What's new

Missing core social nuance as Chase mentioned, need help!

Indian Race Troll (IRT)

Rookie
Rookie
Joined
Jan 5, 2014
Messages
3,353
So I am a virgin in my 20s and Chase mentioned some core social nuances guys might be missing and they may do things like talk too fast or just stare at girls like robots, what are other ones you guys can list out? I want to work on those!
 

Man-O

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Dec 16, 2014
Messages
182
Understandble. Before mentioning what's good I'd clarify the importance of being yourself, the you that has accumulated 20 years of different experiences. Do not try to discard that because you think it will make you more interesting for girls, it won't. Stand for who you are and keep refining your calibration when using your social skills.

And here they come, the pitfalls. It has nothing really to do with your specific personality when girls or guys don't like you but more how you calibrate with them, you may look awkward, you don't accept them or you say a sentence a bit wrong, or you simply don't trust yourself enough to say out loud what you mean and with confidence and this has nothing to do with your own personality but more in how your personality connects with others'. So unless you eat children for breakfast your own background should hardly mean anything when having fun with people, it's all in the connection between you, which needs calibration depending on situations.

My recomendations are to get confidence in what you are. Improve what you already like and want to do and skip the things you don't like, to improve your confidence further. With confidence you'll be more relaxed when socializing, and people feel that vibe.
When in conversations try to say what's on your mind at times. You may burn your fingers but without failures there won't be success. Later on you'll learn you can say almost anything if you're good at calibration (is the person in a bad/good mood, has it been built up? do you do it with a smile etc.).

Biggest factor is to keep going even if you have a bad day and felt it went shit. Go home and work on what went right and wrong and be prepared for the next day. Those who can see their failures as success are those who improve the best. Remember to have fun with it as well and don't expect to be an expert within a year if seduction is a rare thing in one's life. Hope it helps.
 

ray_zorse

Modern Human
Modern Human
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
1,982
Have you read Chase's ebook? There's a really good chapter / section on fundamentals, which lists things you should be working on, such as:
- having good posture
- not leaning in to conversations
- not qualifying yourself
- least effort in conversations
et cetera... I'd also recommend you skim through the article how not to be the creepy guy if that's a specific concern that you have. For that matter what it really boils down to is any specific concerns that you have -- there's not really a "one size fits all" answer to your question. Is there anything you think you are doing that might be putting people off, or that you should be working on? Field reports are very useful for nutting that out.
Ray
 

Edd--19

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Nov 11, 2013
Messages
169
Damn it Ray, got here just before me ;) I'll add onto your wise words with this.

I dug up this article a while back, it's not fundamental based but more social calibration based. It's very handy as it'll help you to recognise what you're doing during the conversation. A bit of a lost gem I'd say.

Just tackle a couple of things at a time, the brain can only count 4 numbers (1, 2, 3 and many).
 
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

ray_zorse

Modern Human
Modern Human
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
1,982
Great article, the link didn't work for me but threw up enough clues to take me here.
Ray
 
Top