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Mystique

Cro-Magnon Man
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I've been approaching girls and up until I last updated my journal, I've been getting blown out by girls left and right. This has never happened to me in my life before so no matter how much I've read and tried to internalise GC's message that getting rejected is not a big deal and pick up is a numbers game, you can imagine how I felt.
Here's how my yesterday went
Before the Approach
I woke and did some meditation. It helps. I walk to the bus stop. In the mornings like this before I arrive school, I don't always have an idea if I'll be in the state that day or if I'll have no social momentum at all. After getting off the first bus and going into the second, I realise there's no cute girl to talk to. Damn! I love bus pick up. As I get to school, I head for the campus shuttle. I check around to see if there's any pretty girl but there's none. I think I need to lower my standards more at least just to build momentum I should talk to any girl around. As long as she doesn't look like a troll. I head for class. After the first class I chill a bit and talk to my friends (guys and girls). I flirt here and there and decide to hit the streets (campus streets, lol). The thing about campus is that there are just so many hot girls everywhere talking, chatting with friends, walking fast, standing, etc. And I get selective in the girls I go talk to or I over think it and she's gone. Instead of "OK I'm interested in that girl. Let me run to catch up with her and say hi". After walking around I sight a girl afar off and standing alone looking around. I took this as a sign of openness to be approached. Boy was I wrong.
First Approach
Me: hello
Her: hi
Me: I saw you from afar and I just had to tell you I really like your shoes. It looks nice on you
Her: what? (looking somewhat distressingly distracted)
Me: I repeat myself (I shouldn't be doing that)
She: Oh thanks
Me: So what's your name
She: I said thank you (she has a really distressed look. she's obviously in a bad mood. Silly me!)
Me: Oh. You look like you're in a bad mood. Bye
I continue walking around and I meet up with a friend of mine. He's a law student. We head to his faculty to get some toast. As I stand waiting for my order, I tell him I'd rather sit. I sit beside a pretty girl. Instead of just saying hi and taking off from there, I begin to over think and guess what. I chickened out. After leaving that place we head to a garden (of sorts, at least that's what it's called - love garden) close to my faculty. A lot of people sit here to chill. My friend says he wants to meet someone and he'll be back. I sit between two girls. I've been trying to read girls and know those open to approach. But so far I think I suck at it coz I decided to talk to the one at my left. The one on the right was playing with her phone with a lively attitude, while the one on my left was just looking around, calmly.
Second Approach
Me: hello
Her: hi
Me: I like your cap (she has a faze cap on)
She: thanks
Me: there's an inscription on it (I try reading it. I had to touch and tip the cap downward to read it)
It's nice (a second of silence)
I'm Mystique what's your name (I extend my hand)
Her: I'm her (she indicates she can't shake me. I now realize she's sick. She keeps on using tissue paper on her nose. She's got a runny nose and possibly cold. I do not give up)
Me: oh. You seem sick
Her: yea
Me: you got catarrh
Her: yes (silence ensues again. Kinda awkward. Henceforth, rapport seems to become forced)
Me: Are you waiting for someone
Her: No I'm waiting for a class (after she answers each question, she waits less than a second and puts her head down, most times looking at her phone)
Me: OK. what time is that
Her: (tells me the time. it's some hours later)
Me: that's still far
Her: nods
Me: what department if I may ask
Her: (tells me her department)
At a point, the girl at my right asks her if she has a pen. She gives her one. Do you guys think that was her seeking my attention. I should have opened the one at my right not left. I try to deep dive her but she doesn't seem hooked and it looks like she's talking to me out of politeness. I can't really say for sure coz she's ill. At a point she asks what I'm doing here and I say waiting for my friend. Was this her sign of telling me to beat it or was she investing in the conversation? I can't say. After another silence, I excuse myself, still sitting, and call my friend. He's already close. As he stands in front of me he gives me a sign that says "have you talked to her". lol. After talking, we decide to leave. I tell her "goodbye and get well soon"
At this point I'm already feeling somewhat discouraged. I go chill with my friends and as I arrived I see one of them cat calling a girl and the rest seem to be into it. "Instead of you to go talk to the girl you're doing this none sense". My friends are surprised at my outburst. lol. I walk around a bit more and sit at an open park to see if I'll sight a girl to talk to. I sight some girls from afar but I had no strength to run up to them. The weather was terribly hot (think African sun). As I sit, a girl walks past me briefly making eye contact with me. I follow up, walking behind her. I hesitate a bit and somehow I knew she could sense that I was behind her. I wait till she crosses the road before I open her
Third Approach
Me: hello
Her: hi
Me: I saw you walk past me and I couldn't just let you go without telling you I really like your dress
Her: what? (she doesn't look really receptive)
Me: You know your dress. The prints are really nice
Her: oh...thanks (all this while she's walking and I walk with her)
Me: so what's your name
Her: my name is her (I was thinking of stretching out my hand and introducing myself but at that moment it would have been awkward. She was walking fast and looking ahead not at me. I didn't even tell her my name. Fuck!)
Me: OK. So tell me, is your name "her" peculiar to a particular state from your region ( no, it's not a dumb question. It's a Nigerian thing)
Her: no it's not
Me: so you don't have specific states that bear that name
Her: no
Me: where are you headed to
Her: I'm headed to blah blah.
Me: So you're going to take a shuttle
Her: yea
Me: I guess we can talk for a few minutes then
Her: we're talking (said in a slightly rude manner. it's obvious that she misread my statement to mean that she should wait so we could talk before she goes. At this point I knew the conversation was going nowhere but I still forge ahead)
Me: yea, that's what I meant. We have some time to talk before you enter a shuttle (some silence ensues. Kinda awkward for me. In front of us already is the shuttle queue) I bid her goodbye. I walk back for the next class and after that I'm pretty much exhausted. I still decide to walk rather than taking a shuttle so I could talk to some girls. Alas! It was to no avail.
Lessons Learnt
1. I need to stop over thinking (or even thinking) whether to approach a girl or not. Or how to approach her. It should be, I see a cute girl and immediately I walk towards her and open
2. I shouldn't take rejections to heart. Gotta grow a tough skin
3. I need to be more comfortable in my skin
4. I need to approach earlier into the day. The longer it takes, the harder it becomes.
What do you guys think? I need your feedbacks.
PS: you can check out my journal: Memoirs of Mystique
 

Smurf

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey dude, good shit getting out there!

From what I can judge there must be a few things going awry with your approach.

Firstly, I'd take a guess at your voice. It seems like they can't hear what you're saying and that's why they're asking you to repeat themselves. Try projecting your voice in the morning in the bathroom or something. Gradually get it louder and louder. What I go for is a loud enough voice, but not loud enough to scare them. I usually go for a "hey", but the end of it trails off. I find that works better because it frightens them less and slows things down. "Heyy.." Then I usually wait until I have their attention to deliver my opener. I find I want them looking at me so their focus is on me and what I'm saying to them.

Second, if you're gonna go direct, do it right after you open. I'm not that great at in-direct so I can't be of much help there. I find it much easier to go direct because conversation can flow easily that way without her wondering what exactly you want from her.

If you haven't already, slow down your opener. Make it seem as if you're in no hurry to get out what you have to say. If she's walking, I'd say get slightly in front of her so you're not "following" her.

Get that first approach out of the way ASAP! Makes the rest soo easy. And you're right, don't over think it, just approach. Even if it's just hi and you're gone, just do it. Gets you in the habit of opening. One step at a time.

Jake.
 

normajean106

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Yeah I have an RSD video for this. I can't post now but if I forget, remind me to post it later.
 

normajean106

Space Monkey
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https://youtu.be/HGEO6ig8WsM?t=231
I am a HUGE believer in non-verbal game over verbal game. It isn't popular to say this here on GC, but having the wittiest or most in-depths conversation with a girl doesn't necessarily mean you get to take her home. You can still say all the right stuff and not get the girl, and yet say all the wrong stuff and end up making out with her at your place. This clip I posted shows that too.

So, you seem like a pretty assertive guy, but in your interactions with those girls it seemed like you came off as a bit of a shy beta.

My advice: Polarize.

I think because you are concerned with reactions from girls, you probably tend to overthink what you're trying to communicate, and then you start to worry about saying the wrong thing.

As a result, you're vibe/non-verbals might not be where you want it, and you're inadvertently getting auto-rejected.

That's my guess, and if it is correct, then my advice is to polarize. All day, every day, just polarize whenever you can to teach yourself not to worry about reactions.

See an old fart walking by? Blare the loudest metal, punk, rock, rap, or whatever music you got to wake his a** up. Driving by a police station? Stick that middle finger up and tell 'em to shove it. (And yes, I've done these things before in case anyone is wondering.)

Eventually you're just going to get used to it and your vibe will be much more captivating, mysterious, and powerful. When you polarize, you'll be able to do anything naturally on command as well (in terms of pick up).
 

Mystique

Cro-Magnon Man
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Thanks for the tip Normajean. Since writing that post up till now, I've made some improvement in that department. Last Friday I even got approached on two occasions by a girl on the queue and two girls during an event. I'd say the number one thing I need to take care of is moving into school. It should be sorted out this week. And yes, polarizing sounds like fun and should be very much useful. I'll try that one out, soon enough.
 

normajean106

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Mystique said:
Thanks for the tip Normajean. Since writing that post up till now, I've made some improvement in that department. Last Friday I even got approached on two occasions by a girl on the queue and two girls during an event.

Nice! Now that's what I like to hear bro. Keep it up!
 

adi13

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I'm not that advanced in seduction but I can tell you my taught about your approaches:
- First will be body language, which you can't show here, but you need to do it well
- You created an interview. Too many questions; one after the other. Try to remove questions as much as you can. From a few weeks now I got into this pattern again and I get no numbers, but I'm working on it :).
- The third girls you approached, you didn't stopped her. Every time I approach a girl from a side it doesn't work, you need to have eye contact. I've learned this the hard way, but even know, sometimes I mess it up. So always get in front of her, even if she is in a rush and stop her. Remember...eye contact. Plus if you walk with her you can't see her body language, and she can't see yours. Yes, after you discussed a little you can go ahead and walk with her.

Hope it helps
 

Mystique

Cro-Magnon Man
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Got it adi13.
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake
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