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devlish

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We had been slowly getting slightly more irritated by each other in our 7 month relationship recently, only for the past 2 weeks, one example is that she said she'd go back on the pill and then when I found out she didn't (I had to ask her) I got a bit annoyed because she always told me she hated sex without a condom and I remember her pulling it off me when I used one. The previous time I saw her things were mostly fine apart from a few minor annoyances (E.g I said some headphones were mine when they were actually hers and argued about it, then I found mine and I didn't say sorry which annoyed her quite a bit).

So we met yesterday outside a Christmas festive event and I could immediately tell things were weird as she was wearing lipstick just for coming to see me (so she couldn't kiss me) and before going in she wanted to walk to a quiet secluded area. She started saying how we've tried fixing it before but how I always have to be right and I never back down, how the only time I show her I like her is when we're in bed and I'm hugging her. She said she doesn't blame me because it's how I am but she just blames the situation. She said maybe we should go on a break and started crying while I just sat there and wasn't bothered (at the time I genuinely wasn't) which led to her saying how I should at least be fighting for her. I told her I do care about her and love her but I just don't cry and agreed with her by saying maybe we should break, then I tried kissing her which she denied and said we probably shouldn't. We walked around the festive event for a bit and I did a few things to which she was laughing at and she tried hugging me and holding my hand a few times which I pulled away from, saying we were friends and said we shouldn't to which she seemed to get quite pissed off at. Eventually I just said maybe we should just go home to which she just agreed.

On the walk back to the train station I stopped her and we talked about having the break. I said 2 weeks and she agreed saying we shouldn't talk for that whole time. I told her one more time that she had meant a lot to me and that she was very important to me to and that I don't want her to feel sad, to which she didn't respond and acted very emotionless. At the station we had a little goodbye and I placed a ring of hers I had into her hand saying 'You've wanted it back all this time, now you've finally got it' which I did kinda romantically. Then I said have a good 2 weeks and I walked off.

Advice on how I should have handled it better, and to what I should do now?
 

Hector Papi Castillo

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Good job on staying strong when she was baiting you for emotion and you did well to balance it with words of kindness (e.g., "I care about you"). Just make sure you're genuinely saying this with warmth and NO hint of neediness. My ex always complained that I was cold and robotic, but towards the end of our first attempt at the relationship, my affection was full of neediness, fueled by scarcity mentality.

Don't contact her at all; wait for her to initiate. Even if the 2 week period expires and you haven't heard from you, do not under any circumstances initiate contact. When and if she does contact you, let her do a lot of the work and let her suggest getting back together. Here, again, under no circumstance should you show any desire to get back together. Only do so if SHE ASKS and you truly feel that way.

In the meantime,

1. Approach other girls; you're on a break and she's 100% getting some dick, sorry to break it to ya. So you need to get some pussy or at least try and see that she ain't nuffin' but one girlie among many many others. You need that raw data.

2. Spend some time on your hobbies. Find a passion and occupy yourself with it.

3. Reevaluate if you even want to be with this girl. I'm gonna go ahead and say you should probably just break it off with her, even if she wants to have you back. Sounds like it was already going down hill. The problem sounds like you guys spent too much time together OR you failed to be warm and affectionate enough in the relationship, so you led her into an autorejection of sorts. Again, don't know the extent of your relationship enough to say for sure, but her behavior is congruent with the behavior of a woman in a relationship with those problems.

But if you do decide you want her back, you can try something pretty fun, if you got some cahones on ya.

Text her, tell her you want to talk, and meet up and break up with her. Be chill about it and say something like "I think this isn't really working out; you'd probably be happier with someone else." You gotta mean it, too, or she'll read through it.

From here, I almost guarantee she'll chase you. Then you have a decision

1. If she immediately begins begging you to have her back, take her back, with obvious reluctance and hesitance.

2. Say no and then see if down the road she opens back up to you.

This last break-up-with-her-first strategy is very effective. I did it with the girl who broke my heart and inspired me to start this whole journey. I ended our emotional-affair (didn't escalate to sex with her on account of her having a boyfriend and me being a pussy), and she got super upset. If I would have stayed resolute and firm in my decision, I probably could have gotten her, but I fell back on my frame, she saw through the act, and she dragged me through the fucking ringer. It was good for me.

Just a note, if you break up with her and then take her back, so long as you are genuinely reluctant about it, you're not breaking your frame. You're staying the same in emotion, but not action. You WILL break frame and suffer the consequences, however, if you do pull this move and then get scared and needy. It will seriously fuck shit up for you and her mentally.

But again, I like doing crazy shit. If you're more risk averse, utilize the other strategies.

- Hector
 

devlish

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Cheers for the insight Anatman It cleared things up a bit

do not under any circumstances initiate contact.

The no contact thing failed for the moment... was on the phone to my friend and my ear pushed the button to call her :'( so sent her a text saying 'soz meant to call my friend' which she ignored (fine by me).

You're definitely right about her initiating contact (FROM NOW!).

I've been approaching girls, talking to my girl-friends and messaging old ones as well.

you failed to be warm and affectionate enough in the relationship, so you led her into an autorejection of sorts.

I believe this was one main reason for the failure, however as she was a party girl I didn't want to get too invested. However I know for future that for a long relationship I may as well get invested and be more affectionate and caring as otherwise it's meaningless and crap.

About your method of getting her back (which does seem fun) - She is very much the type of girl who would not beg to get back together so not sure this would work. I am also not that keen on getting back together as she will cause problems and I'm in a very important year of study. I'm thinking of just blanking her from my life until she initiates, meet up, and if it goes well resume the relationship < but I reckon the 2 week break may ruin things?
 

Rhaegar

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There should be no breaks, it's either your dating or you guys are done. She's gonna get new dick, so just move on and forget her. Never get back together with an ex, yuou don't chase them, you replace them.


As a wise philosopher once said...."Fuck that bitch!"

For more info on his philosophy wisdom on how you should act, see this clip. Skip to the 00:44 second mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCdy2GBBW18
 
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devlish

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So we met again yesterday for the first time since our break,

We're chilling on a bench being a bit awkward at first, I'm mirroring her as she's being a bit cold. Gradually it warms up and we're making a few jokes so we go into a coffee place and talk a bit more. She tells me if we get back together she wants to start fresh and I agree. Atmospheres lightened up now.

We go for a little walk AND THEN she tells me she fucked another guy a week into our break :/ ...she thought I should know since we're gonna try again. I act very disappointed in her and can't really look at her and it puts a downer on everything. She has to go now but we agreed to meet on the weekend so we split up...

Kinda ruins everything as I've seen a very ugly side to her now and I don't feel like a relationship with her - kinda still wouldn't mind having her as a fuckbuddy though.
 

Zoro

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I'm not surprised she had sex on the break, Anatman warned you of that.

This "ugly side" is not something unique to any one girl but rather to men whom women see as lower value. You may have been losing attraction with her on the relationship towards the end and she wanted this cool dick that came along (hence why she suggested the break)

Women always keep their options open for the best man possible.

Refrain from bitterness. The best thing you can do is to see this as an ugly side to YOU (since that is the way women will view whatever made her attraction for you cool off) and make moves to work on it and better yourself to raise your value as a desirable man.

As you get better you will become less and less the man being left to the way side and more and more the dude with the cool dick.

Anatman's advice is a great start. Dive into a hobby/passion and some new pussy! Get excited. GET EXCITED.

GET EXCITED.

;)
 
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