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Hey Guys,
I've been wanting to get this girl out on a date for quite a while but it's been a hilarious and sometimes frustrating experience.
BACKSTORY:
I should probably start with the fact that I'm a musician that's played in several bands over the past 10 years, so I see and meet numerous women on a monthly basis. I first read Chase's article "Why I Quit Dating Girls Who Club, Party or Drink" over a year ago. Because of this, I've mostly steered clear of 95% of women I meet in the clubs I play at or visit to watch other bands play. Over a year ago, Chase and other posters suggested using the club scene to improve and practice my skills and gradually work towards "day game.
The first challenge I had with this from last year is that all of the women I had met had friend-zoned me before I found Girls Chase in April 2013. Some of these women were at every gig I played at. And some of these women were at the same venues on my off nights when I went to see other bands. I quickly came to the conclusion that 99% of these women were out of contention--by my choice.
I decided to experiment and only pursue attractive women that I had never seen before or only saw on rare occasions. They also had to either be non-drinkers or light, social drinkers that weren't getting plastered (By the way, I've read some of the recent articles about proper screening so I'm also trying to do this too now).
I first met this girl about 6 years ago and she had a boyfriend at the time and I was married to my first wife. We were never friends, she was just an acquaintance through other fans of my band at the time. So over the course of 6 years, she's had 3 boyfriends and I've been married and divorced twice and had one girlfriend. Now here's the funny part, over the past 6 years, I only run into her or see her about every 3-4 months (I know through other mutual friends or acquaintances that she only frequents the 2 clubs I play at because they're close to where she lives). She also likes live bands and loves to dance so that rules out any other clubs within a 5 mile range of the suburb of where she lives.
So every time we've crossed paths, one or both of us had a significant other. Pretty much a timing thing. But a year ago, I let an opportunity slip away when we were both actually single at a holiday party. My major reservation at the time was that my second divorce wasn't quite finalized--it was done three months later. My head wasn't quite there and I let her leave the party alone. Since last year, I've only seen her 3 times at any of my gigs. And all three times I wasn't able to move her because my band plays the whole night--four hours. And I've tried to set up dates and she's flaked every time. And yes, there's always been a mutual attraction every time we see each other. I think one of the major challenges I'm having is explained below. In the big scheme of things I find the whole thing comical. I just thought it would be cool to hook up with girl once to see where it goes. But I've come across this same issue with other women over the past year as well.
NEW POSSIBLE ARTICLE AND/OR FORUM TOPIC (FOR CHASE, OTHER AUTHORS AND POSTERS):
Here's another situation that would be great to see discussed and written about in future articles, etc.: single women with kids of any age. And I'm not just talking about young guys going after MILFs or cougers. I'm talking about women your own age and even younger than you that have kids of various ages. This is another major reason I don't see many of them very often, if ever, at a bar (it depends on the ages of their kids, of course). What's even more challenging and interesting in my age range (early 50's), is the women that I want to date (40-50) aren't just mothers--they're grandmothers too. Shocking, huh? LOL! This is where I sometimes struggle with the idea of "absolute abundance." A vast majority of women between 40-50 are already accounted for and/or also have kids--period. That's the reality. Another challenge here is that they're constantly doing things with their kids (which isn't a bad thing really) leaving less availability for dating men.
So the girl in question I'm talking about falls into this category mentioned above. She has 5 kids between the ages of 14-25. My last girlfriend had 5 kids between 20-28. I know another attractive woman that has 5 kids with ages ranging between 3-15. And just to show a variance from 5 kids, I met a gorgeous blonde in her late 30's with 2 kids earlier this year. Nightclubs? Uh, barely or hardly ever. Bars? LOL! What about "day game?" How the hell would you pull that off? All 4 of these women have day jobs and are obviously busy.
I'm not trying to be pessimistic here, I'm just looking for some new seduction solutions and direction with older women. Most of you probably don't give a shit if you're only a teenager or in your 20's or 30's. But if you're in your 40's or 50's and single, you'll be dealing with this a majority of the time. And I think that Chase's articles discussing women wanting children or the best seed possible doesn't really apply here. I think those priorities shift due to their age (more so after 40) and they've already achieved having children.
I guess this post would be the exact opposite of Colt's 3 articles about cougars and what he discusses there. I think it would be interesting to see this laid out from the perspective of guys who are the same age or older than the cougar and MILF ages mentioned in Colt's articles. Colt does briefly mention dealing with cougars who have children and their respective exes. How do you date these women? Where do you meet them? How do you call or text them to actually get them out of the house? I think they're a smaller subset of women that sometimes fall through the cracks because they don't appear to be visibly available. It's really hilarious because I've seen teenagers on here at Girls Chase asking for advice on how to seduce their teenage girl prospects when one or both of their parents are around. I've been in two situations where the woman I'm interested in has her twenty-something year old daughter or son with them at the club or someplace else. How the hell do you manage that?
I've been wanting to get this girl out on a date for quite a while but it's been a hilarious and sometimes frustrating experience.
BACKSTORY:
I should probably start with the fact that I'm a musician that's played in several bands over the past 10 years, so I see and meet numerous women on a monthly basis. I first read Chase's article "Why I Quit Dating Girls Who Club, Party or Drink" over a year ago. Because of this, I've mostly steered clear of 95% of women I meet in the clubs I play at or visit to watch other bands play. Over a year ago, Chase and other posters suggested using the club scene to improve and practice my skills and gradually work towards "day game.
The first challenge I had with this from last year is that all of the women I had met had friend-zoned me before I found Girls Chase in April 2013. Some of these women were at every gig I played at. And some of these women were at the same venues on my off nights when I went to see other bands. I quickly came to the conclusion that 99% of these women were out of contention--by my choice.
I decided to experiment and only pursue attractive women that I had never seen before or only saw on rare occasions. They also had to either be non-drinkers or light, social drinkers that weren't getting plastered (By the way, I've read some of the recent articles about proper screening so I'm also trying to do this too now).
I first met this girl about 6 years ago and she had a boyfriend at the time and I was married to my first wife. We were never friends, she was just an acquaintance through other fans of my band at the time. So over the course of 6 years, she's had 3 boyfriends and I've been married and divorced twice and had one girlfriend. Now here's the funny part, over the past 6 years, I only run into her or see her about every 3-4 months (I know through other mutual friends or acquaintances that she only frequents the 2 clubs I play at because they're close to where she lives). She also likes live bands and loves to dance so that rules out any other clubs within a 5 mile range of the suburb of where she lives.
So every time we've crossed paths, one or both of us had a significant other. Pretty much a timing thing. But a year ago, I let an opportunity slip away when we were both actually single at a holiday party. My major reservation at the time was that my second divorce wasn't quite finalized--it was done three months later. My head wasn't quite there and I let her leave the party alone. Since last year, I've only seen her 3 times at any of my gigs. And all three times I wasn't able to move her because my band plays the whole night--four hours. And I've tried to set up dates and she's flaked every time. And yes, there's always been a mutual attraction every time we see each other. I think one of the major challenges I'm having is explained below. In the big scheme of things I find the whole thing comical. I just thought it would be cool to hook up with girl once to see where it goes. But I've come across this same issue with other women over the past year as well.
NEW POSSIBLE ARTICLE AND/OR FORUM TOPIC (FOR CHASE, OTHER AUTHORS AND POSTERS):
Here's another situation that would be great to see discussed and written about in future articles, etc.: single women with kids of any age. And I'm not just talking about young guys going after MILFs or cougers. I'm talking about women your own age and even younger than you that have kids of various ages. This is another major reason I don't see many of them very often, if ever, at a bar (it depends on the ages of their kids, of course). What's even more challenging and interesting in my age range (early 50's), is the women that I want to date (40-50) aren't just mothers--they're grandmothers too. Shocking, huh? LOL! This is where I sometimes struggle with the idea of "absolute abundance." A vast majority of women between 40-50 are already accounted for and/or also have kids--period. That's the reality. Another challenge here is that they're constantly doing things with their kids (which isn't a bad thing really) leaving less availability for dating men.
So the girl in question I'm talking about falls into this category mentioned above. She has 5 kids between the ages of 14-25. My last girlfriend had 5 kids between 20-28. I know another attractive woman that has 5 kids with ages ranging between 3-15. And just to show a variance from 5 kids, I met a gorgeous blonde in her late 30's with 2 kids earlier this year. Nightclubs? Uh, barely or hardly ever. Bars? LOL! What about "day game?" How the hell would you pull that off? All 4 of these women have day jobs and are obviously busy.
I'm not trying to be pessimistic here, I'm just looking for some new seduction solutions and direction with older women. Most of you probably don't give a shit if you're only a teenager or in your 20's or 30's. But if you're in your 40's or 50's and single, you'll be dealing with this a majority of the time. And I think that Chase's articles discussing women wanting children or the best seed possible doesn't really apply here. I think those priorities shift due to their age (more so after 40) and they've already achieved having children.
I guess this post would be the exact opposite of Colt's 3 articles about cougars and what he discusses there. I think it would be interesting to see this laid out from the perspective of guys who are the same age or older than the cougar and MILF ages mentioned in Colt's articles. Colt does briefly mention dealing with cougars who have children and their respective exes. How do you date these women? Where do you meet them? How do you call or text them to actually get them out of the house? I think they're a smaller subset of women that sometimes fall through the cracks because they don't appear to be visibly available. It's really hilarious because I've seen teenagers on here at Girls Chase asking for advice on how to seduce their teenage girl prospects when one or both of their parents are around. I've been in two situations where the woman I'm interested in has her twenty-something year old daughter or son with them at the club or someplace else. How the hell do you manage that?
