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Mom of the group - girls on the fence

barneystin

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Been getting bored of night game and going out just for sarging but i went out in the city yesterday and landed at my favorite spot. A big reason im getting bored might be because I keep going to the same place lol but everywhere else is either too many people, not enjoyable or most likely both.

For my outfit, I'm wearing a knitted henley, gold chain (that gets me a lot of compliments), bracelet, rings, dress pants and loafers. I'm trying to go less baggy for my tops these days since i have a decent physique and want to show that.

I walk into the club at like 12:30am, say hey and chat to the bouncers who are friends of mine and go in. It's obviously not peak time (it's a thursday night) but there's still a decent amount of people in the club. I don't see any girls that catch my eye but I walk around, check out the venue, subtlely looking for eye contact, and feeling the music. I've been reading a lot of A2DAmir's field reports from mASF, I like how he uses CF (cocky, funny) and chase framing so i wanted to experiment with that. Mind you, before getting here, i was at a house party with some friends where I was pretty drunk and i was just coming down so my state was crashing with it. But nevertheless, i wanted to get some XP.

On one of my trips around the venue, i post up by the bar where I notice this brown girl giving me eye contact. She's dancing with her friends - 1 girl and 3 guys. Shit. I don't think i have the energy to be pretty social but i'll hang around and see what happens.

She gave me eye contact again multiple times so I can tell she was attracted at least but she's in the middle of her friends dance circle. I decide not to open the group and talk to her first then talk to the group if i think it's a promising set.

I make my way subtlely to the side of the group and open her. She's standing on a raised platform - about 1.5-2ft so it's not the best look but the IOIs were pretty strong and i was intrigued. I said "hey, your hair looks great!" (she had curly hair which i love)

She responded quickly (like she was waiting for me to say something) "thank you! but i have a boyfriend. Let me show you what he looks like" then excitedly shows me her wallpaper with her and her "boyfriend". Touche. The boyfriend looks a bit like me so I guess she has a type.

I handled the boyfriend objection pretty poorly. I said some dumb shit like "ah, and you really like him?" to which she responded yes. I typically just automatically next girls when they bring up a boyfriend but i'm training myself to not have that knee-jerk response at least. I left and went to a different part of the club

After about an hour or so, as I was contemplating leaving, a girl walked in - curly hair brunette, about 5'7-5'8, thick ass (you can tell she goes to the gym) and nice tits (hard to find a girl who has both in my experience), a true HB9 for sure. After admiring her for a split second, I realized i had approached her and gotten her number the previous week. She hearted when i texted my name but didn't respond to my text the next morning.

She saw me and walked over smiling. I said something like "fancy seeing you here again" to which she smiled and we chatted for a bit (wish i could remember our convo but i cant't). She fits my type for sure but is very uncompliant even though she's willing to chat and even dance for a bit. You will see how this looks pretty soon.

She starts complaining about how it's time for them to go home (which is reasonable since it was almost 3am and they live 30 minutes away). I remind her that she was saying the same thing the last time we met and I tell her she won't ruin the fun for her friends tonight. I take her hand, put it on my shoulder and we dance a bit. She says she has to go to the bathroom to find her friend so we split and i go up the mini stairs to a raised section of the club close to the bathrooms. When she comes out of the bathroom, she joins her group of friends (about 7 girls, 1 guy) who are right by me. I re-opened her (-1 on my part but she wasn't going to re-open me so i had no choice) and tried to do some chase framing:

Me: "wow, you really can't get enough of me, you came to look for me already" ( she did walk from the bathroom to where i was hanging but not to me lol)
Me: "take it easy okay, my last girl was pretty clingy so i dont like that. a good relationship takes time, okay? im a bit of an avoidant" (i was just talking out my ass at this point)
Her, laughing: "avoidant huh, im sure ive got u beat. a good relationship does take time and a lot of chasing. do you like to chase?" (she was insinuating that she gets chased a lot - not surprised)
Me (actually mildly offended): "who tf do you think i am? you're the one who can't stay away from me"
Her, laughing: "i think you're just projecting here"
Me: "I don't know what you're talking about"

(This was the main gist of the conversation, i don't remember most of it) Anyway, I get bored of talking over loud music so i grab her hand, put it on my shoulder and we start dancing again. I touch around the back of her waist and her ass. We were making a lot of eye contact here - my only play at this point was just ramp up the sexual tension so that she wants to see me again after tonight. Her friend goes to the bathroom again and she goes with her.

I didn't get the sense that she was into me at all. Like she probably thought i was alright but i was clearly doing all the work so I started getting bored.
I chat with the rest of her friends for a bit and when she comes back, she goes to chatting with another one of her friends. It's a pretty big group so she might genuinely have missed me. After chatting with her friend, i come up behind her and put my hands on her shoulders as if to give her a massage and she turns around and smiles when she sees who it was (it was more of a polite smile than anything). She then starts complaining about how she's been trying to get everyone together so they can all leave and i tease her, calling her the mom of the group. I probably could have qualified her here for looking out for her friends but i was bored/getting pissed off/frustrated. While we were standing, she faced away from me to continue talking to her friend and i was done.

I went back up the stairs to grab my jacket and walked towards the door to leave. On my way to the door, i did see a pretty european girl, HB7, and opened her. We started talking but she couldn't hear me and asked if we wanted to leave the club to talk (this is the type of interest/compliance i like!). We left, sat by another bar's entrance and talked for a while.
The HB9 from inside came out with her big friend group and saw me talking to this new girl (didn't say anything). I ended changing venues with the HB7 and her friends but the HB9 was nowhere to be found.

Is there anything I could have done with the HB9 or was she just not into me. I find myself in a bunch of those situations where girls comply a bit but there's a limit to how much compliance i can get. Like she wouldn't leave with me to go to a quieter part of the venue where she can still see her friends. This girl was pretty tethered to her friends the whole night but it seems like she was just using them as an excuse. How would an advanced seducer tackle this? I usually just get bored/frustrated and move on to another girl. A part of me thinks I can turn these "on the fence girls" around. Game can't only be for girls who are already into you from the start, right?
 
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OldGuy

Cro-Magnon Man
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The brown one with IOIs. I would consider why she is out with some random guys, but has a bf. I would say that this means two things:
  • She wants you to know she is able to get a bf.
  • She would like to get to know you, but for bf not to know about you unless she decides to switch.
 
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