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My second night out with @Prometeo. I lost the kiss momentum. Need help

Mr. Slick

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This is my second field report.

Tonight, I went out again with @Prometeo . An interesting night with lessons—though I’m left with a bittersweet feeling and some disappointment.




Venue 1: Bar-Club Mix – Warm-Up and Calibration


We started at a hybrid venue—part bar, part club. The vibe was chill enough to talk without shouting, making it great for opening sets. Plenty of girls aged between 22–27, plus a big birthday group celebrating their 30s.


Soft Start – Calibration


I opened a group of two guys and one girl, just to loosen up and calibrate. I asked them about good spots to go later. The girl responded warmly, was polite and open, though the guys mostly ignored me. No big deal—just wanted to break the ice.


Went to the bathroom, and when I came back, Prometheus was already in set with a guy and a girl. I tried to join, but the girl quickly left with a friend, so we were left talking to the guy. Not much to salvage there.




First Real Hook: Emotional Engagement


Then Prometheus opens a pair of pretty solid girls with a casual, playful question:


“Would you date a guy who’s friends with his ex?”

Within a minute, the girls are emotionally invested in the convo. I was surprised at how fast the hook happened. Prometheus focused on one, I spoke with the other. It was a light, pleasant conversation, but nothing really noteworthy. Eventually, their friends showed up and the set fizzled out.




Bathroom Flirtation: Spontaneous Play


Before we left the venue, I headed to the bathroom. On the way, I ran into two very cute 22-year-old girls entering as well. I said:


“Wow, what a pair of sexy guys... don’t take it out just yet.”

They laughed—it landed well. As I left, I ran into one of them again, she smiled brightly at me. I teased her:


“I saw it already.”

She laughed again. Good vibes. We moved on to the next spot.




Venue 2: Nightclub – The Venezuelan Girl


We arrive at the second club. Not even 5 seconds in, and I catch eyes with a Venezuelan girl giving me a deep, locked gaze. I walk up straight away and say:


“I hate you.”

She looks surprised.


“Because we hadn’t met earlier.”

She laughs. We start talking. She’s from Venezuela, I tell her I love that, and that I’m from [X]. Connection sparks immediately. She’s been living here for two years and works at a perfume store.


I ask her to recommend me a scent. Then I ask her to smell mine—she leans in, does it, and says she likes it. She tries to guess the scent; and fails the first time but gets it on the second. It’s fun, playful. Lots of eye contact. Smiles. Banter. I’m loving it.




Strong Signals – Missed Window


She starts getting really receptive—strong kino, and she’s totally okay with it, maybe even enjoying it. Constant light touching, lots of playful teasing. Then that moment comes—she stares into my eyes, unblinking, deep, warm, almost puppy-like. I hold the gaze. I'm watching her lips every time we speak. She doesn’t back off.


But I stall.


Like an idiot, I ask her if she dances. I ask if she prefers bachata or merengue. She says bachata. I say, “We’ll dance later.”


Then I start monologuing like a fool:
I tell her I don’t use Instagram, that I prefer meeting people in real life, that this is how I get to know someone to see if there’s real connection. I tell her I just wanted to talk to her, naturally.




Like an idiot, I ask her if she dances. I ask if she prefers bachata or merengue. She says bachata. I say, “We’ll dance later.”


Then I start monologuing like a fool:
I tell her I don’t use Instagram, that I prefer meeting people in real life, that this is how I get to know someone to see if there’s real connection. I tell her I just wanted to talk to her, naturally.


She tells me "You're such a smooth talker"


I say:


“It’s just because you're the right girl.” (I surprised myself with that response — no doubt I'm going to use it again in the future).

She gives me those puppy eyes again...
And again—I hesitate.




The Moment I Blew It


A few minutes later, with the energy dropping, I finally go for the kiss.


She turns her face, gives me her cheek.


Then she says:


“I think it’s too soon. We’ve only been talking for 5–10 minutes.”

I try to play it cool and keep the conversation going. Ask where she lives. Try to ease the tension. But the flow is broken.


To save the vibe, I go for a “psychological game”:
A visualization story—walking through a field, seeing a house, describing the door, etc.


She starts disengaging. She’s no longer present. Silence settles.


She doesn’t walk away... but she’s clearly uncomfortable.


I try to break the awkwardness:


“Do you want to go find your brother?”

And that’s it. She leaves.

Final Thoughts: Analysis Needed


I’m here mainly to get your thoughts on the last interaction with the Venezuelan girl.


  • Should a kiss be asked for or just given?
  • Is it all about the momentum?
  • Do I need to build more trust, even in a nightclub setting?

She clearly distanced herself from her brother to keep talking to me. She seemed interested. Even during lulls in the conversation, she would fill the silence, but still refused me; i think that for having lost the momentum... I really appreciate any advice you guys can give.
 
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Why you did not took her for dance and decided to go for the visulisation instead?

Does not goes with the venue.

Failed kiss is no big deal as long as she stays in the set.
 

Prometeo

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Experience at the first bar mentioned by Mr. Slick

First interaction: girl + guy



I saw a girl who had already looked at me several times, so I decided to approach her and the guy she was talking to. I started with a neutral opener:


“Hey, I saw you two talking and thought it looked interesting. Mind if I join?”

They welcomed me in, but the conversation was about work, and I couldn’t find a way to contribute anything interesting or relevant. I wanted to avoid coming off as too intrusive or making the guy uncomfortable — they didn’t seem like a couple, but I also didn’t want it to be obvious that I was only addressing her.


In the end, I came off too neutral. The girl gradually lost interest and drifted away. I wasn’t pushy or needy, just too inert. What I lacked was emotional connection and spark from the start.




Second interaction: two very attractive girls


Later on, I approached two very attractive girls. This was a personal milestone for me — I had never dared to open girls who intimidated me physically.


I started with a fun dilemma:


“Would you date a guy who still keeps pictures of his ex at home?”

It sparked a lively conversation with a playful and light-hearted vibe.
With one of them, I suggested a little psychological game involving a visualization exercise, which caught her interest and helped create a bit of connection.


We also talked about whether they would be okay dating someone who goes out dancing with other girls every weekend. One of them immediately said: “Absolutely not.”




When the group dynamic changed


In the middle of all this, a guy showed up. I thought he might be dating one of the girls I was talking to, but it turned out he was with another girl in the group. Still, he stepped in between us several times, disrupting the dynamic and frame. I didn’t know how to handle it or how to get the rhythm back.


I tried to go with the flow and connect with the rest of the group without focusing too much on the two girls, but the spark from earlier faded.


One of the girls, the one I had felt the strongest connection with, kept looking at me while chatting with another guy. I sensed she was still interested, but I didn’t know how to reconnect with her without making it seem like I was chasing her around. I didn’t want to come off as following her above everyone else.




Light and fun ending


Still, I chatted with several people in the group naturally. I wasn’t leading the conversation, but I felt relaxed and socially fluid.
When I said goodbye to one of the girls, I told her:


“I’m not going to give you two kisses, I’m all sweaty.”

She smiled and replied:


“Then give me your hand.”

We ended up trying to guess each other’s names, and I closed with:


“You’ll have to keep wondering.”

It was a fun and playful exit.




A few questions I’d love feedback on:


1. First group (girl + guy):



  • How could I have built stronger emotional connection with the girl, given how neutral I was being?
  • What kind of energy or contribution can spark interest without it seeming like you're hitting on her — especially when there's another guy present?

2. Second group (two girls, later expanded group):


  • When the group dynamic breaks the initial one-on-one vibe, how can you re-establish that connection with someone without coming off too obvious or needy?
  • How do you gently refocus attention without forcing it?

I'd really appreciate any insights or similar experiences you’d like to share. Thanks in advance!
 
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Skills

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This is my second field report.

Tonight, I went out again with @Prometeo . An interesting night with lessons—though I’m left with a bittersweet feeling and some disappointment.




Venue 1: Bar-Club Mix – Warm-Up and Calibration


We started at a hybrid venue—part bar, part club. The vibe was chill enough to talk without shouting, making it great for opening sets. Plenty of girls aged between 22–27, plus a big birthday group celebrating their 30s.


Soft Start – Calibration


I opened a group of two guys and one girl, just to loosen up and calibrate. I asked them about good spots to go later. The girl responded warmly, was polite and open, though the guys mostly ignored me. No big deal—just wanted to break the ice.


Went to the bathroom, and when I came back, Prometheus was already in set with a guy and a girl. I tried to join, but the girl quickly left with a friend, so we were left talking to the guy. Not much to salvage there.




First Real Hook: Emotional Engagement


Then Prometheus opens a pair of pretty solid girls with a casual, playful question:




Within a minute, the girls are emotionally invested in the convo. I was surprised at how fast the hook happened. Prometheus focused on one, I spoke with the other. It was a light, pleasant conversation, but nothing really noteworthy. Eventually, their friends showed up and the set fizzled out.




Bathroom Flirtation: Spontaneous Play


Before we left the venue, I headed to the bathroom. On the way, I ran into two very cute 22-year-old girls entering as well. I said:




They laughed—it landed well. As I left, I ran into one of them again, she smiled brightly at me. I teased her:




She laughed again. Good vibes. We moved on to the next spot.




Venue 2: Nightclub – The Venezuelan Girl


We arrive at the second club. Not even 5 seconds in, and I catch eyes with a Venezuelan girl giving me a deep, locked gaze. I walk up straight away and say:




She looks surprised.




She laughs. We start talking. She’s from Venezuela, I tell her I love that, and that I’m from [X]. Connection sparks immediately. She’s been living here for two years and works at a perfume store.


I ask her to recommend me a scent. Then I ask her to smell mine—she leans in, does it, and says she likes it. She tries to guess the scent; and fails the first time but gets it on the second. It’s fun, playful. Lots of eye contact. Smiles. Banter. I’m loving it.




Strong Signals – Missed Window


She starts getting really receptive—strong kino, and she’s totally okay with it, maybe even enjoying it. Constant light touching, lots of playful teasing. Then that moment comes—she stares into my eyes, unblinking, deep, warm, almost puppy-like. I hold the gaze. I'm watching her lips every time we speak. She doesn’t back off.


But I stall.


Like an idiot, I ask her if she dances. I ask if she prefers bachata or merengue. She says bachata. I say, “We’ll dance later.”


Then I start monologuing like a fool:
I tell her I don’t use Instagram, that I prefer meeting people in real life, that this is how I get to know someone to see if there’s real connection. I tell her I just wanted to talk to her, naturally.




Like an idiot, I ask her if she dances. I ask if she prefers bachata or merengue. She says bachata. I say, “We’ll dance later.”


Then I start monologuing like a fool:
I tell her I don’t use Instagram, that I prefer meeting people in real life, that this is how I get to know someone to see if there’s real connection. I tell her I just wanted to talk to her, naturally.


She tells me "You're such a smooth talker"


I say:




She gives me those puppy eyes again...
And again—I hesitate.




The Moment I Blew It


A few minutes later, with the energy dropping, I finally go for the kiss.


She turns her face, gives me her cheek.


Then she says:




I try to play it cool and keep the conversation going. Ask where she lives. Try to ease the tension. But the flow is broken.


To save the vibe, I go for a “psychological game”:
A visualization story—walking through a field, seeing a house, describing the door, etc.


She starts disengaging. She’s no longer present. Silence settles.


She doesn’t walk away... but she’s clearly uncomfortable.


I try to break the awkwardness:




And that’s it. She leaves.

Final Thoughts: Analysis Needed


I’m here mainly to get your thoughts on the last interaction with the Venezuelan girl.


  • Should a kiss be asked for or just given?
  • Is it all about the momentum?
  • Do I need to build more trust, even in a nightclub setting?

She clearly distanced herself from her brother to keep talking to me. She seemed interested. Even during lulls in the conversation, she would fill the silence, but still refused me; i think that for having lost the momentum... I really appreciate any advice you guys can give.

You feel uncomfortable with tension, and you get nervous and anxious, that is why you start talking read this couple of times please thank me later




also when women say, "we just met" "but i just met you" "but i don't know you" in these cases is were you employee the autobiography technique:

"for example i would have said, you are from caracas venezuela, you love bachata, you........ and then you end and you have crush on slick, and in the future you will fall madly in love with him...

 

Mr. Slick

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Why you did not took her for dance and decided to go for the visulisation instead?

Does not goes with the venue.

Failed kiss is no big deal as long as she stays in the set.
Thank you for the comment, Empath. The truth is, I feel a bit embarrassed. It didn’t make any sense — the thing is, I was just too shy to dance with her.
 
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Mr. Slick

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You feel uncomfortable with tension, and you get nervous and anxious, that is why you start talking read this couple of times please thank me later




also when women say, "we just met" "but i just met you" "but i don't know you" in these cases is were you employee the autobiography technique:

"for example i would have said, you are from caracas venezuela, you love bachata, you........ and then you end and you have crush on slick, and in the future you will fall madly in love with him...

Thank you so much, Skills, for the material. I’ve read it a couple of times and it’s opened up a new perspective on kino for me. About the situation — the thing is, I was practically glued to her with how close we were. I looked at her with intent, I used kino by touching her near the upper part of her chest, kind of poking her with my index finger, as if scolding a child. Maybe I should’ve stopped talking or grabbed her hand instead before for ensuring the final kiss... The autobiographical tactic sounds awesome — really looking forward to trying it out on the field 🔥
 
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