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This is more of a value add as well as an open ended discussion for you guys given my recent thread about Dan Bilzerian.
The past weekend, I went out with a guy I recently made friends with in a group sport I was playing and we both ended up taking a couple girls home and crashing at his place. Both of us got laid and he had a roommate that was not in town, it was one of the more epic nights of my life but just that feeling was great. A good wingman along with high quality friends in general is one of the most valuable assets you can have in your journey.
I have found over the years that most guys will actually drag you down from your goals of getting with lots of different women whether it is out of some moral compass of their own or usually envy. Most of the times in trying to make good friends, you'll actually make low quality friends that won't add any value in your life. If you aren't careful, some guys out there might even try to ruin you for living this kind of a life.
So it is like finding a diamond in the rough but here are some methods that have worked for me.
1. Competitive sports, find guys who are single and try to get a gage on them.
Chase has articles on it but if they are not whining about politics and women, then it is safe to ask them out for a drink. The wingman I had asked me out for drinks a few weeks ago and that led to the success of the weekend. With enough experience, you almost start to get an idea of what kinds of guys are good at the game or at least willing to try versus what kinds of guys it can be toxic to have a friendship with.
2. If going the church group route, find what guy feels indifferent about it or isn't trying to fit in too hard.
Church groups are common go to groups for most younger people but they can be very tricky, make the wrong move by picking the wrong person to wing with and you not only get shut out of the group but potentially have people trying to "fix your sinful ways". Most of the times you will know to avoid the guys who are being really cliquish or trying to fight for status, what works here is finding the guy who is just there and kind of a misfit that feels lukewarm about it all. Invite him out for drinks but don't approach any women, instead just talk to him about his thoughts and how he "feels about guys who have sex before marriage".
One of the wingmen I made said he feels that people should do what they want with their lives and not try to infringe on the rights of others, their life, then joked about how he feels the urge to sometimes do that. We winged each other a couple nights but he had to move for a job.
3. Old coworkers.
This is key, not suggested for new coworkers as they have an agenda. Go for old coworkers you became friends with or had that sort of relationship with, it can make for a good connection as now you are not directly competing. Again though, this is risky.
4. Foreigners.
Compared to Americans, foreigners are a lot more lax on sexuality and sleeping around. While American guys are scares shitless of either the metoo movement or the church life, foreigners could care less. I find that foreign guys are more willing to be a good wingman for you compared to their American counterparts for the most part, exceptions always existing.
So far, this is all I have for you guys, I'd love to form my own crew but seems like I have found one solid wingman.
Anymore thoughts welcomed.
The past weekend, I went out with a guy I recently made friends with in a group sport I was playing and we both ended up taking a couple girls home and crashing at his place. Both of us got laid and he had a roommate that was not in town, it was one of the more epic nights of my life but just that feeling was great. A good wingman along with high quality friends in general is one of the most valuable assets you can have in your journey.
I have found over the years that most guys will actually drag you down from your goals of getting with lots of different women whether it is out of some moral compass of their own or usually envy. Most of the times in trying to make good friends, you'll actually make low quality friends that won't add any value in your life. If you aren't careful, some guys out there might even try to ruin you for living this kind of a life.
So it is like finding a diamond in the rough but here are some methods that have worked for me.
1. Competitive sports, find guys who are single and try to get a gage on them.
Chase has articles on it but if they are not whining about politics and women, then it is safe to ask them out for a drink. The wingman I had asked me out for drinks a few weeks ago and that led to the success of the weekend. With enough experience, you almost start to get an idea of what kinds of guys are good at the game or at least willing to try versus what kinds of guys it can be toxic to have a friendship with.
2. If going the church group route, find what guy feels indifferent about it or isn't trying to fit in too hard.
Church groups are common go to groups for most younger people but they can be very tricky, make the wrong move by picking the wrong person to wing with and you not only get shut out of the group but potentially have people trying to "fix your sinful ways". Most of the times you will know to avoid the guys who are being really cliquish or trying to fight for status, what works here is finding the guy who is just there and kind of a misfit that feels lukewarm about it all. Invite him out for drinks but don't approach any women, instead just talk to him about his thoughts and how he "feels about guys who have sex before marriage".
One of the wingmen I made said he feels that people should do what they want with their lives and not try to infringe on the rights of others, their life, then joked about how he feels the urge to sometimes do that. We winged each other a couple nights but he had to move for a job.
3. Old coworkers.
This is key, not suggested for new coworkers as they have an agenda. Go for old coworkers you became friends with or had that sort of relationship with, it can make for a good connection as now you are not directly competing. Again though, this is risky.
4. Foreigners.
Compared to Americans, foreigners are a lot more lax on sexuality and sleeping around. While American guys are scares shitless of either the metoo movement or the church life, foreigners could care less. I find that foreign guys are more willing to be a good wingman for you compared to their American counterparts for the most part, exceptions always existing.
So far, this is all I have for you guys, I'd love to form my own crew but seems like I have found one solid wingman.
Anymore thoughts welcomed.
