my Last post ever on the boards, So f$ck all of this sh#t

[MisterX]

I just came home after a pretty horrible night that is so bad I changed the direction of my life.

It was so bad that my friend and I drank 2 bottled of scotch and almost passed out. I'll try to write this before falling asleep.



I've talked about how I was fat and I slimmed down and got good with girls and my goal was to make girls fall in love and shatter their hearts and hurting them as much as possible.

Then I decided thanks so Chase and some of you, to try something more real and not to hurt girls.

It was all well and good till a few weeks ago. In short I met this girl and I said I won't fall for her but she is a pro at seduction, like a female version of Chase. I didn't fall much for her but I started wandering what if this is it. Then came tonight's events...


Lets say I actually had it right before: screwing as much girls as I can, making them fall for me - and having power over them, then braking their hearts. I just talked to a friend who is actually even better with girls than me. And he said it perfectly :

the moment you start having any so slight feelings you get crushed.

The only way to be good with girls is to look at them like they are worth less than the used condom you throw away.
Relationships and love are a myth. If you start feeling anything at all you're screwed 10000000000% of the times. No way around it. It can only work out in a relationship where you have no feeling for the girl what so ever.

I used to believe this, then I said maybe I'll give this not hurting girls thing a chance, but it's proven to me that I was wright before.

I'm not saying that women are bad or evil, they don't do it on purpose(but they do it) and the moment you let your guard down - GAME OVER.



The period when I was actually doing this - hurting girls on purpose, is the time I got the most lays. So back to that again. Sleeping with as much girls as I can. Making sure they fall inlove then break her heart in the most brutal and painful way possible. Make sure she knows what I've felt and what the guys she's done this to, have felt. If I can scar her for life, ruining her future relationships by making sure she can never trust again - I'd feel like it's all even now.



It's fucked up - I went hurting girls, and did great, then I decided not to hurt them and maybe get into a relationship but it doesn't work out. Probably I'm more attractive as the guy who is dangerous and is gonna hurt her.


In my country there is a saying "It doesn't matter how bad you're feeling - it only matter how bad you can make everyone else feel"




Maybe I'm pretty pissed since I decided not to hurt girls and in return I got what happened, so it might be that. But I sure as hell will make sure to make as many girls as possible feel my pain multiplied by 100.




So this is probably my last post ever, and I might get banned by Franco, but fuck it. I've read some other guys on here like Zac, who are also pretty low and having problems with finding a girl for a meaningful relationship. Bro I feel you , it's not you - it's just the way things are in this reality we live in.

Just live your life, do what you want. Focus on your ambitions and career. And when you want to fuck, get girls and treat them like the disposable garbage that they are on the inside.




Piece and fuck all of this, I'm going to sleep this off and sober up.

 

[nexus321]

Listen man. I don't get you. You get all these women, you get so much sex and you're miserable! I would kill to be you man! My skill level hopefully is increasing. But I think you fail to realize the point of this site....there is always something you can do! If you want love man then go for it. Does that mean that it will be easy!? HELL NO! Love is never easy. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't go for it. If you can sleep with girls then you can definitely get girls to fall in love with you, you just need to learn how. That's all man.

 

[Marty]

Mr. X:

Your problem is right here:

I just talked to a friend who is actually even better with girls than me. And he said it perfectly :
the moment you start having any so slight feelings you get crushed.

Did you stop to think, "What the fuck is he talking about"? This is what happens to your consciousness if you surround yourself with negative-minded people, and from then on it affects every situation you come into contact with.

For mercy's sake, and for the pity of all the women who are touched by your life, put yourself among some decent, happy, success-oriented people who can be a source of support and inspiration to you, and can give you constructive advice.

Read Great Expectations, if you haven't already. Nothing good came of Miss Havisham, and nothing good will come of you if you proceed down this dark path.

-Marty

 

[Mr.Rob]

In my country there is a saying "It doesn't matter how bad you're feeling - it only matter how bad you can make everyone else feel"

Where do you live? In Occupied Nazi Germany from 70 years ago?

I agree with Marty MisterX I think you might be letting the wrong influences into your life regarding women. You are who you hang around.

Good luck bro.

-Rob

 

[Eternity]

Think you're the only guy who's been gamed before? Welcome to the world of great players, and women who play the game better than some of the best out there.

 

[Chase]

I would urge all, and especially MisterX, not to follow the coward's path of revenging one's injuries upon those innocents who did not deliver them.

If you must revenge yourself, revenge yourself upon the person who wrought your suffering, and in the same way that he wrought it upon you; this is a true victory, though a minor one.

The higher path still though is to quell the desire for immediate revenge and instead to turn the light inward, and find the flaws in yourself that opened you up to being injured in the first place, and correct them. This is the greatest victory.

The path of using the energy from a wounded ego to correct and better yourself first leads to the greatest victory, for only too late, your injurers will realize that you have surpassed them by every measure, and have become mighty, while they can do nothing but regret having injured you rather than kept you as friend, and you are there always as a constant but off-limits reminder of what they could have had, but rejected.

The second path, of returning the very same wrong to the individual who provided it to you, leads to a lesser victory, one-on-one versus an adversary, that does not elevate you but at least cows your opponent and makes him less likely to trouble you or others again. By not revenging yourself further than in the same manner that you were wronged, you equally provide him no ammunition to seek a secondary revenge on you due to excess punishment.

The third path, of revenging yourself upon innocents, leads to no victory, but only the gradual hardening of your heart and the gradual accumulation for yourself of more and more enemies, who, though they may be weaker than you, by sheer number and luck eventually find a way to revenge back upon you the injuries you have caused them in malice, and often out of proportion to the original injury, as these things fester and boil and grow the longer they are sat upon, held onto, and grown sour and vengeful over.

Chase

EDIT: also gents, please refrain from posting long, angry rants when emotional/drunk. I promise you you will invariably find yourself blushing the next day.

If you're raging and need to get something out, I recommend popping open a word processor and writing it all down. Then save it, go to sleep, and come back to it the next day. If it still makes sense to post, post it then, but it almost never will.

 

[trashKENNUT]

MisterX,

So this is probably my last post ever, and I might get banned by Franco, but fuck it. I've read some other guys on here like Zac, who are also pretty low and having problems with finding a girl for a meaningful relationship. Bro I feel you , it's not you - it's just the way things are in this reality we live in.

In case, I am not looking for a meaningful relationship. I want to feel what is like to feel that i can achieve anything. And yes, i "imprisoned" my girl on the third year after our two year relationship.

Was i proud of it? No... Because she's been there for me since day 1.

Because here's what most people don't understand. You do become powerful and this women lifes does fall into your hands. Are women bad people for sometimes go on and talk to guys? No... because they like us. Here's another thing that most guys don't see. Girls are like us. They are humans. You probably right that half of girls do play do shitty games and throw people under the bus. But until you are somewhat an awesome guy, you do sometimes have to be like what this girls do, throw people under buses. Because now unattractive girls (for women, it's unattractive guys) will start throwing everything at you.

and then you have another problem, and another and another.

Zac

 

[trashKENNUT]

MisterX,

whatever it is, just check this out. Are Women evil?

Zac

 

[Drck]

MisterX actually emphasizes quite interesting point. You treat her nicely, do many things for her, have nice feelings about her and willing to do much more, only waiting till she asks... - yet she dumps you on the spot and disrespects you as if you were nothing else than a total loser....

On the other hand, you treat her like a garbage, have no feelings for her, do absolutely NOTHING for her - yet she falls in love with you and sticks around you for years...

I don't agree with the anger and can't agree with the revenge, because it will always come back and kick you, but I must agree that I would have been much more successful had I been treating women like that in the past, including those high quality ones...

Most, if not all Nice Guys have been fooled by society into belief that you must be nice to her to get laid... Makes you wonder why so many Nice Guys can't not only get laid but keep that girl for more than one date...??

 

[MisterX]

You guys and you Chase seem to misunderstand what I mean by hurting girls really bad.

The third path, of revenging yourself upon innocents, leads to no victory, but only the gradual hardening of your heart and the gradual accumulation for yourself of more and more enemies, who, though they may be weaker than you, by sheer number and luck eventually find a way to revenge back upon you the injuries you have caused them in malice, and often out of proportion to the original injury, as these things fester and boil and grow the longer they are sat upon, held onto, and grown sour and vengeful over.

I'm not stupid to do it in a way that's obvious that i'm an asshole. This way she's just go in auto-rejection and start hating my guts.
What I'm talking about is more covert, not being a complete asshole. Making it seem that I'm not trying to hurt her and I do care for her, but some circumstances prevent us from being together, or something about me being hurt really bad in the past and promising to never let it happen again (which is actually true).
This way rather than going into auto-rejection and hating me, she'll still have feelings of me, wanting to be with me, and staying up late crying because something is preventing us from being together.



As to the guy who said he'd do anything to be in my place: I've never wanted to have casual sex. I've always wanted a relationship with a nice girl that loves me and cares for me.

But that never happened. The thing is I got great at one night stands and hurting girls. But I never let one in so we could be together. I just can't let a girl have the power to hurt me again like in the past.

If I could I'd give back all the girls I've been with in exchange for a nice and loving girlfriend. But I guess I'll never see that side in women. I'll always see them as empty non-humans, because that's all they've been to me.


That's the thing I don't know if just the girls I've been with are like this, but they are so boring - no brain, no intelligence, no hobbies other than going out and clothes..
No interest in science, astronomy, technology, movies, playing music.
I've always and only experienced and met girls who talk about clothes and the latest celebrity gossip, and superficial stuff. Tens of girls like this. Not on girl that I'd think "whoa this is an actual person and not just a walking vagina"

So I just feel like those fun, intelligent girls that have a personality are just something in movies and books.




So if I can't have a relationship with a nice, loving intelligent girl, I can at least make sure I fuck up my life and everyone elses. I've talked about how really self-destructive I am, and how I crashed on my bike and almost died a few months ago, and why I haven't been on the boards the past months.

I don't see why nexus, would want to be me. What does it matter if I'm sleeping with girls, if I have nothing and no one to live for. I'm not going to commit suicide but I really don't care about what happens to me and if I live or die. And probably that's why I'm so self-destructive.
Who knows. I feel like I'm really messed up in the head and the advice just let it go, won't work on me.

 

[trashKENNUT]

MisterX,

I noted something. I think some of the guys have this too. It's something like having an alter ego and being, knowing yourself.

MisterX seems to need to turn on "a character", an alter ego if he wants to get girls. At the same time, because of this alter ego, he also cannot have genuine connections with women, whether the reason is because of the past or MisterX has reach a point where his awareness is more than his compassion.

I think it's a matter of balancing both.

Like for me, i like being friendly with everyone but i have a hard time needing to separate things when i needed the serious stuff, like business or projects. So i needed to learn how to separate stuff. Perhaps MisterX is more to giving a slightly more empathy, treating girls slightly like charity. While for me, it's more of slight assertiveness.

Chase, i notice this. It's more of a black and white think vs compassion. A man is aware how women is like versus feeling compassion. The need to balance this two.

Zac

 

[Chase]

I'm not stupid to do it in a way that's obvious that i'm an asshole. This way she's just go in auto-rejection and start hating my guts.
What I'm talking about is more covert, not being a complete asshole. Making it seem that I'm not trying to hurt her and I do care for her, but some circumstances prevent us from being together, or something about me being hurt really bad in the past and promising to never let it happen again (which is actually true).
This way rather than going into auto-rejection and hating me, she'll still have feelings of me, wanting to be with me, and staying up late crying because something is preventing us from being together.

In this case, you're fine, so long as you make it clear from the beginning that those circumstances are the case. Then you're forging expectations properly, and this is the same thing I do as well (even with girls I want as girlfriends - I want her going in with low / no expectations at the outset).

This is the proper and optimal way to run fast pickups - being the sexy but untamable man who is her dream guy that she can never tie down... but still can enjoy, if only for a brief moment. This is one of the main things that sets you apart as an ideal Byronic hero straight out of the pages of one of her romance novels.

As to the guy who said he'd do anything to be in my place: I've never wanted to have casual sex. I've always wanted a relationship with a nice girl that loves me and cares for me.

But that never happened. The thing is I got great at one night stands and hurting girls. But I never let one in so we could be together. I just can't let a girl have the power to hurt me again like in the past.

If I could I'd give back all the girls I've been with in exchange for a nice and loving girlfriend. But I guess I'll never see that side in women. I'll always see them as empty non-humans, because that's all they've been to me.


That's the thing I don't know if just the girls I've been with are like this, but they are so boring - no brain, no intelligence, no hobbies other than going out and clothes..
No interest in science, astronomy, technology, movies, playing music.
I've always and only experienced and met girls who talk about clothes and the latest celebrity gossip, and superficial stuff. Tens of girls like this. Not on girl that I'd think "whoa this is an actual person and not just a walking vagina"

So I just feel like those fun, intelligent girls that have a personality are just something in movies and books.

I've never dated a girl like the kind it sounds like you're ending up in relationships with, personally. Slept with plenty of them, yeah, but they don't make it past two rolls in the hay with me, max. Most of my girlfriends have been interested in science, philosophy, technology, history, etc. Maybe that's because I screen exclusively for girls with masters, though. I can certainly imagine what a headache it'd be to date a flighty gossip girl... actually, I had an ex who moved in this direction during the twilight of our relationship, and I distinctly remember telling her while we parted ways that, "If you'd been this way when I met you, we'd never have dated." (that was a mishandled breakup when I was young and inexperienced though, and I'm 95% certain she was doing it largely to "rebel" against me and make me sorry)

Sounds like your biggest issue, X, is that you're needy enough for love right now that you're willing to compromise on your standards, but in compromising you're welcoming into your life women who are not a good match.

It also sounds like your game and your preferences are mismatched. However you've developed your SNL game, you've developed it to pick up girls that are not your "type".

I had a mini-crisis like this some years back, before I hit absolute abundance. I was sleeping with all these girls who were totally not relationship material, and I started feeling desperate about meeting high caliber women. I'd recently broken up with a great girlfriend and was feeling like I'd never find another one.

In that case, the city I was in was actually a major part of the problem - it's just extremely difficult to meet educated, ambitious people in general in San Diego, since the region tends to attract laid back, chill, party people, who deprioritize education and ambition, opting for fun and pleasure and hedonism instead (I was probably also partying way too much... lots of nightclubs, lots of drinking, lots of bars, some raves, etc. Not much day game because you go everywhere in car anyway in California. So all I was meeting were party girls).

The instant I hit absolute abundance and found that I could find great girlfriends extremely reliably, both a.) my neediness for a relationship, and b.) my love/hate relationship with party girls instantly vanished and have never returned. These days I very much enjoy casual flings with party girls (whereas I used to just view it as training/practice), and value my bachelorhood during the rare interval when I find myself 100% single.

So if I can't have a relationship with a nice, loving intelligent girl, I can at least make sure I fuck up my life and everyone elses. I've talked about how really self-destructive I am, and how I crashed on my bike and almost died a few months ago, and why I haven't been on the boards the past months.

I realize you want attention/help, but not a good way to go about getting it. More constructive: "Okay, what I'm doing has not brought what I want into my life. I'm succeeding with women, but not the RIGHT women. Why -- and what must I change?"

I don't see why nexus, would want to be me. What does it matter if I'm sleeping with girls, if I have nothing and no one to live for. I'm not going to commit suicide but I really don't care about what happens to me and if I live or die. And probably that's why I'm so self-destructive.
Who knows. I feel like I'm really messed up in the head and the advice just let it go, won't work on me.

A drowning swimmer who stops and assess his situation and examines his options carefully is a lot more likely to figure out a way to survive than one who starts flailing about and "climbing the ladder" (drowning, panicking swimmers start making a motion as if they are trying to climb a ladder... which invariably only makes them drown faster).

Likewise, someone freezing to death is better served trying to figure out a way to get warm again than he is by descending into mad stripping and naked terminal burrowing.

Your solution is simpler than you think it is. You're meeting the wrong women. Where can you meet the RIGHT ones... and what do you need to change about YOURSELF and YOUR GAME to get them?

Chase

 

[themainattraction]

You never let one in so you won't be hurt again like in the past.

I'm with you man. I was the nice guy my whole life and insanely romantic. I got heartbroken time after time, until one time I couldn't just get over it and stumbled into depression, and that's when I changed. I lost my romantic way for a couple of years. I just didn't care about love and relationships anymore (ironically, I was in a relationship for some of that time. Its downfall was me not caring). Its not that I chose not to care, I just couldn't. It seems like you can still choose to live a romantic and love-filled life but are afraid. Don't take the power of choosing for granted.
Fortunately I returned to my romantic state after those couple years. I've had my hookups here and there but like you, I just want a nice girlfriend. Now I'm still kind of afraid to take risks again but I'm working on it.

The thing is, thinking back to how I got my first girlfriend....I was vulnerable as hell. Completely open, completely honest. Pretty much did the opposite of what this site says, in every way. Granted, it was high school

How me and some girl in college would have been perfect but she went to go study abroad for a year and it just couldn't happen...it was because she loved my cheesy romanticism. Again, I didn't try to play cool or aloof or anything.

How a girl nearly fell in love with me in only a couple of weeks during college. She said she knew she felt something for me the first day she spoke to me, when I was open and honest enough to talk about how girls from the past hurt me and made me cry.

How my most recent ex fell for me... She liked me as a friend first and had no interest. But we talked about our lives, our families, our dreams for hours every night. We talked about our past relationships. She said I sounded like an amazing guy for how much I put myself out there for the girls from the past. And I still consider her the most beautiful girl I've ever seen or met, inside and out (and I'm Fuckin stupid for pushing her away)

And just in case everyone was wondering, yes I slept with them all except one, who was a virgin and on her period the night before she left.

And finally, the most recent one. One of the most beautiful girls I've ever met. Witty, funny, and a musician. How did it end up that she became so attracted to me that she made the first attempt to kiss me? We were best friends for two months first. We knew each other incredibly well and I was so comfortable around her, I was purely myself. And myself included charming, dorky, goofy, and vulnerable. We texted hundreds of times per day. Definitely not what the site recommends. That didn't work out because I became needy, and there is a clear distinction between vulnerable and needy.

Did I try to have sex with them on the first date? Was I framing everything sexually? Did i see them as purely objects to be conquered? Not even close. I was much more interested in finding out who they were. I was funny, kind, good ol' me. And I guess it worked.

Im trying to show you that everything doesn't have to be one way. Will i have kept all the lost relationships had i followed this site? Who knows. All I know is that I wouldn't have been as open, as emotional, and that there isnt a single way to do everything with girls. You can be open and vulnerable and some girls will appreciate that. Will it work all the time? Hell no. There was one girl that after a year and something I put myself out there for her and she left me in the dust. A couple of the girls I mentioned left me because of circumstances or I became too needy. And the other couple...well...I pushed them away. And it all hurt like hell, and a lot of stuff from the past still hurts like hell.

But pain isn't meant to last forever. And if you're not willing to risk your heart and open up to anyone, how the hell do you expect to love and be loved? Sure, you'll make girls want you and lust for you and think about you if you act a certain way. But you're sadly mistaken if you think that's how they'll love you. They'll barely even know you if you can never open up.

I think one of the things the site has taught me above all else is to take risks. So why not takes risks with your heart again. It might be worth it in the long run.

In my experience with love, the objective was never to get laid. The objective was always to make each other happy, love each others' company, and be kind to each other. That proved to be enough.

But who knows, maybe I got lucky. That was my way of doing things, it doesn't have to be yours.

I wish you the best

 

[lux7]

BS, I don't even believe you are much successful with that mentality.

And I'm not even sure if someone who wants to go around doling out as much pain as he can is deserving of being supported.

 

[sneaky_charm]

I have only one word for ya......"THIS":

https://www.girlschase.com/content/most- ... -be-bitter

Also, from the same article, a quote:

"And so most bitter guys, I find, tend to end up with bitter girls -- thus preserving their own bitterness."

 

[Franco]

Gentlemen,

This thread was written several months ago and has since been resolved (and I believe MisterX posted this at a rather low point one night and no longer feels this way). There is no reason to necromancer this thread. Thread locked.

Thanks,

Franco