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Hey guys,
If youve been following my story, I went out today for coffee with a mutual friend of a conflicted religious girl Ive been talking with. I had initially completely expected this mutual friend to be just that - a friend. Today showed me more.
So I met up with her for coffee and we caught up. I updated her on the situation with the religious girl and some of the other girls Ive been setting up dates with. She gave me some advice and updated me on her situation. But it got late and the Starbucks closed, so I suggested we move to the car. She agreed and hopped in the passenger side
I turned on the heat and we talked some more, showing pictures of girls / guys we've talked about. She brought up how sore her back and body was and how she wanted to get a breast reduction done (we had talked about this before earlier). So (as we had talked about earlier) I suggested I give her a massage. She turned her back towards me and I began massaging her back and shoulders, keeping light but relevant conversation.
As the night progresed, I moved slowly to touching her breasts more. She said the massages felt great and I eventually asked her to move to the back of the car because it hurt my back to turn so much. She did gladly and I joined her a bit later after getting my things organized. I continued my massage and kept the conversation going. I increasily massaged more and more of her breasts (with no resistance) before she leaned back into me and I was now only fully massaging her breasts. She closed her eyes and said it felt amazing.
We continued this a couple minutes, me occasionally massaging her arms or upper back or shoulders, before the conversation went silent and we just enjoyed being with each other.
She then suddenly sat up, turned and began making out with me. I made out back with her with the same intensity and she tried to swing her leg over me, strattling my right thigh. I quickly undid my belt and pulled my dick out, which she began stroking feriously while kissing me. I pressed my thigh into her pussy and she began grinding into it hard. After a bit of this, she stopped and said "wait we shouldnt do this" and unstrattled my leg and sat back into me. I just went back to lightly massaging her body, talking a bit with her, my dick still out
After a bit more talking and touching, she went back to making out with me and now fully strateled me. I grabbed her firm butt with both hands and she grinded hard against my dick me pulling her into me. I then brought up reminding her that I had a condom, but I knew she had made the decision to not have sex before marriage and remain "pure" (thanks church!). So I wasnt suprized when she waved it off and said no (she is a virgin). So we continued making out and grinding a bit before she got off and sat back into me to relax.
We interlocked fingers and I lightly kept touching her skin. Now came the difficult part.
The Difficult Part
Questions now changed to:
- how do I see her
- what to expect moving forward (I said I enjoy spending time with you in the moment and would like to keep it like we have it for now. She agreed)
- issue with it not being a relationship (I brought up why it had to be labeled if we were doing the same things. She agreed but said it still bugged her)
- issue that Im dating multiple girls (shed be just one of the many) Said I focus and am fully present with the girl I am with. I let her know there are specific things about her that I like that the other girls dont have - I also reminded her that shes the first of those girls that Ive done this with and that I still havent gone out with most of those girls yet. She said but the other girls also have things she doesnt. And that but I like the religious girl.
- issue that her friend (the religious girl) would eventually find out - she doesnt want to be a bad friend and was saying that if it was her - shed feel bad
- afraid that the other girls will give me what she wont (sex) and that I'll leave. I made commitment comments like I need chemistry with a girl before Im sexual and that I wouldnt leave afterwards and that I like the girl to not leave too. I also reminded her that im there with her now. She agreed but still worried about it.
- worried that she'd grow to have too strong of feelings for me if we kept doing this. I suggested we do this again but space it out. She said even if we did her feelings would still grow for me. We then circled back around to the before topics.
I summarized my main points again to her, which she logically agreed to. But I couldnt get her emotions and fears to align fully. I couldnt help her to feel OK having sex or being sexual with me.
She also tried to friendzone me, saying we shouldnt be intimate and meet only in public. I actively fought against these frame attempts.
So after kissing again and getting an angry call from my mom asking where I was, we split ways. I believe we plan to talk more about it later.
Overall, it was a nice night. We might very well never have it again but thats ok with me - it was a bonus to what I originally was expecting anyways.
What are your guys' thoughts, especially on her concerns and resistance? Is there a way I can address her emotional argument to help her feel its OK to be sexual with me? (really a fwb relationship)
Thanks!
NBW
If youve been following my story, I went out today for coffee with a mutual friend of a conflicted religious girl Ive been talking with. I had initially completely expected this mutual friend to be just that - a friend. Today showed me more.
So I met up with her for coffee and we caught up. I updated her on the situation with the religious girl and some of the other girls Ive been setting up dates with. She gave me some advice and updated me on her situation. But it got late and the Starbucks closed, so I suggested we move to the car. She agreed and hopped in the passenger side
I turned on the heat and we talked some more, showing pictures of girls / guys we've talked about. She brought up how sore her back and body was and how she wanted to get a breast reduction done (we had talked about this before earlier). So (as we had talked about earlier) I suggested I give her a massage. She turned her back towards me and I began massaging her back and shoulders, keeping light but relevant conversation.
As the night progresed, I moved slowly to touching her breasts more. She said the massages felt great and I eventually asked her to move to the back of the car because it hurt my back to turn so much. She did gladly and I joined her a bit later after getting my things organized. I continued my massage and kept the conversation going. I increasily massaged more and more of her breasts (with no resistance) before she leaned back into me and I was now only fully massaging her breasts. She closed her eyes and said it felt amazing.
We continued this a couple minutes, me occasionally massaging her arms or upper back or shoulders, before the conversation went silent and we just enjoyed being with each other.
She then suddenly sat up, turned and began making out with me. I made out back with her with the same intensity and she tried to swing her leg over me, strattling my right thigh. I quickly undid my belt and pulled my dick out, which she began stroking feriously while kissing me. I pressed my thigh into her pussy and she began grinding into it hard. After a bit of this, she stopped and said "wait we shouldnt do this" and unstrattled my leg and sat back into me. I just went back to lightly massaging her body, talking a bit with her, my dick still out
After a bit more talking and touching, she went back to making out with me and now fully strateled me. I grabbed her firm butt with both hands and she grinded hard against my dick me pulling her into me. I then brought up reminding her that I had a condom, but I knew she had made the decision to not have sex before marriage and remain "pure" (thanks church!). So I wasnt suprized when she waved it off and said no (she is a virgin). So we continued making out and grinding a bit before she got off and sat back into me to relax.
We interlocked fingers and I lightly kept touching her skin. Now came the difficult part.
The Difficult Part
Questions now changed to:
- how do I see her
- what to expect moving forward (I said I enjoy spending time with you in the moment and would like to keep it like we have it for now. She agreed)
- issue with it not being a relationship (I brought up why it had to be labeled if we were doing the same things. She agreed but said it still bugged her)
- issue that Im dating multiple girls (shed be just one of the many) Said I focus and am fully present with the girl I am with. I let her know there are specific things about her that I like that the other girls dont have - I also reminded her that shes the first of those girls that Ive done this with and that I still havent gone out with most of those girls yet. She said but the other girls also have things she doesnt. And that but I like the religious girl.
- issue that her friend (the religious girl) would eventually find out - she doesnt want to be a bad friend and was saying that if it was her - shed feel bad
- afraid that the other girls will give me what she wont (sex) and that I'll leave. I made commitment comments like I need chemistry with a girl before Im sexual and that I wouldnt leave afterwards and that I like the girl to not leave too. I also reminded her that im there with her now. She agreed but still worried about it.
- worried that she'd grow to have too strong of feelings for me if we kept doing this. I suggested we do this again but space it out. She said even if we did her feelings would still grow for me. We then circled back around to the before topics.
I summarized my main points again to her, which she logically agreed to. But I couldnt get her emotions and fears to align fully. I couldnt help her to feel OK having sex or being sexual with me.
She also tried to friendzone me, saying we shouldnt be intimate and meet only in public. I actively fought against these frame attempts.
So after kissing again and getting an angry call from my mom asking where I was, we split ways. I believe we plan to talk more about it later.
Overall, it was a nice night. We might very well never have it again but thats ok with me - it was a bonus to what I originally was expecting anyways.
What are your guys' thoughts, especially on her concerns and resistance? Is there a way I can address her emotional argument to help her feel its OK to be sexual with me? (really a fwb relationship)
Thanks!
NBW
