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I have read online about pheromones and your body can reak of them when your desire is up.
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ocantu,
Funny you mention this, but I was talking to my roommate a few months ago about how my ability to approach women with great sexual appeal seemed to spike after going a prolonged period without having sex or masturbating. I experimented with this a bit and went out to pick up one afternoon in the summer after not "releasing" for about 10 days or so. Needless to say, I was extremely horny, but I noticed that it made me more sexually aggressive and assertive! It had been quite awhile where I was able to just look at a beautiful woman and become sexually aroused, but it certainly happened to me a few times on that outing!
If you'd like to experiment with it, then try abstaining from any sexual release for about a week or so and then go out and meet women. You'll notice that any woman who is showing a lot of curves or skin suddenly becomes very sexually enticing, and, if you have the same results as myself, you might even be much more prone to approach out of pure sexual instinct. It can definitely help you overcome some of that approach anxiety!
Anyway, just my thoughts and experience.
- Franco
Funny you mention this, but I was talking to my roommate a few months ago about how my ability to approach women with great sexual appeal seemed to spike after going a prolonged period without having sex or masturbating. I experimented with this a bit and went out to pick up one afternoon in the summer after not "releasing" for about 10 days or so. Needless to say, I was extremely horny, but I noticed that it made me more sexually aggressive and assertive! It had been quite awhile where I was able to just look at a beautiful woman and become sexually aroused, but it certainly happened to me a few times on that outing!
If you'd like to experiment with it, then try abstaining from any sexual release for about a week or so and then go out and meet women. You'll notice that any woman who is showing a lot of curves or skin suddenly becomes very sexually enticing, and, if you have the same results as myself, you might even be much more prone to approach out of pure sexual instinct. It can definitely help you overcome some of that approach anxiety!
Anyway, just my thoughts and experience.
- Franco
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Thanks Franco, I remember several years ago a girl showed great interest in me for the first time in a while and I remembered that at the time I was on a two week streak of no fap lol.
Did you feel it increased your luck franco? more looks or IOI's?
Did you feel it increased your luck franco? more looks or IOI's?
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I wouldn't say it increased my "luck" necessarily... Remember, the definition of luck is that it is a factor that is completely out of your control, so in order for something to be "lucky," it means that you did nothing to swing it in your favor and that it happened just by chance.
And I don't think it increased the amount of looks I received prior to opening a girl. That's probably a placebo effect of just being really horny! You see a girl, you want to have sex with her, you imagine yourself having sex with her, so then you interpret anything she does as something desirable to achieving that goal. However, like I mentioned, it did make me more inclined to act on my impulse to open girls who turned me on. And I think the girls did pick up on the fact that I was oozing sexuality.
It can be a good thing if a girl knows you're sexually-charged. It will cause her to become sexually-charged as well.
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This is a pretty interesting subject, and it's something I personally came across a while ago when I decided to quit watching porn after researching thoroughly how bad it is for you in more ways than can be imagined (especially for meeting and getting acquainted with REAL women!). There are quite a number of studies and articles online that assert that abstaining from masturbation builds and spikes your testosterone levels, which essentially makes you a much more sexual, horny, assertive and aggressive guy!
This is the one I found the most interesting back then, anyway:
http://themodernsavage.com/2009/02/04/e ... ing-women/
I believe there are also one or two articles about this on GC?
As for my own experience: Back then I decided to quit masturbating the same time I quit watching porn, which for me went hand in hand (LOL) so I forced myself to stop both! About thirty days later I ended up having first date sex and starting a five month long FWB with a girl I had only met two days prior at a conference. Prior to that point I had not had any kind of sexual activity in at least half a year. I guess when you force yourself to only receive satisfaction from the fairer sex and not your hands, your mindsets can change pretty dramatically. So I guess it works =)
Hope this helps!
This is the one I found the most interesting back then, anyway:
http://themodernsavage.com/2009/02/04/e ... ing-women/
I believe there are also one or two articles about this on GC?
As for my own experience: Back then I decided to quit masturbating the same time I quit watching porn, which for me went hand in hand (LOL) so I forced myself to stop both! About thirty days later I ended up having first date sex and starting a five month long FWB with a girl I had only met two days prior at a conference. Prior to that point I had not had any kind of sexual activity in at least half a year. I guess when you force yourself to only receive satisfaction from the fairer sex and not your hands, your mindsets can change pretty dramatically. So I guess it works =)
Hope this helps!
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Ozz said:
Thanks ozz! man, I have the same problem i cant go a few day without watching porn lol. I am seriously now quitting.
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ocantu1987 said:
This website is what really did it for me: http://yourbrainonporn.com/
Also, this GC article:
https://www.girlschase.com/content/break ... ls-instead
Anyway, if that's something you need advice on, feel free to PM me. It's an oddball and sensitive topic in a lot of ways, and I'll say that it's a very tough but VERY worthwhile journey to quit cold turkey.
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Thanks ozz!
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for me this is a funny one and kind of has no definite answer.
from what i understand:
porn per se - results in desensitization. as guys watch more and more porn they start to crave more hardcore shit and what not until eventually the his favorite material is some of that fucked Japanese shit (i dont speak from experience!) and a pair of tits by themselves suddenly isn't as appealing by themselves as they once were.
so i say limit porn, and when you masturbate, concentrate on using your mind for fantasy and what not if you can. nothing wrong with a bit of porn but make sure its closer to vanilla stuff and not some massive black dude fucking some chick up the ass at 5000mph with his hands around her throat, and his eyes almost popping out possessed like as though hes trying to suffocate her. yikes
masturbating - does less increase sex drive?
short term - yeh sure.
long term - i have my doubts.
its kind of a use it or lose it scenario. so if you have some dude abstain from masturbating for a whole year (as an extreme example) hes not going to become some raving sex addict, his body will adept to the lack on sensation because that's what our bodies and minds are designed to do. hes going to kill his natural sex drive by not acting upon it.
on the other hand if you have some champion masturbator who does it three times a day for a whole week and THEN goes three days with out it then yeh, hes going to be craving sexual stimulation because that's what his body is telling him he wants, because his body and mind have adapted to require regular stimulation and sexual release.
so my thoughts are masturbate, but when you know your going to go out picking up chicks one day or you have a party Saturday, go without masturbation three to five days prior so that when you go to that party you going to be one horny motherfucker, and it will show.
from what i understand:
porn per se - results in desensitization. as guys watch more and more porn they start to crave more hardcore shit and what not until eventually the his favorite material is some of that fucked Japanese shit (i dont speak from experience!) and a pair of tits by themselves suddenly isn't as appealing by themselves as they once were.
so i say limit porn, and when you masturbate, concentrate on using your mind for fantasy and what not if you can. nothing wrong with a bit of porn but make sure its closer to vanilla stuff and not some massive black dude fucking some chick up the ass at 5000mph with his hands around her throat, and his eyes almost popping out possessed like as though hes trying to suffocate her. yikes
masturbating - does less increase sex drive?
short term - yeh sure.
long term - i have my doubts.
its kind of a use it or lose it scenario. so if you have some dude abstain from masturbating for a whole year (as an extreme example) hes not going to become some raving sex addict, his body will adept to the lack on sensation because that's what our bodies and minds are designed to do. hes going to kill his natural sex drive by not acting upon it.
on the other hand if you have some champion masturbator who does it three times a day for a whole week and THEN goes three days with out it then yeh, hes going to be craving sexual stimulation because that's what his body is telling him he wants, because his body and mind have adapted to require regular stimulation and sexual release.
so my thoughts are masturbate, but when you know your going to go out picking up chicks one day or you have a party Saturday, go without masturbation three to five days prior so that when you go to that party you going to be one horny motherfucker, and it will show.
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My mental state after masturbating:
Day 0-1: Feel terrible. No mood to approach girls
Day 2-4: neutral
Day 5-7: Mood swings. Either feel like i can approach any girl i like (and actually do) or feel like a failure.
Day 8-11: Neutral
Day 12-13: Mood picking up. Becoming more assertive.
Day 14-16: Feel like i own the world. Approach anyone i want to (or just approach anyone).
Day 17+: Gradual decrease of sexual desire until the cycle begins again.
Day 0-1: Feel terrible. No mood to approach girls
Day 2-4: neutral
Day 5-7: Mood swings. Either feel like i can approach any girl i like (and actually do) or feel like a failure.
Day 8-11: Neutral
Day 12-13: Mood picking up. Becoming more assertive.
Day 14-16: Feel like i own the world. Approach anyone i want to (or just approach anyone).
Day 17+: Gradual decrease of sexual desire until the cycle begins again.
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1week without fap and today I approached two girls. I think because of my higher sex drive I am approaching more
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I noticed the same thing. I quit masturbation and porn and I noticed an increase in attraction. Girls are now trying to start conversations with me, it also makes me more dominate and aggressive. Now I look at masturbation and watching porn a complete waste of time. All these years i've been masturbating, wasting my sexual energy on a screen while there are horny wet girls all around me waiting to get fucked.
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157 pages of people's experiences seem to think so...
http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/0.BENEFITS.pdf
http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/0.BENEFITS.pdf
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This is really interesting guys! My first time wanking was when I was 20, so I spent a lot of time being horny before. I was extremely competitive and very focused, but I did also have other emotional problems (depression, OCD, extreme introversion, etc). (I grew up in a very conservative environment, so it wasn't really my choice, I was guilt-ed into thinking all sexuality was evil. Plus, I was really embarrassed once when I came unintentionally in public...) Anyway, I realized recently that I really miss being horny! I was in a relationship with a woman at her peak, and we had sex more often than I would in 'equilibrium.' Most of the time, she had to rub me to get me turned on, because I just wasn't up to the task otherwise. I felt like I was missing something, and after some consideration, I realized I was missing sexual tension. Since we broke up, I've really been trying to limit my wanking, and I agree: I feel like I have more focus (on any task, not just wooing ladies) and more energy. I'm not letting myself get to the point of jizzing my pants, mind you, but I feel like going for two weeks or more is totally doable, and desirable.
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Yeah very interesting question!
Early June, I came across a website describing porn addiction, its detrimental effects on behavior and relationships, and benefits of nofap, and decided to try it immediately. On the first couple of weeks I experienced the loss of libido, but after that I felt my drive, assertiveness and aggressiveness greatly increased... even at work where I was much more pro-active and assertive. I had more energy, felt less tired, and started plenty of new activities. My voice also started to change and become deeper. I was becoming horny very easily watching women around me and it became much easier to approach them. Probably they could sense it, too, and I was feeling getting more attention and IOIs. The best was probably about one to two months of strict nofap. Then after about three months, I experienced detrimental effects, namely I was so horny all the time that I was probably coming across as way too needy. Could not hold my eyes away from all these asses Not good! At this stage I decided to interrupt the nofap program and I relieved myself for the first time in three months. It was hard to return to strict nofap after that, but still I would only relieve myself once a week or so. I got a girlfriend about a month after I interrupted the nofap. Now the problem is solved as I am happily fucking my girlfriend 2 to 3 times a week...
Yours
Seppuku
Early June, I came across a website describing porn addiction, its detrimental effects on behavior and relationships, and benefits of nofap, and decided to try it immediately. On the first couple of weeks I experienced the loss of libido, but after that I felt my drive, assertiveness and aggressiveness greatly increased... even at work where I was much more pro-active and assertive. I had more energy, felt less tired, and started plenty of new activities. My voice also started to change and become deeper. I was becoming horny very easily watching women around me and it became much easier to approach them. Probably they could sense it, too, and I was feeling getting more attention and IOIs. The best was probably about one to two months of strict nofap. Then after about three months, I experienced detrimental effects, namely I was so horny all the time that I was probably coming across as way too needy. Could not hold my eyes away from all these asses
Not good! At this stage I decided to interrupt the nofap program and I relieved myself for the first time in three months. It was hard to return to strict nofap after that, but still I would only relieve myself once a week or so. I got a girlfriend about a month after I interrupted the nofap. Now the problem is solved as I am happily fucking my girlfriend 2 to 3 times a week... Yours
Seppuku
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Saw this thread got bumped, so I thought I'd share my experience too.
After I my ex-wife and I separated in December 2010, I found Internet porn. I thought it was glorious. Living in the same house with a woman for years, I'd never had the opportunity to jack off constantly to photos of naked women. Click after click after click there was a new naked whore!
I was pretty socially awkward anyway, after living a life for several years of just going to work and coming home to her and then going to bed (and the repeating the same the next day, and then the next day, and then the next, and so on...
Then, I found the awesome world of GC. One of the things I came across was that pick-up guys largely abstained from porn, and even masturbation. I thought these guys were crazy. Weren't they in this because they loved women and sex? Hadnt these dudes ever seen Something About Mary?
But, I decided to try it after reading more about it in other outlets unrelated to pickup. Hmm there must be something to this, I thought.
The results were:
- No longer felt huge amounts of anxiety around women (or people in general)
- Women actually noticed me more, gave me approach invitations, and would even open ME
- Pushed harder for sex, and moved faster with women
- Sexual performance increased, longer and harder erections
- Felt better, just in general, and had more energy to do daily tasks
So in addition to it helping me with women, it helped me with a myriad of other "life things" as well.
As far as women are concerned, there must be something in your pheromones that tells women: "Hey, I have a big load of baby batter that's ready to be dumped into your hot oven"
J.J.
After I my ex-wife and I separated in December 2010, I found Internet porn. I thought it was glorious. Living in the same house with a woman for years, I'd never had the opportunity to jack off constantly to photos of naked women. Click after click after click there was a new naked whore!
I was pretty socially awkward anyway, after living a life for several years of just going to work and coming home to her and then going to bed (and the repeating the same the next day, and then the next day, and then the next, and so on...
Then, I found the awesome world of GC. One of the things I came across was that pick-up guys largely abstained from porn, and even masturbation. I thought these guys were crazy. Weren't they in this because they loved women and sex? Hadnt these dudes ever seen Something About Mary?
But, I decided to try it after reading more about it in other outlets unrelated to pickup. Hmm there must be something to this, I thought.
The results were:
- No longer felt huge amounts of anxiety around women (or people in general)
- Women actually noticed me more, gave me approach invitations, and would even open ME
- Pushed harder for sex, and moved faster with women
- Sexual performance increased, longer and harder erections
- Felt better, just in general, and had more energy to do daily tasks
So in addition to it helping me with women, it helped me with a myriad of other "life things" as well.
As far as women are concerned, there must be something in your pheromones that tells women: "Hey, I have a big load of baby batter that's ready to be dumped into your hot oven"
J.J.
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NarrowJ said:Saw this thread got bumped, so I thought I'd share my experience too.
After I my ex-wife and I separated in December 2010, I found Internet porn. I thought it was glorious. Living in the same house with a woman for years, I'd never had the opportunity to jack off constantly to photos of naked women. Click after click after click there was a new naked whore!
I was pretty socially awkward anyway, after living a life for several years of just going to work and coming home to her and then going to bed (and the repeating the same the next day, and then the next day, and then the next, and so on...
Then, I found the awesome world of GC. One of the things I came across was that pick-up guys largely abstained from porn, and even masturbation. I thought these guys were crazy. Weren't they in this because they loved women and sex? Hadnt these dudes ever seen Something About Mary?
But, I decided to try it after reading more about it in other outlets unrelated to pickup. Hmm there must be something to this, I thought.
The results were:
- No longer felt huge amounts of anxiety around women (or people in general)
- Women actually noticed me more, gave me approach invitations, and would even open ME
- Pushed harder for sex, and moved faster with women
- Sexual performance increased, longer and harder erections
- Felt better, just in general, and had more energy to do daily tasks
So in addition to it helping me with women, it helped me with a myriad of other "life things" as well.
As far as women are concerned, there must be something in your pheromones that tells women: "Hey, I have a big load of baby batter that's ready to be dumped into your hot oven"
J.J.
Lol, I sure hope that's the case!
I started doing nofap 6 days ago. It's amazing how much my mindset has changed since starting. Now I think to myself, "Why the fuck would I get horny and jerk myself off when I'm alone in a shower? Doesn't make sense anymore"
That, and I've just generally stayed the fuck away from representations of women that I couldn't approach. I see chicks on TV and realize its constantly putting this frame of mind onto me that I can't approach/talk to girls, and it almost feels like that transfers into real life. Same with social situations on TV/video; they force this frame onto me that I am an orbiter in social situations because I immerse myself in a world that I cannot act upon.
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@DesertEagle,
Definitely, man! And, I still get bouts of approach anxiety to this day. Sometimes they can be rather extreme, too. I'm still trying to figure out what causes this, but I know I saw a significant drop in anxiety around women when I quit boppin' the bologna. And, as Drexel posted, There Is No Such Thing As Approach Anxiety. So, to a certain degree, our bodies are supposed to react that way to a woman that we want to ejaculate into We're just wired that way.
J.J.
Definitely, man! And, I still get bouts of approach anxiety to this day. Sometimes they can be rather extreme, too. I'm still trying to figure out what causes this, but I know I saw a significant drop in anxiety around women when I quit boppin' the bologna. And, as Drexel posted, There Is No Such Thing As Approach Anxiety. So, to a certain degree, our bodies are supposed to react that way to a woman that we want to ejaculate into
We're just wired that way.J.J.
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I just wanted to share my experience. I actually stayed in all day beating my birdie and avoided communication with everyone. I simply just do it to control my sex drive. If not I'll end calling the girl No one wants to bang or I'll go out, "looking for it" if you know what I mean
What I'm trying to say is, that it has it's goods and bads, if you don't take care of your needs the girls on your list will start seeing you as needy. Once that happens, your shit out of luck.
Besides being ghost for a few days doesn't hurt anyone. Let's make sure we masterbate responsibly.
What I'm trying to say is, that it has it's goods and bads, if you don't take care of your needs the girls on your list will start seeing you as needy. Once that happens, your shit out of luck.
Besides being ghost for a few days doesn't hurt anyone. Let's make sure we masterbate responsibly.