My Birthday Party- Social Circle Drama

[Bboy100]

Background: This last Tuesday, my buddy and I went to a dorm party. By the time we got there, everyone was gone except for two girls. They were sisters. One of them was a girl my buddy had been going after for a few months (apparently this was their second time hanging out, so he wasn't friend-zoned yet). Also, its important to note that I matched with this girl on Tinder several times. And as a courtesy to my buddy, I didn't message her or try to get with her in any way shape or form.

So anyways...when we got to the party, both the girls were instantly super into me. Neither of them seemed to like my buddy as much more than a friend. Regardless, I let him chat with his girl, and I started gaming her cute sister. By the end of the night, I had her laying in my lap telling me how cute I am and how "comfortable my leg is". Unfortunately, given that it was a dorm, there was no way to isolate her. So I left. But not before inviting them to my birthday party which was tonight.

The Party: The party started out great. I was having fun, the two girls and my buddy eventually showed up. In about 30 mins, I was making out with the little sister, getting ready to isolate her (tbh, I thought she was pretty much dtf at this point). She was literally straddling my lap, facing me, telling me how cute I am and kissing me every once in a while.

Eventually, I isolated her to the garage downstairs and started trying to escalate on her. Unfortuntely, I didn't get any articles of clothing off at all before she said she "didn't want to sleep with me". Taking Hector's advice from a different post, I decided to try to address her objections:

Her: I really want to sleep with you, but I don't think I'm going to.
Me: Oh, and why's that?
Her: Idk, I'm just not comfortable with it.
Me: Howcome?
Me: Do you maybe feel like I'll judge you, or do you feel like you're not well connected enough to me? I it something else?
Her: Ok, here's the real reason. This is a one-night stand. And I don't want to do that.
Me: Well, it's not a one-night stand. I met you the other day. Also, what's wrong with one-night stands?
Her: Nothing. But I just don't want to do them. I had one before, and I felt awful about it the next day.
Her: Let's go back upstairs.
Me: Ok, that's totally cool. Yeah, sure we can go back upstairs.

How would you guys have dealt with these objections?

So we go back upstairs. Naturally, she almost entirely loses interest in me. A little while longer, she's all over my buddy who introduced me to the two girls at the start. Two hours later, they're cuddling on the ground kissing.

I got fucking pissed off. After pleading with me so hard to let him have the other girl, he goes after my girl without hesitation. At this point, I've decided that all bets are off. I'm going after the other sister who he I had so graciaously refrained from messaging on Tinder.

I kiss her. She seems into it. But she says there are too many people around (this is true). I told her she had a good point. We chilled there for a while after. Finally, the two sisters decide to leave. But I manage to split the older one off (the one I'm now pursuing). I walk her to her car. While we're walking, she asks me:

Her: Did my sister+Travis annoy you? (Travis is the name of my friend)
Me: Yeah, a lot more than I should have let it.
Her: Yeah, I hate it when my sister does that. She's ruined so many friendships. She doesn't even like him (Travis). She's not going to call him tomorrow. She just does that to fuck with guys.
Me: Yeah, I can tell. I know exactly why she does that.
Her: Why?
Me: She told me she recently broke up with an abusive boyfriend and she hates all guys right now.

[The little sister and Travis catch up to us]

They walk me to my car, and I bounce.

So I have several questions for you guys:
1. Is it possible that the little sister was never attracted to me in the first place and that she just played me like she's (likely) playing my friend?
2. How would you guys recommend I proceed with the big sister?

Kind of a shitty end to my bday. But I'm also kind of glad it happened because now I know what my friend is like. Any time he introduces me to cute girls, I won't hesitate to make my move on them, even if he's into them (I can run circles around him in terms of game...which is why I honestly believe the little sister probably was just messing with him).

 

[windsofchange]

Now, this is quite a case study, I must say.

First thing first, about that friend. That was a douche move on his part.

-The younger sister played all three of you. She managed to steal you away from the older one (who probably would've done you right away) AND manage to mess with both you and your friend's minds.

You mention Hector's advice for addressing objections. What was the advice? Because it seems like you tried to logically reason her to sleep with you, and ended up fueling her Anti-Slut Defense. Perhaps you could've diverted the topic away from the sexual tension (something interesting in the garage maybe), or just lie there, anything except bringing her attention to the failed escalation. Ie make it feel like sex isn't a big deal with nonchalance and smooth persistence rather than via logical verbals? Also, maybe it had a little to do with the fact that you tried to escalate on two separate nights (maybe she would've been more down the first night than the second when she'd have had a chance to talk to her sister about what happened, etc).

I'd suggest proceeding with caution when you try with the older sister, because the younger one has a definite propensity for drama; and it could backfire in ways you won't want to imagine. Sure, it would be nice to fuck her (and get back at your friend), but watch out for the potential for large drama.

 

[Bboy100]

She managed to steal you away from the older one (who probably would've done you right away)

Not really. I would have pursued the older one from the start if I wasn't letting my friend "have" her. But since I was, I wouldn't have gone after her even if the younger sister didn't exist (I actually didn't even know about her till we got to the dorm party). And besides, the older sister is still super into me (unless attraction expired overnight). So she (the younger one) didn't really do a whole lot. But regardless, you're right she still did play all of us into being jealous of one another haha. Which is pretty impressive considering that she's only 18...

You mention Hector's advice for addressing objections. What was the advice?

I don't want to put words in his mouth. So here's the post Im talking about: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13013

But the basic gist of it is, if a women already wants to sleep with you (i.e. feels attracted and invested enough), dealing with logical objections can be useful. The reason we normally don't want to do that is because you can't logically talk a girl into attraction. But if attraction is already there, you can logically talk her out of any reservations she has.

I'd suggest proceeding with caution when you try with the older sister, because the younger one has a definite propensity for drama

Yeah. I'm thinking of just texting the older one for an easy date. Younger sister need not be further involved.