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Saturday
I planned for this outing to be from 130-530pm. I had a date (from Cold approach the previous Sunday) 6pm
The location
Imagine 2 adjacent stations on a subway line
I park my car a distance away from the first subway station (this was my date location with my date logistics)
I take the subway to the 2nd subway station (outside of which is a bloody fantastic daygame location as I have discovered today)
The daygame location series of a very wide stretch of public benches and smoking area outside malls, connected with 2 taxi stands, where there are tons of STATIONARY girls that is good for beginners to learn
The outing starts from when I get out of my car
The sequence of events of the outing
Social momentum interaction(Will abbreviate to SMI) 1
I pass a construction site and I run into one of the project managers and his employee. Compliment his hairstyle and have some fun chatting with them for 2-3 mins.
Time check 140pm
Approach 1 and insta-date
Here I thought that I was just going to simply talk to this olive-brown skin girl for social momentum but for some reason she did seem to be attracted to me so
I opened by genuinely complimenting her style while we were waiting for the subway. It turns out that we are also getting out at the same stop 1 subway station away
We have a conversation and speak quietly because I don't want to attract to much attention to us. She's feeling really nervous throughout the train ride and I'm getting some feeling that she feels that I am more high value than her
She's a domestic helper from Indonesia and she seemed rather insecure about it when I asked her
When we get out of the train, I motion her to come to chat with me at a corner and she just shakes her head and walks in the opposite direction. I hesitate to chase her and look away and 5 seconds later, she blends into the crowd and I cant see her anymore
Then a miracle happens
Since I also have to get out of the station and tap out using my subway card, I go to the tapout point and then to my left I see her walking in the same direction as me
I wave to her again and reopen her. This time I persist harder and more confidently to walk 10-20 metres into a corner where it's more comfortable to have a chat and it took a fair bit of being sure of myself to pull it off and I successfully did it
We chat and I ask her out to meet me the next week and I number close
I had to persist a reasonable amount before I got her to say some sort of a yes to a date. She was quite unsure about her schedule
Approach 2 and 20 min long conversation
I get out of the subway station to the long stretch of public benches and I approach this Filipina domestic helper who's sitting down. Once again, I initially planned this to be just to build social momentum
but I sensed she was attracted to me so I turned up the intent and asked her out
She's quite fun to talk to and we talk for about 20 mins
I persisted about 2-3 time to get her to say yes to meeting me again. Though she was quite unsure about her schedule.
Then I number close and walk away into the mall because I lied that I was going to meet my friend in the mall (this daygame walking route involves going into the malls as minimally as possible)
Time check 230pm
Approach 3 and quick number close
Once again I thought I would just build social momentum by talking to this next girl but when I start talking to her I felt the same nervous shiver of attraction (I am quite sexy in terms of appearance) so I turn this into an approach
This happened on the opposite end of the mall where I exited the mall onto one of the taxi stands described at the beginning of this field report where there are always quite attractive and stationary girls
I decided to talk to this girl for fun because she had this bag slung over her left shoulder with what looked like archery arrows sticking out of it
So it turns out she does archery and I use that to have a conversation and I can sort of tell that she's waiting for a hired car to pick her up so I decide to quickly ask her out and get her number and it actually successfully happens
So that's my 3rd number in a row
At this stage I'm quite shocked because the most numbers that I have gotten in a single outing before is 3. Today I got 3 numbers from my first 3 approaches ONLY. After the first 3 approaches, I manage to get another 2 numbers. Writing this field report now I will acknowledge that there may have been quite a bit of luck involved
This was probably due to the fact that all 3 of these girls were stationary, which is a perk this new great daygame location I discovered
I decide to cross the main road using the underground crossing to scout the smoking areas on the opposite side of the main road as daygame locations
TIme check 245pm
I decide to go talk to 2-3 more people to build social momentum.
SMI 2
I speak to this supervisor for a Japanese Supermarket who is standing outside the supermarket that he is supervising located in the underground crossing that I was using to cross the main road
I speak to him for about 10 minutes
Time check 3 p.m.
I spend a little bit of time sending "Hi (name), this is Y... Save my number." To the 3 girls that I just got numbers from.
I cross the main road
SMI 3
I speak to this dude at the smoking point across the main road and it was quite a boring conversation. I say to myself, "no worries"
Building social momentum and making friends JUST LIKE pickup is a numbers game so I just hurry up and go and find more people to talk to
SMI 4, 5, 6
I speak to 3 different people for the purposes of building social momentum. There is this old lady who refused to tell me what language she spoke, though she was able to understand what I was saying. She ignores me.
There was this fat and pretty stuck up Filipino guy with interesting yellow shoes who ignores me as well
There is this Indian guy who I do manage to get into a cool 1-2 min conversation about how even in an English-language dominated society, Indian people are rarely given English names.
I feel some anxiety coming back from getting ignored so I tell myself to just chill out and further test out my new daygame route which I have so far found as quite a cool daygame location/timing
SMI 7
I walk to a bus stop on the opposite side of the main road from the stretch of public benches and I speak to this guy for 3-4 minutes about his job where he has to wear a suit in a bloody hot car park for 7 hours a day
I show genuine interest in what he does and ask him about his job and say may I'll apply for it
Time check 3:30pm
SMI 8
I speak to a different Filipino dude who was waiting for his wife for about 1-2 minutes and he was pretty friendly with me though we had quite a monotonous conversation
I decide to start approaching for real but first go to the bathroom in one of the malls to chill out
Approach 4
I walk towards the entrance to the underground crossing to cross back to the side of the street with the long stretch of public benches
As I am entering the underground crossing, I see a girl ahead of me who is also entering the underground crossing who I like the look of
When in the underground crossing, I walk fast up to her and attempt to side stop her using the arm tap.
She stop for 1 second only, looks at me, gives me look that says she can sort of tell what I'm doing and just waves her hand and gives a facial expression that says "no"
Approach 5
The underground crossing opens up into this wide underground area next to the subway tapout where there are many pillars and walls to lean on where there are tons of people just waiting around for their friends before meeting up
I see another girl I like who is wearing a hat and is very engrossed in her phone. I move near her and she doesn't notice me.
I tap her on the shoulder and she, appearing to be in a bad mood, lightly snaps "What do you want?" and moves away to lean on a different pillar.
Here I don't persist either
Approach 6
I exit the underground subway station onto the long stretch of public benches and I see a girl sitting alone and I do the hover and approach. I ask what language she uses and the once she realises I'm hitting on her she moves away to sit on a different bench
I walk away to spot about 20-30 metres away from where I initially approached her but still within her field of vision and let the interaction cool for a minute and give her space
Then I walk another 30 metres towards the bench that she moved to and persist to open her again with "If this is making you uncomfortable, I can just go do my own thing, I'm waiting for my friend"
I notice from her body language that she's no longer defensive towards me and I managed to defuse most discomfort but she still does not say anything so I ask
"Do you have a boyfriend?" She says in quite a dry deadpan direct tone "I'm already married". We wave each other off in a friendly manner
Approach 7
I see this cute, probably married, Indian girl walking and I run up to her and wave stop her. She stops but then I suppose my opener is not great or whatever and she starts walking again.
I decide to persist and walk up to her a second time and do the arm tap and I ask her a question with some genuine interest and confidence and say that I'm serious about talking to her
She just refuses to invest and so I just let it go. Impressed at my ability to not be worried about her response to my approach.
Her walking speed was kinda slow so that's why I could do this.
Approach 8
In the same walking path I see this girl in jeans and a top and I find her dressing super elegant and hip, her walking speed is moderate to fast.
I follow her down her walking path and I successfully side stop her using the arm tap.
She's wearing earphones so I ground my opener very slowly with quite genuinely interested body language and she quickly takes out her earbuds
Then I cut the act, and just directly tell her she looks hip and she heard the compliment fully and it affects her because she can tell its genuine
Unfortunately, she has a boyfriend and it did not feel as though her relationship was shaky so I didn't go further than that with her
Time check 4pm
The very interesting thing about today is that today is the first day that I have been so happy just doing approaches that didn't go well. Like all of the 4 above approaches I didn't yield any results but
I was still feeling really happy and positive
Approach 9
I walk to another region of the stretch of public benches and I see another girl whose attire I thought was hip and hot and she's sitting alone and engrossed in her phone
She's wearing a zebra colored skirt and a red top wow. I hover near her and she doesn't notice me and I just walk up to her bench from the side and tower over her and tap her shoulder that is closest to me while I'm standing
She asks me why I started talking to her and I say directly that I'm hitting on her AND THEN:
She says "I think it's kind of bad"
She tried to put me down and said the way I hit on girls is wierd. I've been tested like this before this early on in an interaction once so I know that this is a test and this means that she's quite desirous of me currently
I don't make a big deal out of her test and just say no I don't think it's wierd. Then she just goes back to checking her phone refusing to give any other investment and ignoring me so I just start walking away
As I walk away from her, I notice this guy walking in the exact opposite direction looking at me slightly angrily
So apparently that was her boyfriend who was now sitting next to her and looked like he was asking her questions about me because he was looking in my direction. I suppose things may have been different if she had been alone that day
Approach 10 and number close
I leave the stretch of public benches and get one of the 2 taxi stands and I open this girl who's leaning on the wall stationary and we sort of have a 5-10 minute conversation though not a lot of relating was
done and I number close her. Immediately after she gives me her number she starts walking away from me though she did give me her real number. That's my 4th number close today
Time check 440pm
Approach 11
I walked to the other taxi stand and I open the tallest looking girl in the taxi stand with like every other person at the taxi stand watching me and I just go in and compliment her light blue high-heeled shoes
Both the taxi stands are quite small
I barely start the second line coming out of my mouth and her hired car arrives to pick her up
Approach 12 and 1 minute number close
I walk back towards the other taxi stand and on the way I notice a girl in a baggy green and black striped long-sleeve Tshirt who I REALLY like the look of getting out of a car and heading towards the other taxi stand and the entrance to the mall that the other taxi stand belongs to
I follow her into the mall and she gets on an escalator and I shoulder tap her from behind on the escalator that is going downwards and simply say:
"I really like your fashion" (Not a great opener but no worries)
While on the escalator, my head was a lot higher than hers because I 1. I'm much taller than her 2. the escalator is going down and I'm above and
I did not lean my body over in fear that she could not hear me which would have been weak body langauge so I kept my body straight, looked down at her, and raised my voice slightly so she could hear me (perhaps some ligering benefits of my deliberate social fundamentals training last week)
She asked me why I'm talking to her and I said... slowly and surely... (It came off very confidently and I'm sure she respected me for this) :
Me: "Interest in you"
So she says she's in a big rush and I just go for the number close and say perhaps we can text each other (credits to my real-life daygame friend for pushing me to do short closes like these)
She says u can add me on Instagram
Then here (Not sure whether I fked this up but) I said:
Me: Hmm, I don't like to use Instagram to text girls...
So we connect on Telegram and then she just went away. 5th number close of the day and best results I've had... EVER.
Time check 455pm
Approach 13/SMI 9
I went back to the other taxi stand and for some reason I felt like rebuilding social momentum so I went to talk to a well-dressed girl. For some reason, whenever I try to build momentum with girls I have an interest in
they usually seem to have some attraction to me by the time I open them.
So I open her, and she was quite uncomfortable with the interaction but I remained absolutely cool because for some reason my body was entirely chilling out and it felt amazing.
I look at her phone screen and it seemed that her hired car was approaching soon so I just chat with her briefly before her car arrives
Approach 14
I take an escalator back down to the subway station. back to the open waiting area with the many pillars and I see this cute girl engrossed in her phone leaning on one of the pillars
When I open her she told me that she was in the middle of a multi-player phone game where she teaming up and chatting with people so I let it go.
I suppose if I run into such a situation again I will persist and try to get her to stop her game and talk to me.
Time check 5:05
Approach 15
I approach this middle-aged looking cute girl who was waiting at a hotel car porch on the opposite side of the main road for a car with "Hi!... I just wanted to ask... Are you single?"
To which she said no but then she opened up to talking with me and told me she has kids and she invests almost all her time on her kids and we converse for perhaps about 1 minute.
From 5pm onwards I'm preparing to head back to take the subway back to the initial subway station next to which I parked my car to prepare for the date at 6pm. I just do some more checking out of this awesome daygame location I'm at
Approach 16
While checking out the bus stop where I did SMI 7, I spot this girl in a long white dress and grey shoes and hand bag and I thought the attire looked good. She was quite happy with my compliment
but quite uncomfortable with the interaction. I later see that a car comes to pick her up and it seems that she is probably married.
Time check 515pm
Approach 17
While I was waiting in the subway station to catch the train back to the other subway station, I spot a girl in loose baggy white pants and a slim grey T-shirt. I open her with a genuine interest opener and I just natural start a conversation with her
but she seems quite uncomfortable with the interaction and then she moves away though she's smiling the whole time.
I call it an outing and stop approaching to prepare for the 6pm date.
Skills that I am supposed to be deliberately training this outing but honestly did not deliberately train
Increase my approach numbers for each outing
The goal here for now is to be increasing my approach numbers to a stage where I am doing 4 approaches an hour WHILE maintaining my other learning progress.
I will only start to think about doing 5 approaches an hour (recommended on GC blog as optimal) after I manage to achieve 4 approaches an hour
This is not advice taken from HTMGC but I do not feel that it really conflicts with the HTMGC content either.
I am starting to feel more and more that seduction is a numbers game.
The hard push (From HTMGC)
Just keep asking a girl enough times to change her mind
Just keep giving her reasons that sound good
The panoply of reasons (From HTMGC)
Throw a bunch of logical reasons her way so that it is overwhelmingly logical that she carry on the interaction with you
The aim is to structure everything as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that might be lost if the interaction does not carry on
Conversation (From HTMGC)
1. Only sharing from perspectives that she can relate to
Couch an experience u share with a girl on something that she can relate to. But get as much specific information about her experience before u share yours as possible
If she hasn't had the experience, ask what kind of experience she would like to have
2. Thread cutting
Take a word out of her previous sentence and build a more interesting thread from there.
Remember to relate to the sentiment of her previous sentence and not just the words
3. Thread amplifying
When she hits an interesting topic:
a. Share a related experience that I have
b. Show interest and request that she tell you more about it
Lessons learnt/remarks
1. The weather was really good because it was a fully cloudy day. I believe this added a lot to my positive mood. Normally, at this time of day it would be HORRENDOUSLY BLAZING.
2. I realised how much better it is to learn by approaching stationary girls as compared to moving girls. I will test out this daygame location on a different Saturday when it is very hot and see how much that affects my results
3. I did not deliberately train my conversation skills but I did find a good new daygame location AND I did work on the HARD PUSH mindset
What I have found about the hard push is that:
For me, the essential skill is not actually executing it. I find the execution reasonably doable.
The essential skill is identifying WHEN THE HARD PUSH IS NEEDED , and then committing to the hard push no matter how much I have fked up thus far throughout the interaction at hand
I planned for this outing to be from 130-530pm. I had a date (from Cold approach the previous Sunday) 6pm
The location
Imagine 2 adjacent stations on a subway line
I park my car a distance away from the first subway station (this was my date location with my date logistics)
I take the subway to the 2nd subway station (outside of which is a bloody fantastic daygame location as I have discovered today)
The daygame location series of a very wide stretch of public benches and smoking area outside malls, connected with 2 taxi stands, where there are tons of STATIONARY girls that is good for beginners to learn
The outing starts from when I get out of my car
The sequence of events of the outing
Social momentum interaction(Will abbreviate to SMI) 1
I pass a construction site and I run into one of the project managers and his employee. Compliment his hairstyle and have some fun chatting with them for 2-3 mins.
Time check 140pm
Approach 1 and insta-date
Here I thought that I was just going to simply talk to this olive-brown skin girl for social momentum but for some reason she did seem to be attracted to me so
I opened by genuinely complimenting her style while we were waiting for the subway. It turns out that we are also getting out at the same stop 1 subway station away
We have a conversation and speak quietly because I don't want to attract to much attention to us. She's feeling really nervous throughout the train ride and I'm getting some feeling that she feels that I am more high value than her
She's a domestic helper from Indonesia and she seemed rather insecure about it when I asked her
When we get out of the train, I motion her to come to chat with me at a corner and she just shakes her head and walks in the opposite direction. I hesitate to chase her and look away and 5 seconds later, she blends into the crowd and I cant see her anymore
Then a miracle happens
Since I also have to get out of the station and tap out using my subway card, I go to the tapout point and then to my left I see her walking in the same direction as me
I wave to her again and reopen her. This time I persist harder and more confidently to walk 10-20 metres into a corner where it's more comfortable to have a chat and it took a fair bit of being sure of myself to pull it off and I successfully did it
We chat and I ask her out to meet me the next week and I number close
I had to persist a reasonable amount before I got her to say some sort of a yes to a date. She was quite unsure about her schedule
Approach 2 and 20 min long conversation
I get out of the subway station to the long stretch of public benches and I approach this Filipina domestic helper who's sitting down. Once again, I initially planned this to be just to build social momentum
but I sensed she was attracted to me so I turned up the intent and asked her out
She's quite fun to talk to and we talk for about 20 mins
I persisted about 2-3 time to get her to say yes to meeting me again. Though she was quite unsure about her schedule.
Then I number close and walk away into the mall because I lied that I was going to meet my friend in the mall (this daygame walking route involves going into the malls as minimally as possible)
Time check 230pm
Approach 3 and quick number close
Once again I thought I would just build social momentum by talking to this next girl but when I start talking to her I felt the same nervous shiver of attraction (I am quite sexy in terms of appearance) so I turn this into an approach
This happened on the opposite end of the mall where I exited the mall onto one of the taxi stands described at the beginning of this field report where there are always quite attractive and stationary girls
I decided to talk to this girl for fun because she had this bag slung over her left shoulder with what looked like archery arrows sticking out of it
So it turns out she does archery and I use that to have a conversation and I can sort of tell that she's waiting for a hired car to pick her up so I decide to quickly ask her out and get her number and it actually successfully happens
So that's my 3rd number in a row
At this stage I'm quite shocked because the most numbers that I have gotten in a single outing before is 3. Today I got 3 numbers from my first 3 approaches ONLY. After the first 3 approaches, I manage to get another 2 numbers. Writing this field report now I will acknowledge that there may have been quite a bit of luck involved
This was probably due to the fact that all 3 of these girls were stationary, which is a perk this new great daygame location I discovered
I decide to cross the main road using the underground crossing to scout the smoking areas on the opposite side of the main road as daygame locations
TIme check 245pm
I decide to go talk to 2-3 more people to build social momentum.
SMI 2
I speak to this supervisor for a Japanese Supermarket who is standing outside the supermarket that he is supervising located in the underground crossing that I was using to cross the main road
I speak to him for about 10 minutes
Time check 3 p.m.
I spend a little bit of time sending "Hi (name), this is Y... Save my number." To the 3 girls that I just got numbers from.
I cross the main road
SMI 3
I speak to this dude at the smoking point across the main road and it was quite a boring conversation. I say to myself, "no worries"
Building social momentum and making friends JUST LIKE pickup is a numbers game so I just hurry up and go and find more people to talk to
SMI 4, 5, 6
I speak to 3 different people for the purposes of building social momentum. There is this old lady who refused to tell me what language she spoke, though she was able to understand what I was saying. She ignores me.
There was this fat and pretty stuck up Filipino guy with interesting yellow shoes who ignores me as well
There is this Indian guy who I do manage to get into a cool 1-2 min conversation about how even in an English-language dominated society, Indian people are rarely given English names.
I feel some anxiety coming back from getting ignored so I tell myself to just chill out and further test out my new daygame route which I have so far found as quite a cool daygame location/timing
SMI 7
I walk to a bus stop on the opposite side of the main road from the stretch of public benches and I speak to this guy for 3-4 minutes about his job where he has to wear a suit in a bloody hot car park for 7 hours a day
I show genuine interest in what he does and ask him about his job and say may I'll apply for it
Time check 3:30pm
SMI 8
I speak to a different Filipino dude who was waiting for his wife for about 1-2 minutes and he was pretty friendly with me though we had quite a monotonous conversation
I decide to start approaching for real but first go to the bathroom in one of the malls to chill out
Approach 4
I walk towards the entrance to the underground crossing to cross back to the side of the street with the long stretch of public benches
As I am entering the underground crossing, I see a girl ahead of me who is also entering the underground crossing who I like the look of
When in the underground crossing, I walk fast up to her and attempt to side stop her using the arm tap.
She stop for 1 second only, looks at me, gives me look that says she can sort of tell what I'm doing and just waves her hand and gives a facial expression that says "no"
Approach 5
The underground crossing opens up into this wide underground area next to the subway tapout where there are many pillars and walls to lean on where there are tons of people just waiting around for their friends before meeting up
I see another girl I like who is wearing a hat and is very engrossed in her phone. I move near her and she doesn't notice me.
I tap her on the shoulder and she, appearing to be in a bad mood, lightly snaps "What do you want?" and moves away to lean on a different pillar.
Here I don't persist either
Approach 6
I exit the underground subway station onto the long stretch of public benches and I see a girl sitting alone and I do the hover and approach. I ask what language she uses and the once she realises I'm hitting on her she moves away to sit on a different bench
I walk away to spot about 20-30 metres away from where I initially approached her but still within her field of vision and let the interaction cool for a minute and give her space
Then I walk another 30 metres towards the bench that she moved to and persist to open her again with "If this is making you uncomfortable, I can just go do my own thing, I'm waiting for my friend"
I notice from her body language that she's no longer defensive towards me and I managed to defuse most discomfort but she still does not say anything so I ask
"Do you have a boyfriend?" She says in quite a dry deadpan direct tone "I'm already married". We wave each other off in a friendly manner
Approach 7
I see this cute, probably married, Indian girl walking and I run up to her and wave stop her. She stops but then I suppose my opener is not great or whatever and she starts walking again.
I decide to persist and walk up to her a second time and do the arm tap and I ask her a question with some genuine interest and confidence and say that I'm serious about talking to her
She just refuses to invest and so I just let it go. Impressed at my ability to not be worried about her response to my approach.
Her walking speed was kinda slow so that's why I could do this.
Approach 8
In the same walking path I see this girl in jeans and a top and I find her dressing super elegant and hip, her walking speed is moderate to fast.
I follow her down her walking path and I successfully side stop her using the arm tap.
She's wearing earphones so I ground my opener very slowly with quite genuinely interested body language and she quickly takes out her earbuds
Then I cut the act, and just directly tell her she looks hip and she heard the compliment fully and it affects her because she can tell its genuine
Unfortunately, she has a boyfriend and it did not feel as though her relationship was shaky so I didn't go further than that with her
Time check 4pm
The very interesting thing about today is that today is the first day that I have been so happy just doing approaches that didn't go well. Like all of the 4 above approaches I didn't yield any results but
I was still feeling really happy and positive
Approach 9
I walk to another region of the stretch of public benches and I see another girl whose attire I thought was hip and hot and she's sitting alone and engrossed in her phone
She's wearing a zebra colored skirt and a red top wow. I hover near her and she doesn't notice me and I just walk up to her bench from the side and tower over her and tap her shoulder that is closest to me while I'm standing
She asks me why I started talking to her and I say directly that I'm hitting on her AND THEN:
She says "I think it's kind of bad"
She tried to put me down and said the way I hit on girls is wierd. I've been tested like this before this early on in an interaction once so I know that this is a test and this means that she's quite desirous of me currently
I don't make a big deal out of her test and just say no I don't think it's wierd. Then she just goes back to checking her phone refusing to give any other investment and ignoring me so I just start walking away
As I walk away from her, I notice this guy walking in the exact opposite direction looking at me slightly angrily
So apparently that was her boyfriend who was now sitting next to her and looked like he was asking her questions about me because he was looking in my direction. I suppose things may have been different if she had been alone that day
Approach 10 and number close
I leave the stretch of public benches and get one of the 2 taxi stands and I open this girl who's leaning on the wall stationary and we sort of have a 5-10 minute conversation though not a lot of relating was
done and I number close her. Immediately after she gives me her number she starts walking away from me though she did give me her real number. That's my 4th number close today
Time check 440pm
Approach 11
I walked to the other taxi stand and I open the tallest looking girl in the taxi stand with like every other person at the taxi stand watching me and I just go in and compliment her light blue high-heeled shoes
Both the taxi stands are quite small
I barely start the second line coming out of my mouth and her hired car arrives to pick her up
Approach 12 and 1 minute number close
I walk back towards the other taxi stand and on the way I notice a girl in a baggy green and black striped long-sleeve Tshirt who I REALLY like the look of getting out of a car and heading towards the other taxi stand and the entrance to the mall that the other taxi stand belongs to
I follow her into the mall and she gets on an escalator and I shoulder tap her from behind on the escalator that is going downwards and simply say:
"I really like your fashion" (Not a great opener but no worries)
While on the escalator, my head was a lot higher than hers because I 1. I'm much taller than her 2. the escalator is going down and I'm above and
I did not lean my body over in fear that she could not hear me which would have been weak body langauge so I kept my body straight, looked down at her, and raised my voice slightly so she could hear me (perhaps some ligering benefits of my deliberate social fundamentals training last week)
She asked me why I'm talking to her and I said... slowly and surely... (It came off very confidently and I'm sure she respected me for this) :
Me: "Interest in you"
So she says she's in a big rush and I just go for the number close and say perhaps we can text each other (credits to my real-life daygame friend for pushing me to do short closes like these)
She says u can add me on Instagram
Then here (Not sure whether I fked this up but) I said:
Me: Hmm, I don't like to use Instagram to text girls...
So we connect on Telegram and then she just went away. 5th number close of the day and best results I've had... EVER.
Time check 455pm
Approach 13/SMI 9
I went back to the other taxi stand and for some reason I felt like rebuilding social momentum so I went to talk to a well-dressed girl. For some reason, whenever I try to build momentum with girls I have an interest in
they usually seem to have some attraction to me by the time I open them.
So I open her, and she was quite uncomfortable with the interaction but I remained absolutely cool because for some reason my body was entirely chilling out and it felt amazing.
I look at her phone screen and it seemed that her hired car was approaching soon so I just chat with her briefly before her car arrives
Approach 14
I take an escalator back down to the subway station. back to the open waiting area with the many pillars and I see this cute girl engrossed in her phone leaning on one of the pillars
When I open her she told me that she was in the middle of a multi-player phone game where she teaming up and chatting with people so I let it go.
I suppose if I run into such a situation again I will persist and try to get her to stop her game and talk to me.
Time check 5:05
Approach 15
I approach this middle-aged looking cute girl who was waiting at a hotel car porch on the opposite side of the main road for a car with "Hi!... I just wanted to ask... Are you single?"
To which she said no but then she opened up to talking with me and told me she has kids and she invests almost all her time on her kids and we converse for perhaps about 1 minute.
From 5pm onwards I'm preparing to head back to take the subway back to the initial subway station next to which I parked my car to prepare for the date at 6pm. I just do some more checking out of this awesome daygame location I'm at
Approach 16
While checking out the bus stop where I did SMI 7, I spot this girl in a long white dress and grey shoes and hand bag and I thought the attire looked good. She was quite happy with my compliment
but quite uncomfortable with the interaction. I later see that a car comes to pick her up and it seems that she is probably married.
Time check 515pm
Approach 17
While I was waiting in the subway station to catch the train back to the other subway station, I spot a girl in loose baggy white pants and a slim grey T-shirt. I open her with a genuine interest opener and I just natural start a conversation with her
but she seems quite uncomfortable with the interaction and then she moves away though she's smiling the whole time.
I call it an outing and stop approaching to prepare for the 6pm date.
Skills that I am supposed to be deliberately training this outing but honestly did not deliberately train
Increase my approach numbers for each outing
The goal here for now is to be increasing my approach numbers to a stage where I am doing 4 approaches an hour WHILE maintaining my other learning progress.
I will only start to think about doing 5 approaches an hour (recommended on GC blog as optimal) after I manage to achieve 4 approaches an hour
This is not advice taken from HTMGC but I do not feel that it really conflicts with the HTMGC content either.
I am starting to feel more and more that seduction is a numbers game.
The hard push (From HTMGC)
Just keep asking a girl enough times to change her mind
Just keep giving her reasons that sound good
The panoply of reasons (From HTMGC)
Throw a bunch of logical reasons her way so that it is overwhelmingly logical that she carry on the interaction with you
The aim is to structure everything as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that might be lost if the interaction does not carry on
Conversation (From HTMGC)
1. Only sharing from perspectives that she can relate to
Couch an experience u share with a girl on something that she can relate to. But get as much specific information about her experience before u share yours as possible
If she hasn't had the experience, ask what kind of experience she would like to have
2. Thread cutting
Take a word out of her previous sentence and build a more interesting thread from there.
Remember to relate to the sentiment of her previous sentence and not just the words
3. Thread amplifying
When she hits an interesting topic:
a. Share a related experience that I have
b. Show interest and request that she tell you more about it
Lessons learnt/remarks
1. The weather was really good because it was a fully cloudy day. I believe this added a lot to my positive mood. Normally, at this time of day it would be HORRENDOUSLY BLAZING.
2. I realised how much better it is to learn by approaching stationary girls as compared to moving girls. I will test out this daygame location on a different Saturday when it is very hot and see how much that affects my results
3. I did not deliberately train my conversation skills but I did find a good new daygame location AND I did work on the HARD PUSH mindset
What I have found about the hard push is that:
For me, the essential skill is not actually executing it. I find the execution reasonably doable.
The essential skill is identifying WHEN THE HARD PUSH IS NEEDED , and then committing to the hard push no matter how much I have fked up thus far throughout the interaction at hand
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