Persistance

[Bboy100]

Here's something that's been troubling me recently...how do I know if a girl actually means "no" when I ask for compliance? In other words...in what situations should I persist/address objections vs just go with whatever she's saying? I ask because here's how a lot of my convos with girls have been going lately:

Me: We should do such and such on x day & time.
Her: I can't...[Insert transparent excuse here]
Me: [Address transparent excuse]
Her: Comes up with another, even worse excuse
...rinse and repeat until she eventually just agrees, then flakes on me the next day.

...I guess what I'm saying is, I don't ever really see persistence change a girl's mind in that she actually wants to do what I'm suggesting. It's not that persistence has never worked for me. It's that usually, when she takes my lead, she does it because I'm not accepting no for an answer and she doesn't know how to handle that other than to submit to me. But secretly, she's probably not comfortable with what we're doing.

On a similar note...I'm having a difficult time persisting in a charismatic way. I've only found two ways to address a women's objections/be persistent.
1. Do it with a rapport seeking tonality (i.e. that high-pitched, wimpy voice which subconsciously communicates that I desire her approval...it's kind of hard to describe over text.)
2. Do it in a neutral or commanding tone of voice. The problem with this one is that it usually comes off pushy and/or needy.

So the second part to this question is: How do I remain sexy/charismatic whilst being persistent/dealing with objections? Video examples of the right way to do this would be great if you know of any.

 

[Bboy100]

You can tell if you should persist by their body language. How receptive or inviting is they're body? Are they laughing/smiling while telling you no? Are they looking at you like they're fishing/awaiting for an answer/reaction? This are all signs whether this girls likes you or not.

In principle, I know this. Its true that persistence works when girls are interested, and it doesn't when they're not. The problem is that I'm reletively clueless when it comes to picking up on signals of interest/disinterest. All of those things you just mentioned(in my experience) don't necessarily mean anything. Check this video analysis by DrexelScott out: http://drexelscott.com/2016/01/how-not-to-get-laid/

If you just watch the video (without reading Drexel's commentary), you'll notice that even though the guy (SashaDayGame) seems kinda weird, this particular girl seems at least somewhat interested in him... I mean...she's laughing, smiling, has open body language, is willing to talk to him etc. But once you read the commentary, you'll realize just how disinterested the girl truly is, and also how subtle and hard to pick up her indicators of said disinterest are.

Also, on my own dates, I've had MANY cases where the girl seems interested (i.e. she's smiling, laughing, engaging me), but after the date, she doesn't reply to my texts. These girls probably showed disinterest in similar ways that the one in the video did...but I'm just not yet calibrated enough to pick up on it.

Having said that, I'm not really afraid of coming off as "chasing". My own body language, vibe and fundamentals usually cancel out any form of chasing I might be doing (unless ofc, the behavior is continuous/ongoing or it's over text...but I almost never do that).

No...I'm more afraid that I'm coming off as pushy or like I'm pressuring her into doing something she doesn't want to do. Almost the same way a salesman might try to get you to buy a product you're not really sure about. ...You normally wouldn't peg a salesman as "needy" or "chasing". But you might say he's "pushy" or "inconsiderate".