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Moving From Quantity to Quality - Roadblocks

BarryS1

Cro-Magnon Man
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I need more power! I am failing at attracting quality girls. By quality I mean hot + a social network (gives them some secondary traits I’m looking for).

I have been hitting a major roadblock since starting to meet girls via social circle since October. I am in two great locations, a fitness academy and a private university both with the type of attractive girls I don’t see anywhere else.

I read Havilor’s article about someone hitting a roadblock after repeatedly getting results of the same type of girl. That was me around August, I felt like a one-trick pony and got bored! That’s why I started approaching more in social circle settings. Here’s the article:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/...ther-problems-may-stall-your-progress-seducer

My Results:

They dropped, only two phone numbers and one date since October (I took a break in November). I’ve been choking my chicken for a long time haha! Even after revamping my indirect game from the Journeyman guide and creating a new direct routine, it’s still not enough! Looking at my journal, I did 40 targeted approaches (excluding girls I just chatted up), but got the same result - polite dismissals. In fact, the only results I got were from girls I went direct on! All of my interactions are the same when I go indirect:

-situationally approach group of girls
-banter and deep-dive
-screen her
-girl turns to her friend and ignores me

Other than my lose of results, social circle is a lot of fun! I have a couple girls with me every time I go out, so I am never alone when meeting new people. I am never in a bad mood like I used to going out alone during day game. All that’s missing is a hot piece of ass to bang in my car and my life will be complete ;)

I went through a roadblock with MILFs last year, but stuck at it until I created a system that worked! This is just another bump in the road I need to get over.


Anyone else go through this phase? I am trying to figure out how to take it to the next level.
 

Franco

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Barry,

Occasionally you can use females in your social circle as pre-selection for getting hot girls in night venues, but I think approaching attractive women during the daytime (with your fundamentals handled and your game on point) is probably still the best way to get the higher quality ones. And generally, you won't want to be approaching groups of girls as much as you're approaching isolated girls (possibly at a whole foods supermarket or something along those lines). That's where you can give yourself good opportunities to meet attractive women who are more likely to be warm to your approach.

Social circle can be good, but it's a small, restricted pot that you're working with. You can't really guarantee lays from it nor can you guarantee the "hottest" girls from it because they are either (a) already taken or (b) slotted you into a more long-term role where moving things forward sexually starts having more consequences for them that they need to worry about.

I think it's best to really just alternate between the two. If you're out on the weekends with your social circle, then enjoy it and make moves when you see opportunities. If it's the middle of the week and you're just running to Trader Joe's to grab some food, keep your eyes peeled for any hotties who seem to be out and about shopping there and look open to conversation.

Keep all your avenues open. =)

- Franco
 

BarryS1

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Occasionally you can use females in your social circle as pre-selection for getting hot girls in night venues, but I think approaching attractive women during the daytime (with your fundamentals handled and your game on point) is probably still the best way to get the higher quality ones.

I forgot to mention I take the girls to night venues on the college campus like frat parties, dorm socials, and holiday events. I'm in a cool situation because I don't go to the school, but made friends there. The girls find out right away I don't go to the school, but the heat of the night gets them distracted. Yeah, approaching 1-on-1 is the only thing that is getting me results right now.

I think it's best to really just alternate between the two. If you're out on the weekends with your social circle, then enjoy it and make moves when you see opportunities. If it's the middle of the week and you're just running to Trader Joe's to grab some food, keep your eyes peeled for any hotties who seem to be out and about shopping there and look open to conversation.

Yeah, I'll have to do more hummus and cracker runs during the week :p
 
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