Hey guys,
Just for some context, I had some experiences with overgaming in the recent past so I sort of took a "break" from using game techniques over the past two weeks. Just trying to rebalance myself and incorporate game into my existing personality in a more seamless way. This week I read some GC articles about being an "asshole" sometimes, as well as articles on being a good conversationalist. I have also been using the Hinge dating app recently since my work has been very busy and I don't have time to day game. I got some solid dates lined up for this week using Hinge and one of them turned into a lay:
The date
Previously Ive had issues where I think so much about game techniques that I get stuck in my head and bring that mindset into the dates. When this happens girls are turned off because they dont feel like I'm being present. I had picked out a wine bar in the city and on my way walking over I told myself to not worry about focusing on game techniques and trust that the techniques will be there. This allowed me to get out of my head and I felt happier.
I get to the bar and find two seats at the end of the bar. I like sitting at the bar because it allows for easy kino. My date is about 5 minutes late but texts me when she gets there:
She looks up, sees me wave and then comes over. I get up and give her a hug. I start bantering that she's wearing so much clothing because she has a coat, scarf, and ear muffs. We immediately start talking about past Hinge dates that we both have. I'm attempting to portray myself as a sexual man who goes on dates. Im also letting her know that Im nonjudgemental and I expect that she goes on other dates too. This helps set the tone for us maybe having sex tonight.
During the date I ask her most of the questions, trying to get at her childhood experiences and passions (deep diving). My body language is calm, half way turned towards her, and leaning back in my chair. I am attentive but dont act too excited unless she says something I really like. I also touch her arm if I really like something she says. I do this maybe 2 times.
We had several silences where we made pretty sultry eye contact for several seconds. This happens because I am consistently making strong eye contact and speaking slowly in general. She even comments about me being a slow talker, haha. During one of these silences I go in for a kiss. At the last second she turns her head and I kiss her on the cheek. I laugh it off.
Once I'm looking back at her again she is looking at me sexily, biting her lower lip and says sarcastically:
I realize that she is teasing me wonder if I didn't signal enough before the kiss that I wanted to kiss her. She starts caressing my leg with hers under the bar and is turned fully towards me. I realize that this attempted kiss actually had a positive impact on her attraction for me even though she turned her head... Im still confused about this.
We go into small talk but I tell her:
There are then several more silences where she looks at me teasingly and with doe eyes. I dont go in for another kiss even though she may be ready for it now. I figure this would look chasey. Therefore, she has two options: she can kiss me here, or we can kiss once I pull her to a private place.
On one high point of the conversation I notice that we have finished our wine, so I go for a yes ladder for the pull:
I realize I got the pull and we leave for her apartment. It's a studio apartment so no roommates. When there I ask to use her restroom. I want to be far away from her to get her used to me being there. When I come back she is in the kitchen and there is a puzzle on the floor of her studio. I sit on the floor and she asks from the kitchen if I want water. I say yes and she brings the waters. Her bed is also in the studio 5 feet from where we're doing the puzzle.
I take out the puzzle and she comes to sit across from me. We do it for about 20 minutes and then I make eye contact with her, and go in for the kiss. I get no resistance and we make out. After about 15 seconds I say:
I can tell that she's a little frustrated by this. We keep on doing the puzzle, and I repeat this process 2 more times. The third time I make out with her, her body is gyrating more and she has a hand on the back of my head pulling me in. I go down to kiss her neck and she lets out a big MOAN. Bingo. I am trying to find the spots on her body that really turn her on.
I stand up, hold my hand out, and lead her over to the bed 5 feet away. I then make out on top of her for 10 minutes trying to find her trigger spots which are: her ears, neck, and ass when I squeeze it. We slowly take articles of clothing off until were naked. I lay beside her and start to rub her pussy. She is moaning super loudly and climaxes HARD within 1 minute. I think, this is going to be interesting...
After finishing she says:
Due to the repeated escalation-descalation, once I have the condom on she is practically begging for my cock to be inside of her. I fuck her missionary but she doesn't really cum like that. I then flip her to the position where Im on top, she's face down, but lying down and her legs are together. I reach around to rub her clit and she pushes her ass back into me and cums once. I then bring her up to doggy, rub her clit, and she cums again. We then flip back to missionary to make intimate skin-skin contact. This position also feels best for me, personally, so I was being a little selfish.
We do a couple rounds of this, which lasts about 30 minutes. Im super turned on because she's hot and I love when girls cum a lot. However, im having a hard time getting good stimulation because of the condom and we stop thrusting every several minutes for her to cum. Its the price you pay for that I guess. Eventually, I get a solid few minutes of thrusting in and finish in the condom. I say:
I totally didn't expect her to say this because she seemed like the quiet book worm/nerdy type. We laid there for a little bit talking and then I mentioned that I had no idea what time it was. It turned out to be 1am and I had to get home and wake up at 6 the next morning. I left and said I would text her when Im home:
Not sure if I'll see her again but I felt really positive that I was able to get a one date pull comfortably while using multiple game techniques in moderation and not overgamming. I would appreciate any tips on my yes ladder. Also, why did she get so turned on by the attempted (and failed) kiss?
Lastly, I know this isn't the sex forum, but I would appreciate any comments on other trigger spots for women or other sex tips for this lay.
Thanks!
BigS
Just for some context, I had some experiences with overgaming in the recent past so I sort of took a "break" from using game techniques over the past two weeks. Just trying to rebalance myself and incorporate game into my existing personality in a more seamless way. This week I read some GC articles about being an "asshole" sometimes, as well as articles on being a good conversationalist. I have also been using the Hinge dating app recently since my work has been very busy and I don't have time to day game. I got some solid dates lined up for this week using Hinge and one of them turned into a lay:
The date
Previously Ive had issues where I think so much about game techniques that I get stuck in my head and bring that mindset into the dates. When this happens girls are turned off because they dont feel like I'm being present. I had picked out a wine bar in the city and on my way walking over I told myself to not worry about focusing on game techniques and trust that the techniques will be there. This allowed me to get out of my head and I felt happier.
I get to the bar and find two seats at the end of the bar. I like sitting at the bar because it allows for easy kino. My date is about 5 minutes late but texts me when she gets there:
Her: hi! im here. should I get a seat?
me: im at the end of the bar
She looks up, sees me wave and then comes over. I get up and give her a hug. I start bantering that she's wearing so much clothing because she has a coat, scarf, and ear muffs. We immediately start talking about past Hinge dates that we both have. I'm attempting to portray myself as a sexual man who goes on dates. Im also letting her know that Im nonjudgemental and I expect that she goes on other dates too. This helps set the tone for us maybe having sex tonight.
During the date I ask her most of the questions, trying to get at her childhood experiences and passions (deep diving). My body language is calm, half way turned towards her, and leaning back in my chair. I am attentive but dont act too excited unless she says something I really like. I also touch her arm if I really like something she says. I do this maybe 2 times.
We had several silences where we made pretty sultry eye contact for several seconds. This happens because I am consistently making strong eye contact and speaking slowly in general. She even comments about me being a slow talker, haha. During one of these silences I go in for a kiss. At the last second she turns her head and I kiss her on the cheek. I laugh it off.
Once I'm looking back at her again she is looking at me sexily, biting her lower lip and says sarcastically:
I thought you were going to whisper something in my ear!
I realize that she is teasing me wonder if I didn't signal enough before the kiss that I wanted to kiss her. She starts caressing my leg with hers under the bar and is turned fully towards me. I realize that this attempted kiss actually had a positive impact on her attraction for me even though she turned her head... Im still confused about this.
We go into small talk but I tell her:
Me: It feels weird going back into small talk after that
There are then several more silences where she looks at me teasingly and with doe eyes. I dont go in for another kiss even though she may be ready for it now. I figure this would look chasey. Therefore, she has two options: she can kiss me here, or we can kiss once I pull her to a private place.
On one high point of the conversation I notice that we have finished our wine, so I go for a yes ladder for the pull:
me: you like this wine, right?
her: yes
me: you like this place, right?
her: yes
me: do you want to go back to your apartment for 15 minutes?
her: okay... why just 15 minutes
me: [looking at watch] idk, I might have to go
her: wait did you just invite yourself over to my place???
me: yeah!
her: im okay with it, I just dont know if I should be okay with it...
me: it'll be fun! do you have any fun activities to do there?
her: I have a puzzle!
me: okay lets do a puzzle!
her: okay, haha
I realize I got the pull and we leave for her apartment. It's a studio apartment so no roommates. When there I ask to use her restroom. I want to be far away from her to get her used to me being there. When I come back she is in the kitchen and there is a puzzle on the floor of her studio. I sit on the floor and she asks from the kitchen if I want water. I say yes and she brings the waters. Her bed is also in the studio 5 feet from where we're doing the puzzle.
I take out the puzzle and she comes to sit across from me. We do it for about 20 minutes and then I make eye contact with her, and go in for the kiss. I get no resistance and we make out. After about 15 seconds I say:
me: wait we have to work on the puzzle!
her: okay
I can tell that she's a little frustrated by this. We keep on doing the puzzle, and I repeat this process 2 more times. The third time I make out with her, her body is gyrating more and she has a hand on the back of my head pulling me in. I go down to kiss her neck and she lets out a big MOAN. Bingo. I am trying to find the spots on her body that really turn her on.
I stand up, hold my hand out, and lead her over to the bed 5 feet away. I then make out on top of her for 10 minutes trying to find her trigger spots which are: her ears, neck, and ass when I squeeze it. We slowly take articles of clothing off until were naked. I lay beside her and start to rub her pussy. She is moaning super loudly and climaxes HARD within 1 minute. I think, this is going to be interesting...
Her: sorry I cum really easily
Me: and hard!
Her: yeah...
Due to the repeated escalation-descalation, once I have the condom on she is practically begging for my cock to be inside of her. I fuck her missionary but she doesn't really cum like that. I then flip her to the position where Im on top, she's face down, but lying down and her legs are together. I reach around to rub her clit and she pushes her ass back into me and cums once. I then bring her up to doggy, rub her clit, and she cums again. We then flip back to missionary to make intimate skin-skin contact. This position also feels best for me, personally, so I was being a little selfish.
We do a couple rounds of this, which lasts about 30 minutes. Im super turned on because she's hot and I love when girls cum a lot. However, im having a hard time getting good stimulation because of the condom and we stop thrusting every several minutes for her to cum. Its the price you pay for that I guess. Eventually, I get a solid few minutes of thrusting in and finish in the condom. I say:
Me: I think I died and went to heaven, and now im back on earth again, haha.
Her: yeah...that was good
Me: it was good
Her: I love sex
I totally didn't expect her to say this because she seemed like the quiet book worm/nerdy type. We laid there for a little bit talking and then I mentioned that I had no idea what time it was. It turned out to be 1am and I had to get home and wake up at 6 the next morning. I left and said I would text her when Im home:
Me: im home
Her: Sleep well! Thanks for a really nice night![]()
Not sure if I'll see her again but I felt really positive that I was able to get a one date pull comfortably while using multiple game techniques in moderation and not overgamming. I would appreciate any tips on my yes ladder. Also, why did she get so turned on by the attempted (and failed) kiss?
Lastly, I know this isn't the sex forum, but I would appreciate any comments on other trigger spots for women or other sex tips for this lay.
Thanks!
BigS