"Pandora's Box" System: Yay or Nay?

[TomGray]

So in the email newsletter, Chase included a link to a $70 program called Pandora's Box. I don't know if it's out of line to post the link but here it is:
http://3simplequestions.com/adpre/?afid ... 8eca&SID;=

If that doesn't work, then just type in www.3simplequestions.com.

Supposedly, the egregiously long sales-pitch claims that, among other things, you can make women instantly horny for you by just asking three questions.

Here's what makes this seem off to me:

Easiness: being great at anything takes time. Maybe there are some things out there that can improved with a simple fix but to instantly sleep with countless sexy women after buying a seventy dollar program on the internet is outlandish at best. At the very least, a fair amount of time will be required and the narrator goes into no effort to explain the difficulties which a person may encounter.

The sensationalism: The narrator uses a fair amount of language like "hot, wet pussy that fits like a glove", or "rock star" to get you enticed as well as drawings of an out-of-shape man having sex with gorgeous women.

Cherry-picked testimony: Including a few emails about how the system works great does not mean that there aren't a thousand that attest to its deficiencies.

Time-limit pressure: Apparently, only a hundred people will be able to purchase this program before it "disappears forever" because it's part of a "test group". How much do you want to bet that this website will still be up a month from now or another website will take its place with the same material?

Word Vomit: The narrator tries to drown your sense of reason or ability to think critically by the sheer volume of the introductory audio file. By talking down your resistance, he can overcome it without having provided any logical reason why we should invest in his product.

Affiliation: The narrator is apparently not even the person who developed the program! After the "main" audio file ends, he barrages you with questions that you might have including a hilarious "Can I trust this product?" for which he provides no support except by overemphasizing the premise "Yes, you can definitely trust this product" or by circular reasoning: "Vin says that you can trust this product because it works. You can trust this product because Vin says it works"

Support: The most glaring issue. If this product really works as well as it claims, then why not give a little bit of it away (much like GirlsChase does) to convince people that it does? We would have an idea of what is actually being talked about and we could try it for ourselves. Free samples are invaluable. Simply including testimony is not trustworthy enough. If I included testimony that "Tom Gray's Patented Unicorn Powder" really worked, that is still not reason to believe me. If I'm selling a seventy dollar product that "works like gangbusters", I should include more than a little bit of the product. Even dealerships let you test drive cars for the obvious reason that you know what you're getting.

Now, considering that I learned of this program from Chase, someone who does seem trustworthy, I am still interested in seeing how it works. Has anyone been through the program? Can you attest to its quality? And highly important: is its money-back guarantee honorable? That is, will they give you all of your money back and not cause any problems for you?

Interested in seeing what you all think.

 

[Desert Eagle]

First let me say that this Pandora's Box program has been circulating the internet for years. I remember watching that video in high school four years ago.

Next, let me say that this form of a sales pitch is heavy NLP/psychological, and because of that, it works and makes men rich. If you look at the program catalog, you'll notice that Chase uses the exact same presentation template to sell his Mastery Program.

The fact is, the majority of consumers on the internet go for this stuff. The amount of intellectually inclined people that make smart decisions about the way that they purchase items in the world is astonishingly low, even more so when you take in guys who can't figure out women and social interaction. Making logical sense to people just isn't a valid sales tactic for 95% of the population. Otherwise 95% of the population would be reading up on women using programs not based on their sales pitch, but based on the reputable reviews of said product, personal recommendations, and trust in the developer of said product.

So as dumb as it may sound to you, it sells products to others. Products they probably desperately need, and most likely use to have success. NLP and psychological manipulation isn't bad, nor good, it's just that. And perhaps the only way to make desperate guys learn how to get better with women, to get better with their life, is to really sell a pitch to sell a product that does help them and turn things around. Life is funny like that sometimes.

 

[D_Smooth1900]

I tried it I actually enjoyed the program. It basically categorizes women into 8 different sub groups. By knowing thier likes and dislike your able to determine the type of girl whether she's conservative type or someone who bounces from guy to guy. There's actually a whole system behind it.

 

[TomGray]

It just seems so strange to me. If you do have a legitimately worthwhile product on your hands, there's no need to play the snake-oil salesman with it, you can just let the natural qualities of the product stand out. Kind of like what we do with seduction

 

[Chase]

Worth keeping in mind...

It just seems so strange to me. If you do have a legitimately worthwhile product on your hands, there's no need to play the snake-oil salesman with it, you can just let the natural qualities of the product stand out. Kind of like what we do with seduction

If that's all there was to it, guys wouldn't need a site like this now, would they?

Fact of the matter is, sales is an entire other learning curve where, just like with seduction, when you get in and you're new and you've got all this idealism about "here's how it ought to work", you find your dreams quickly dashed when you discover people simply don't respond how you expected them to respond.

Here's this amazing, incredible product. So you walk up and tell folks it's amazing and incredible, and you do it with excitement, and you do it completely honestly. Nobody buys.

You look across the street - there's this guy selling absolute crap in a bottle, but he knows sales and people are lining up out the door to buy his stuff.

Sales ends up being like anything there's a learning curve with - everyone gets in thinking, "This'll be a cinch!", but most of them drop out disillusioned soon thereafter.

The guys who stick around are the ones who commit themselves to learning marketing, which is an entirely different dimension from product creation.

You end up with different categories of marketers:

• Guys with crappy products and crappy marketing: fail out of the market soon
• Guys with fantastic products and crappy marketing: they carve out a tiny niche but can never grow beyond it
• Guys with crappy products and fantastic marketing: they never get HUGE, but they will make some bank
• Guys with fantastic products and fantastic marketing: these are the guys who become titans

They're seriously different domains, sales and marketing. I wish I could say the "just be yourself" method worked for product sales, but unfortunately, people need you to snap them out of their autopilots, tell them something gripping and sensational, get them to imagine the good results of the offer, remind them of the pain that comes from continuing to do what they do and just keep drifting along, and a lot more, before they're willing to part with money to a stranger on the Internet.

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