"Metrics" to know that we got that part of game good enough?

[Witcher]

Hello everyone,

In his article: Fixing a poor tactical focus Chase explain that often we can be focusing on improving the wrong thing. Like getting better at conversation when this later is okay and that we should be getting better at closing or flirting etc...

Example:

One of the things I used to see a lot in my coaching days was guys who would come in and say, “My problem is X. My X is just not very good.” For instance, a guy might say he wasn’t that good at conversation: “My conversation just isn’t interesting enough to women.”
And I’d listen to him talk to a girl, and his conversation would be absolutely fine.

And I’d tell him as much – and then I’d tell him what he was doing wrong. My feedback might be: “Your conversation is fine. Girls like you and respond to you. They enjoy talking to you. Your problem is you stand too far away and you get zero investment from them. You just leave them hanging out in space. Next time, stand closer, ask her for some investment, and move her after five minutes or so.”

Then the guy’s very next conversation, he’d immediately break past his earlier plateau and he’d be off sitting with the girl.
That’s poor tactical focus, fixed. Here’s poor Joe, working his tail off trying to fix what he saw as subpar conversational skills, when this wasn’t the issue at all. The real issue was something different. Yet so long as he stayed fixed on trying to better his conversation, he was never going to crack the issue – because the conversation wasn’t the issue.

However, not so much information is given about "how to know" that we have this part of the game good enough or okay. So I would like to have your opinions here about any good "metrics" that indicate that we have that part Okay enough. Especially for the communication aspects of the game that can be very nuanced like Deep-diving, Flirting, Banter, Frame control etc..

Looking for your feedbacks
Thank's

 

[JacobPalmer]

Tough to say and put metrics on that stuff. You kindof just have to see where you feel the convo/interaction went wrong, and then adjust. But at the end of the day it's going to be a bit binary: either you win (get a number, date, lay) or you don't. So at each stage you can judge how things went. Like, say you got her number and she was excited, and you go out on a date but afterwards she isn't into it, then obviously you did something on the date to turn her off. So I'd set checkpoints and evaluate the in between processes to figure out what's working and what isn't.

 

[naturalmikey]

go out with someone who has good game and they can tell you what you're doing right or wrong. finding someone with good game isn't exactly easy nowadays though.