On Reaching Consistency

[PrettyDecent]

This is a point of discussion more than an instructional post.

Consistency has interested me for many years. Do you reach a skill point in seduction where you never have to think about the skill again? Like you don't need to approach for 6 months, but then get back into it strong as ever?

My personal opinion is that you don't. Taking an example from the gym, you don't work out and become huge and then never work out again - you'll lose all your muscle. But you don't have to go 5 days a week like you did before, either. You can walk the middle path of 2 days a week and maintain the muscle you built.

Maintenance. You're not growing or shrinking. You're keeping what you have.

This is why I believe that to grow in seduction, you must be talking to many women most days of the week for a couple years. But after that, you only need to go out twice a week.

I think it's a pretty basic realisation I've come to, but took me many years of experience to realise.

Nick

 

[Inbocca]

That's an astute observation. I wonder if there's some kind of growth model you can apply to skills in general. Something like a pyramid, where the first stage is sheer brute force in gaining reference points, then a maintenance stage where you isolate areas for improvement and try to get as many reference points as possible for those areas while still polishing rust off your newly-mastered skills, followed by a precision stage where you only need to focus on new techniques and innovating your own techniques.

It's kind of atrophy-proof, because once you hit each level the lessons from the previous are deeply-ingrained.

 

[Seppuku]

Hey PrettyDecent,

It is a very interesting question, I've been wondering the same. I think it in terms of two components at play.

1. The skill. This one, you don't really lose it - at least if you're off game for a few months... Beyond that I don't know.

2. The vibe. The vibe is the success factor. If you have had a few successes in the past few weeks, it reinforces your self confidence, and shows out via very subtle, unconscious body language cues, that girls pick up and react positively to. Success brings more success. On the opposite, if you haven't scored any new girl recently, your vibe goes off. On the extreme end, someone who didn't get laid in years sends negative vibes (subtle cues about lack of confidence and absence of sexuality) - which makes it extra hard for this guy to get laid again.

According to this view, it is the (loss of) vibe that makes it hard to resume after a break.

Does that makes sense to you?

Seppuku

 

[PrettyDecent]

That's an astute observation. I wonder if there's some kind of growth model you can apply to skills in general. Something like a pyramid, where the first stage is sheer brute force in gaining reference points, then a maintenance stage where you isolate areas for improvement and try to get as many reference points as possible for those areas while still polishing rust off your newly-mastered skills, followed by a precision stage where you only need to focus on new techniques and innovating your own techniques.

It's kind of atrophy-proof, because once you hit each level the lessons from the previous are deeply-ingrained.

Definitely. Skill-wise, I think it is like this.

According to this view, it is the (loss of) vibe that makes it hard to resume after a break.

Does that makes sense to you?

Yep. Makes sense.

So that would mean this post is more about reaching a consistently good vibe long-term.

Nick

 

[Grand Pooba]

So that would mean this post is more about reaching a consistently good vibe long-term.

100% agree. This is how naturals do it.

Great post, man! Love it.

 

[Seppuku]

It's interesting to see how different authors define "the vibe".

When a man spins more plates, when he has irons on the fire, when he is pursuing multiple women simultaneously, when he has options equally worth exploring, a man will have a natural, subconscious (but not exclusively) understanding than if one prospect does not expand, others very well may. This understanding has manifestations in a man's behavior that women key on covertly. There are mannerisms and attitudes that a man with options will subconsciously convey to prospective women that they interpret, and give this man a value as a commodity to be competed for with other females.

For Rollo Tomassi in "The Rational Male", "the vibe" is about sub-communicating that you have other options at hand. It's about having abundance.

BlackDragon mentions about the "De Facto Monogamous" state. According to him, no matter how experienced (i.e "Alpha") with women you are, if you have been fucking only one woman for some time, you will have the vibe of a purely monogamous man (i.e. a "Beta"). So, for BlackDragon, "the vibe" is not just about having options, but about having actually more than one girl in an on-going polygamous rotation.

Ricardus did mention a "Succes Factor" or "X Factor" here and subsequent articles. For him, it is about projecting a positive inner state.

My own experience is more about a momentum effect coming from a recent stream of success - which transcribes into subconscious body language cues and that women pick up and respond to.

I'm not sure how Chase defined "the vibe"? Or if he even mentioned it?

And how about you guys? What's your experience?

Cheers,
Seppuku