Night game just isn't for me

[SillyCarl]

I'm not a person who gives up on things or who gets depressed over things but night game got me on a whole new level of depression. To be specific night clubs.

I'm throwing in the towel for night game. I honestly don't want to but a man is struggling honestly, it's weird because for daygame I'm cleaning the streets with women but night game just ain't happening. My ego can't take anymore, and it's not like I haven't tried I've been at it, going out taking action. Maybe it's my location but fuck that, there's people having success here so I dont know. I'm sticking to daygame and house parties, clubs are just not cut out for me. I'm writing this because i feel its necessary for me to vent this somewhere, honestly I'm sorry if this is negative. I know having a positive attitude is necessary for success but I can't anymore. I've read chases articles on nightgame but it ain't cutting it, I feel like a bitch writing this post honestly but it's something that had to be done. I think changing locations is my best bet, maybe LA ? But for now night game is over for me, I can't keep feeling this way after night outs honestly it's ruining my vibe and flow as well as my daygame adventures.

 

[PrettyDecent]

SillyCarl,

I feel you. Even when I was starting to get success in daygame, nightgame felt totally out of reach.

Either way, you're going to find a mix of better quality girls in the day.

That feeling of "I can't do this, I'm throwing in the towel", is actually you growing. You become more socially attuned as you have to pick up signals and behave differently than you need to during the day. Clubs specifically are difficult, for sure. But there's no doubt if you stick with it, you're going to be a much, much better daygamer for it. Field-tested

Nick

 

[Smurf]

Can relate to this 100%.

I started out doing daygame and it was awesome. Girls were receptive, it was fun, all around blast. I went to a nightclub to try this "nightgame" stuff out. I almost went home crying. The shit's difficult at first for sure. Loud music, people bumping into you, you don't really know what to do or where to be, and girls giving you that famous "fuck off" look. That shit was soul destroying. You just have to get used to it. I just kept going out to the clubs. At first I didn't even approach, I was just trying to get used to the whole thing. Then slowly I started approaching again. It was different. Shit that would work in the daytime would get me blown out at night. Girls seemed like they were ADHD. There were a few things I changed that might help you.

1) Go to a place where you like the music. At least at first. This helped me a ton, because when I was feeling like shit, a song I liked would come on and I'd get into a decent mood again. If they're playing shit music, on top of getting blown out, it's gonna' be a recipe for disaster. So until you at least get some good reference experiences going, try and go to a place where you don't absolutely hate what they're playing.

2) Get a wing, or friends to go out with you. As long as you're still taking action, having a "home base" is never a bad thing when you're first starting out.

3) If you start spiraling downward, or get blown out 4-5 times, you're doing something wrong. Stop and look at what you're doing and quick critique yourself and see if you can't find a remedy for the reactions. Don't get caught up so much in doing this while an interaction is going on, only when the same bad things are happening over and over again.

4) Polarize and spike. Hard. When I first started, it was hard to even get a response from girls out at night. I had to come up (and get help from GC, of course) with things that would draw attention and keep it long enough to hook the girl. Practice your verbal game, your non-verbals, and probably most importantly, work on your voice. The voice I'd use in daygame is a lot different than the one I'd use at night. At night, the goal of my voice is to be loud, distinctive, and cut through everything else going on around me.

5) Go out. A lot. It's gonna' hurt at first. Your ego is gonna' take a huge hit, especially if you're good at daygame or social circle. Your ego is gonna' be confused as to why you're getting rejected. What helped for me is to focus on what I'm doing every night out repeatedly, not so much the reactions. Reactions are important to a degree, but it's more important to know yourself and know how you can get consistency and keep yourself out of that negative haze in the club.

I hope those help, don't give up! Night game is super fun and some of the best stories come from that type of game! Keep pushing!

Jake.

 

[Ree]

I feel you..plus night game is also time wasting dangerous and expensive

 

[SillyCarl]

Honestly I'm not gonna give up. Last Saturday was just so terrible that all these negative thoughts came rushing in as I got home. Thanks PrettyDecent, Slay and Jake D for the motivation, I guess I just wanted to know that i wasn't alone in my struggle.

Will definitely work on my voice Jake D, voice projection and all. I think my ultimate problem is over thinking and just not letting go in the venue, so I can have a vibe of giving not taking. And honestly I am being a bitch, no one said this shit was gonna be easy. Gotta keep the grind on a hunnid.

Carl

 

[Mr.Rob]

SillyCarl,

If you detest nightgame and it truly isn't fun for you you don't have to force yourself to do it. It is a great venue to put your social skills through the fire then come out the other end able to handle any regular social situation. If that is your goal then I'd advise you to keep grinding.

However, If you just want to meet women, bed women, and forge relationships with the greatest ease possible I'd advise you to stick to your strong suit and do the day game thing. There are plenty elite members on the boards here that never partake in nightgame and still have amazing success with women. Don't feel like you have to master nightgame.

You never actually mentioned where you're struggling when it comes to nightgame you just vented. Where exactly are you struggling? Why is that so frustrating for you?

-Rob

 

[Raqimus]

With night game its all about enjoying yourself. Take in the vibe and give people more of it, where are you having problems in night game carl?

Is it rejection? opening girls? pulling them, etc? Rob is kinda right you don't give much info to go on to get applicable info. If you've got questions feel free to ask, I'm doing decent at night game and I had hiccups at the start too

 

[SillyCarl]

SillyCarl

Honestly it's the rejection. I think I'm just not used to getting rejected, I think looking for IOIs is the solution to this ?. Also how does a successful night game pull go down for you guys ? Like from intro to conclusion, I've seen some videos on YouTube but I'm sceptical of those as there's some leaks about fake vids. Also I'm not expecting to instantly get good, I know that it's gonna take time. Just some guidance could help ease my mind.

Carl

 

[Mr.Rob]

SillyCarl,

Do you not get rejected during daygame?

IOI's could be the solution but without the reference points of what actually is and isn't an IOI you're gonna be doing a lot of standing around and waiting for the perfect moment.

Unfortunately the only way around rejection is to go through it. I don't watch much pickup stuff anymore but RSD Tyler released a video of him warming up and getting rejected a few times. I can verify that is real and not fake since my friend took a program with Tyler during the filming of the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shO5ivs_klY Notice his reaction to the brutal rejection where the girl tells him to "Fuck off". He just shrugs his shoulders, laughs a bit, and then talks to another girl.

Also how does a successful night game pull go down for you guys ? Like from intro to conclusion,

Here you go:

https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13258&p=67487&hilit=mr.rob#p67487

https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10370&p=50909&hilit=mr.rob#p50909

Go through the fire man. Let us know what other questions you have.

-Rob

 

[SillyCarl]

Yo Guys

Back at it again, I've been going out everyday, daygame during the week and night game on the weekend. On day 20 right now and I'm feeling the best, starting to see some results during nightgame. Just wanted to say thanks for the advice and encouragement it definitely helped me push through the shit. One question though, how do you text a girl properly for a meetup after you get her number at night ? Got 4 numbers last night from what I've heard girls don't text back after you get their numbers at night. So how do you guys get the girls to meet up for a date after a nightgame number close ?