Need game advice on a girl

[kingsnorter]

Need some objective opinions here on what members think is going on and how they think I should deal with this.

Basically it went like this
-Girl seemed interested, would literally just stand or sit there and stare at me
-She tried talking to me, but I basically ignored gave her like one word answer suggesting I didn't give a shit, because she wasn't my type at first (and kind of caught me off guard with a weird question)
-I basically changed my mind
-She was still interested obviously by body language
-Talked to her b/c she clearly wanted me to approach by the way she was sitting, all seemed to go well
-Saw her later and she acts all weird
-Ie. she literally is standing 3 feet away from me, just staring at me while I am talking to co-worker for like literally 2 minutes. I look at her and say hi, and she just barely responds and walks away
-Girl is generally unresponsive to game. Her dad still drives her everywhere and I know game works best on girls with asshole fathers or no fathers or generally daddy issues which she doesn't seem to have. Any setup posed to her, she answers with an off topic answer.
-only got a few more weeks left at this work place (its closing down). I am debating in my head what to do. I sent her a text, gave her a call (no message) during shut down time which is about a month long but never heard back from her. She claimed she was out of town and changed sim cards when I asked her if she got my text. --- but never send a text apologizing or nothing (which is pretty norm in the past from girls, but then I have to weigh her navietie and inexperience and cultural difference into it). Which makes it very hard for me to know whats going on here.===she's all asian and stuff.

-Don't have this problem gaming other girls in the workplace.
-I can't tell if she is trying to brush me off gently or is not interested or is playing some hard to get type game or is just very naive and unaware of what she is doing.
- I catch her checking me out basically every time I see her at work, and one time a few days ago it was very blatantly obvious so I decide to act on it.
I even notice she was mirroring my body language before I was even talking to her and continued to do so after I did. When we were having discussion with another colleague, 3 way conversation.

I talk to her after work same day. She showing me IOI. I ask her to show me a dance and she does it, she ask me a few questions and gets excited when I tell her where I went. I told her I'll show her some dancing later, she said sounds good (or soemthing like that but seemed interested). Next day I see her before work and I ask her come lets go dance and says she's tired and hadn't eat nothing all day and on lunch goes out with (female) coworker to get coffee.


-texted her on the friday to come out on the saturday. When I called her on saturday, claimed she didn't get my text. It also sounded like she hanged up when I first called, but she didn't. When I called her , gave only short yes no answers and after about 30 seconds when I asked her if she didn't get my text or just didn't text, said she had to go and didn't call back. Claimed she was at a friends house despite previously telling me she had no friends or just one. (although I could her loud asian talking in the background but frequently goes to family parties). I only pursued because when I ask her if she wanted to hang out, she paused and said yes.... She gave me her number, took my phone and sent me two text messages to ensure I got it and added herself as a context in it and everything. But comes from a culture where women are known for playing hard to get when interested. As in will pretend to not be interested or pull away from the man at the wedding where they say you may now kiss the bride.

-Is this payback for me not saying bye to her after the first convo or ignoring her at first? Like "well if he is gonna play games so am I"? Or is this some kind of new sick twisted game to fuck with men's heads?
-Frankly I never encounter this problem, usually everything goes pretty smooth from approach right up to bang. I don't bed every girl, but if it does fall apart if falls apart on escalation sexual. Ie. I rub my hand up leg and she says no in some convoluted way and I move on.


- At this point I may just experiment to see how she reacts to various games if all is lost, so I can see what works and doesn't work for future cases.

-Honestly wtf is going on here. I never even like this girl to begin with, she was not the type I'd usually go for, I didn't even notice her until she just sit there and stare at me and talk to me, I just decide if she is going to stare at me all day she is probably easy, so might as well take the low hanging fruit and fuck her. Now I go to make the move after she led me on and it seems like she is giving me a hard time. Is this some kind of revenge to get back at me or soemthing for ignoring her at first? Or is it just the case where don't strike quickly enough girl lose interest? or what do you think?

Sorry for the overly long post, would appreciate breakdown of what you all think went wrong, so I can at least correct for future. I'd game more girls but right now my mind is a bit bitter and I think it will spill over into any new interactions with any new girls so I might be best to not game for a while and focus on other shit for a month or two.

Serious answers only please.

 

[ray_zorse]

Some girls are just weird and it def sounds like she is fucking with you or playing some weird hard-to-get game?

The only other solution I can think of is maybe you moved too slow / didn't reward her initial investment enough and she auto rejected but continued gaming you out of habit, boredom or not wanting to come out and say she changed her mind?

Anyway it's the girls you weren't attracted to initially that cause the biggest headfuck, whatever she did to turn around this lack of attraction it is pure evil, I say this from bitter experience...

TBH it's debatable whether you could have done anything differently at least initially, but the way you've reacted to her indifference / mixed signals / push-pull is very chasey and unattractive.

If she doesn't respond to a text or similar, punish her with 10 days radio silence (or not acknowledging her presence if you're in a workplace). Re engage her then if you must, but on a different topic... do not refer to the text, that communicates extreme neediness.

Think of it from her point of view, she's read your text and either it wasn't a question or it didn't seem to require an immediate response or she felt awkward and wanted to consider her response (a polite refusal that would keep you as orbiter and give false hope)... she's thought "oh I must respond soon" and it's then just faded into the background of other unfinished, less important tasks... but if it was important to you then that puts you firmly in chasing position.

As to the other stuff you reported (her going for coffee instead of lunch with you, etc)... similar kind of reasoning applies, you've responded to brush offs with attention and chasing.

I'd say it's a lost cause, though you never know (see Ktowndub's story...). Remember at any time she can give you a clear signal "I'm free tomorrow, let's hangout" and this is what she would do if genuinely attracted and not playing games. Until that happens don't acknowledge her, withhold EC... etc.

-Ray

 

[kingsnorter]

Some girls are just weird and it def sounds like she is fucking with you or playing some weird hard-to-get game?

The only other solution I can think of is maybe you moved too slow / didn't reward her initial investment enough and she auto rejected but continued gaming you out of habit, boredom or not wanting to come out and say she changed her mind?

Anyway it's the girls you weren't attracted to initially that cause the biggest headfuck, whatever she did to turn around this lack of attraction it is pure evil, I say this from bitter experience...

TBH it's debatable whether you could have done anything differently at least initially, but the way you've reacted to her indifference / mixed signals / push-pull is very chasey and unattractive.

If she doesn't respond to a text or similar, punish her with 10 days radio silence (or not acknowledging her presence if you're in a workplace). Re engage her then if you must, but on a different topic... do not refer to the text, that communicates extreme neediness.

Think of it from her point of view, she's read your text and either it wasn't a question or it didn't seem to require an immediate response or she felt awkward and wanted to consider her response (a polite refusal that would keep you as orbiter and give false hope)... she's thought "oh I must respond soon" and it's then just faded into the background of other unfinished, less important tasks... but if it was important to you then that puts you firmly in chasing position.

As to the other stuff you reported (her going for coffee instead of lunch with you, etc)... similar kind of reasoning applies, you've responded to brush offs with attention and chasing.

I'd say it's a lost cause, though you never know (see Ktowndub's story...). Remember at any time she can give you a clear signal "I'm free tomorrow, let's hangout" and this is what she would do if genuinely attracted and not playing games. Until that happens don't acknowledge her, withhold EC... etc.

-Ray

Yes she definetly is weird, no doubt there. Her opener to me was very weird and frankly I felt insulting. Which is why I pretty much ignored her from the on set.
Today, I basically ignored her and didn't look in her direction all day, but not for her walking infront of me, I'd have no clue what she wore, and had no clue what her face looked like that day.

Now my text definetly had a question and question mark, it asked if she was coming. Called her and claimed she never got the text, but gave only one word answers, with no follow up explanation. I realized she is a cunt, I am just going to ignore her until this place closes down and pretend like she never existed. In 2-3 months I'll hardly remember her face. I just want an analysis of what is going on here, it was very unusual situation (me rejecting a girl, then turning around and changing my mind) and I don't usually need game advice. But I thank you for taking the time to give honest input.

What she did to turn around the lack of attraction, well basically she kept sitting near me but sitting in ways it was obvious that she wanted to be talked to. So I figured well if she is SOOOO determined its a low hanging fruit. After I talk to her then I figure o she not's so bad, to hey she is kinda hot.

Do you have a link to ktowndub's story?

Withold ec..... What is Ec?

 

[ray_zorse]

Yeah although she actually got you frustrated and chasing (through her bad behaviour... which lends a perspective as to why girls go for assholes instead of nice guys... cos they get frustrated and start chasing as a result)... so the "low hanging fruit" theory obviously got lost somewhere along the way... don't worry though it's happened to me and I got hooked badly.

As to the texting I forgot to say she is Asian (Chinese is my guess) so saving face is more important than being honest, that's why she lied that she didn't receive the text, she didn't think she was disrespecting you by being dishonest, she thought she was respecting you by having it appear on the surface that you might be important to her and thus letting you save face, while you both knew that in reality she couldn't give a fuck about your text and hadn't got around to responding. In her culture both parties would privately note the reality of the situation and continue accordingly while publicly going along with the bullshit to add the necessary social grease.

Ktowndub's story: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?t=8983

EC=eye contact

Yeah I would just NEXT her at this point, she's obnoxious.

-Ray

 

[kingsnorter]

is there a particular post in ktowndub thread you want me to check out? Also how do I get over the fact, that I still think she is hot?