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tvktvk

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey guys, been a while since I've posted any proper FR's here and that's because I've been working on my game!

Update on me:
Since I came back home I've been going out in average three times a week, barely drinking when going out, sometimes all by myself, meditating, drastically reduced pornwatching and masturbating and of course still working on my process and fundamentals.
Still no lay, but the truth is it's been a very long time since I have been this happy. I've concluded it's because I can finally see the light in the end of the tunnel (which is being able to have sex with new beautiful women on a consistent basis)

First Encounter
This report is from a few weeks ago. I was visiting a good friend of mine out of town for a few days. He lives in this city up north which is heavily populated by students.

One night I was supposed to meet him and his new girlfriend at a bar after pregaming with some other friends. The line to the bar is ridiculous. While waiting I suddenly feel someone nudging me pretty hard from the side. I look over my shoulder and notice this short cute girl next to me, pretending she did just not do that. Silly and cute. Anyways, I kinda stall cause I don't know what line I should open her with, also I'm evaluating if she's cute enough... She pulls out her phone and talk to her friend, she can't find them. Perfect.

I open her with You lost your friends too? Boom, I'm in. She's very receptive and warm, so it was pretty easy keeping the convo going. I find out she actually lives in my city and is visiting her friends here too! Hahah. 5 min later we're in the bar. She follows me to the coat check and we sneak a little bit in the line together. When she takes off her coat I see her dress which is... hideous. What kinda fashion sense does this girl have? Luckily for her she's pretty cute. Anyways, after the coat check I say to her I have to go find my friends, but I tell her to hand over her phone. She protests saying that she won't remember to text me later. I keep my frame and tell her to do as I say. She does and I send a "hey cutie" text to myself, laughs. I tell her I'll see you later with a half smile and we part ways.

I ended up NOT seeing her later that night. We started planning logistics a couple hours later and then my phone dies...However we end up planning a date together for when we get back home! I propose drinks and a movie and she happily agrees. (If anyone wants the texting parts, PM me :))

The Date
On the day of the date I send her the anti flake text and everything is going smoothly. All I'm doing when texting is following Chase's guidelines and it's working perfectly!
It's wednesday. She had practice until 6.30pm so we agree to meet up 8.30 at this bar 1 minute from my place. I make sure she has to wait for me a few minutes before I arrive. When I get there we quickly find out that the bar is pretty full and there are no seats available (on a wednesday! haha wtf). We head over to the basement bar, a two minute walk from the first bar. That one is also packed, but we manage to find some place to sit together.

We get one beer each and we sit and talk for about one hour. Her outfit is horrible again... I try to go through the 8 questions to ask on a date. She seems kinda aloof but the conversation flows. She just doesn't seem to like talking that much. Anyways, I wrap my arm around her shoulder and touch her thigh a lot while we're talking. She seems to like it. 1 hour passes and I tell her the bar is too loud and I propose we leave. She quickly agrees.

When we step out she asks me your place or mine? Haha, I tell her I probably live closer so we head over to my apartment.

Back at My Place
One of my roomies is at home occupying the couch in the living room. Him and my girl casually exchange pleasantries, I offer her some water and we head downstairs to my room. Ask if she needs to use the bathroom, she declines. I use it for 1 minute to just freshen up a little bit.

When I'm done I head to my room and close the door. She is just standing there and looking at her phone. I tell her we're watching the movie on my bed and we snuggle up together (I'm spooning her) while I launch popcorntime on my laptop. I leave the lights on though, was this a bad move regarding physical escalation? My internet sucks so it takes a few minutes before the movie starts... I use Tool's you smell good, what perfume is that? I go in for the kiss and she kisses back. I pull back and smile teasingly. Everything is working so fucking smoothly at this point. We look at the movie for a minute before I kiss her again. We then start to make out more heavily and I push the laptop away. I take off my shirt and she gives me this "eehh okayy?" look. I just smile and keep kissing her. I tell her she would be more comfortable without her shirt, she complies very shyly. We're switching on who's on top. I start to kiss her neck and upper body. I pull her bra down and suck her nipples a little bit. After that I get her pants off before I take off mine. I wedgie her panties and start licking her pussylips on each side. We're probably 15 minutes into the escalation. She is not giving any sounds off pleasure like moaning or anything. Am I not doing this stuff right? I go for her panties and she whines saying this is going to fast. I assure her we're not doing anything she doesn't wanna do and start kissing her again.

She's on top and I put her hand on my dick, still wearing a boxer. She starts rubbing it, but I'm only semi-hard. I was actually dissapointed in how she looked naked, not very impressive. I ask her what her hand is on right now (trying to do some california pimp stuff). She laughs, but won't say she is rubbing my dick. I'm hoping she will take my cock out but after a few minutes she takes away her hand... should I have pulled it out myself? 1 min later I go for her panties again, she whines telling me it's not okay and it's going too fast. I just keep calm and keep going. After some kissing I lick her pussylips again on each side of her panties. I start to get hair in my mouth which is disgusting. No sounds of pleasure from her either... Should I have just pulled her panties to the side? I start to tell her how sexy she is and how I just want to make her come. She doesn't answer me. Overall she lacked passion, which was a huge turnoff. I go for her panties one last time but she just whines again. about 1 hour has passed.

After a couple of minutes more I stop escalating, roll over and just lie on my back looking at the roof. She looks at me and ask me if I'm mad. I just laugh, smile warmly and tell her "no, I'm just curious why you don't wanna let go because I know you would like it". She goes quiet. After a while I ask if it's just too fast for her, and she nods. Now this is where I fuck up big time, I kinda knew this but I didn't really give a shit. I tell her that I would love to see her again some other, but she had to understand that I don't want anything serious and I don't have time for a girlfriend. She says she understands. She then tells me she has to go. We get dressed and I follow her out. Before she heads out she tells me she is looking for something serious and we shouldn't see each other again. I say okay, we hug and out she goes. The end.

Thoughts
So I've put most of my effort describing the escalation in this report since it's here things got off track. Everythings up to that point was going so smoothly it was surreal. I myself think that one of the things I have to work on a lot is my persistence skills. I'll post another FR which illustrates this better.

Being this close to loosing my virginity was kind of a bummer, but like I said earlier in this FR, I don't think I ever have been this happy. Everything just makes sense. Girls are silly, there are beautiful women everywhere and work just a litle bit and you will start getting results (right now I'm getting phonenumbers easily and a lot of compliance). I know I will reach the promised land. It's just a matter of time. And knowing that makes me happy.

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ray_zorse

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An interesting case. I reckon the problem was you were not giving her enough pleasure to smash through the LMR. I think I would probably have skipped the oral on her and kept it for dessert... reasoning as follows
(1) if you only tease her orally (which is what it sounds like) you're not really giving her enough pleasure
(2) whereas if you allow her to come, she'll probably call it a night and leave before you get to come.
While you were alternately going on top and below and grinding on her, did you stimulate her clit by finger? Because if not you definitely should have. I find a combination of this, plus sucking on her ear and putting my tongue in there and a bit of hot breath (optionally while whispering sexual stuff) tends to get her pretty hot and makes the LMR go away. But as a word of caution you're overriding her logical brain so if you stop, for instance to put a condom on or whatever, LMR can come back. Anyway, as to the wedgie I would definitely have pushed her panties to one side, teasing her pussy lips is great as a prelude to committing to the clit but it probably wasn't providing her enough stimulation.

Having said all that, some women are just not that good in bed so I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. If you are only semi hard and she's not doing the needful then your option is basically to order her to do it. If she doesn't know what to do then it will be a lot harder, although if you keep giving instructions things could go okay. But it helps to have built compliance first. This is something you really should be concentrating on throughout the date.

+1 to DrexelScott on not rewarding LMR and on doing the takeaway. One thing I would add, is if you do the takeaway and stick to it, she'll respect you a lot more. This happened to me, had a very difficult conservative girl interested for a bit, with great difficulty after about 4 or 5 dates pulled her back to the house with plausible deniability, got as far as massaging her back when she said "I want to go home" and so I said "okay.. go" and basically ignored her after that, a few other things happened but that's about the price of it. NEXTed her, but she got back in contact and now she messages me every night to say goodnight, etc. She's keen and investing hard, just because I came across as different to every other guy. Hmm.

-Ray
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

tvktvk

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Thank you so much guys, a lot of great pointers and advice!

Hopefully I'll get to test some of it out this weekend :)

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