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[Hey, it's been a long time since I've posted a report or anything on the boards. I used to post field reports more often when I first started trying to actively get better but i got lazy and stopped posting. Well time to change and start posting more regularly. And so to start us of is this night out where LMR gets the better of me. Enjoy and leave your thoughts.]

Just to tell you a little about myself, I'm 19 and a student at university 2nd year. I started getting serious about getting good with girls at around 16 but because i went to a boys school and definitely wasn't with the cool kids i found it very hard to meet up with girls and get comfortable with them. So I actually started improving my skill set with women at the start of University in 2014. It's been around a year and a half now and i'm can say with confidence I've come a long, long way. So this report is more of an introduction to me and my game as well as just a field report

So before i head out to the club i pre-drink with my friends. I much prefer going to a flat party or even just a bar or pub for pre-drinks because you're meeting new people and building social momentum. Plus you can always grab a cheeky number for a later date. But for economical reasons it was just pres with the boys.

I'm not a fan of getting overly drunk at clubs or bars anymore. It just screws with my judgment when with girls and drunk me is definitely not a sexy me. Plus i only need a few drinks just to get a little buzzed and feel a little looser but i've been out sober and alone and that's just as good, sometimes better.

So I arrive at the club at 1:30 AM. It's a little late I know but you don't need to spend 3 hours in a club to have a good time or pick up women. I'm dressed well, wearing dark blue skinny jeans, a dark green and blue checkered shirt with the sleeves rolled up, black Chelsea boots and to make myself stand out that extra mile; a black low cut waistcoat/vest. Needless to say this outfit get's me a lot of attention.

Once in the club I like to get a drink straight away, because you get to see whose actually there without standing aimlessly and awkwardly in the club, plus you never know who you'll meet at the bar. I make my way to the bar in a chiller area of the club that is more a bar/pub style (compared to the loud dark nightclub area). At the bar there is a cutie with a banging body, let's call her Lana.

Now as for my approaches I usually am quite an opportunistic approacher. If she's near I always find a way to strike up a natural conversation smoothly. My openers are really contextual so i don't have a standard canned approach to share, they range from a simple hi to something like playfully mimicking her body language across the room and then motioning her over.

Anyway i can't remember what exactly i said to her but once we had our drinks in hand I motioned her to follow me away from the bar. We continued to chat. She had a a guy friend with her but it was clear that they weren't together. Now standing and talking are good but one thing i've learnt over time is that moving girls around the venue and sitting with them is much better. I notice that there are some empty seats at the sofas and in spirit of moving things forward I tell the pair of them to grab a seat with me. Lana seats next to me without any prompting and the guy sit's opposite her with a girl he presumably knows beforehand (maybe they were together, either way that makes my job of getting to know Lana easier).

I start deep diving about her course and what she does and why she does it? She asks about me and I tell her enough to go on but not so much that i'm talking her ear. After a little getting to know each she offers to play pool. I agree as there is a pool bar on the floor above us. Her guy friend joins us. I use this time to diffuse some tension that i created earlier. I start talking to both Lana and the guy. Its a short game because the pool bar is closing soon but it ends me winning (I have a pool table back home and used to play a lot of it back home but they didn't know that haha ;)

We leave the bar to go for a smoke. The guy friend girl friend joins us and we discuss an after party. Lana and I are keen for one and she seem's to arrange it. She say's that if not we can always go back to her flat and drink some wine. Brilliant i think. So I tell her we'll head to hers first and if any parties pop up we'll go there.

We get to the taxi rank and take one to hers. It's only a 5-10 minute drive and we arrive there. It seems that she is the only one in the flat at the time. We drink some wine and talk a little more. Now here's where i run into problems. During our interaction in the club i didn't use a lot of touch. So going from no touching to grabbing her may have been too big of a jump (i learnt that lesson on a previous date with another girl). Instead I tell we'll watch a film and wait. We put the film on and lie next to each other. I take this as an opportunity to start escalating. At first my hand is on her side. I then start moving hand around her body, side, stomach, legs and glide over her bum. She begins breathing heavier.

After a little teasing with my hand i start kissing her neck and cheek and then pull her face towards me and then kiss her lips. The escalation continues as i unbutton her jeans and move my hand down into her panties. She offers up no resistance but when i try to pull her body to face mine (where in spooning position) she says that's drunk. It doesn't sound like a no but because the escalation wasn't fully mutual (despite the fact that i know she was enjoying it) i stop in fear of taking advantage.

We end up just sleeping together. In the morning i stayed there for a bit and we watch a little TV as she cuddled into me but then I decided to leave. I couldn't find a way to start escalating again plus i didn't want to overstay. I grab her number and leave. And that's that.


So my questions are:
1. Should i have continued and taken that as token resistance or plausible deniability?
2. Should I have tried again in the morning?
3. Should I text her for a date or something (although i know the rule, failed escalation is pretty much a seduction killer)?
 

JPWorld

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Rookie,

Good job on getting back to hers and escalating! :D

But think about this for a sec. You met this girl, deep dived her a bit, you then went back to her place.

She wants you. She knows what's happening, more than you can possibly imagine.

Rookie said:
. Now here's where i run into problems. During our interaction in the club i didn't use a lot of touch. So going from no touching to grabbing her may have been too big of a jump

When I first read this bit I was thinking 'Hmmm, I can see where you're coming from, but totally possible." But then it seemed to work out okay with the film, building it up a bit.

Rookie said:
After a little teasing with my hand i start kissing her neck and cheek and then pull her face towards me and then kiss her lips. The escalation continues as i unbutton her jeans and move my hand down into her panties.

Don't know how quick the time frame was here, but maybe escalating a bit too quick (never thought I'd say that). Get her really into the kissing and you on her neck/upper chest, then get her out of the spoon position THEN undo her jeans.

If not, any excuse to get her to turn to face you "Hey."
"What?"
"Turn round"
"Why?"
"I wanna see your smile"

When she's facing you, roll her on top of you, put hand over her bum then finger her from behind (in the pussy, just to clarify)

The biggest thing you can do is ramp up then escalation, then just chill and chat - make her more comfortable- then ramp it up again.

Rinse. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat.

Rookie said:
she says that's drunk. It doesn't sound like a no but because the escalation wasn't fully mutual (despite the fact that i know she was enjoying it) i stop in fear of taking advantage.

Best/weirdest resistance I've ever heard haha. If not then stop and just say "Okay, let's cuddle a bit then" and get her to turn into you and face you, then start again.

I mean hey, the escalation doesn't have to be super serious, you can lift her top up and raspberry on her stomach or something, then kiss your way down. Try multiple different ways that make it fun and comfortable.

Rookie said:
1. Should i have continued and taken that as token resistance or plausible deniability?

Yes. With the chilling then escalating process

Rookie said:
2. Should I have tried again in the morning?

Shouldn't have needed to as should've had laid her the night before, to be honest!

You could have done depending on the vibe, if it was fun and you were both smiling and flirting hard, maybe tickling each other a bit, then escalation would have been obvious and easy, but if not, probably wouldn't have worked as you missed the window the night before.

Rookie said:
3. Should I text her for a date or something (although i know the rule, failed escalation is pretty much a seduction killer)?

Meh. You can try. An option could be going out for drinks and feel as if starting fresh, keep things light-hearted and fun, lay her same night.
Or invite her over for a dinner/movie night but more likely to get a no, I'm not sure.

I hope this wasn't too harsh mate haha but hopefully, you've learnt a bit from it!

Cheers

- JP
 

mb1

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Sounds like she was fully down and set up her own plausible deniability. Girls are most often going to want to shift that blame, plus feel like she is being taken (submissive). It's tough because a drunk frame does frame it as you taking advantage of that. Maybe you could have said that you were too and therefore unable to control yourself due to her sexiness, etc. Maybe even comment on how it lets you do what's natural without paying mind to social conditioning. Then you're two against the world and she feels OK shifting blame on her drunken state and you being the aggressor. This sounds more like ASD then LMR (the latter of which is more of a test of your neediness).
 

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Hey,

Thanks for the replies, I meant to get back sooner.

Yeah I agree with you JPWorld, should have escalated, then chilled, then escalated again instead of just stopping at that. I'm sure she would've been happy that sex happened.
And I totally agree with you mb1. She framed the situation to give her plausible deniability and instead of trying to re-frame it I accepted it and did nothing.

Thanks for the advice, will put it to good use.
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