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I have written about Dana in my journal, and she is the same girl I'm asking about here.
Matching
Dana and I matched on Tinder two months ago. Like myself, she is Middle Eastern and relatively modern.
First date
She dropped her number after a couple of texts because she wanted me to join for some kind of cultural event. I declined, but told her I would love to meet her afterwards. She declined, and this is where I thought this could be one girl I could gain some "real" experience from.
We met in a coffee shop a week after we matched. We had some great talk, I initiated casual touch early on, and she felt relaxed in my company. When our first date was ending, I had asked if she had some food or drinks from her country I could try next time we met which could happen at my place. She just said "it sounds like fun", but didn't really say yes or no.
Second date
Our second date was like planning how to get to hell. She didn't feel like coming to my place anyway and counteroffered to walk around the city. But I had school till late afternoon and a professional meeting in the evening, so just wanted to get home to relax before the meeting. She was also leaving the country in a couple days for two weeks, and I wanted to make sure I had laid her before this. But it seems like I couldn't convince her at this point, and I hadn't really stated my interest in her anyway and would just make her look like just another fuck this way. So forgot about it (and made one of my casual partners come to my place instead
). She asked me to reconsider, but I told her it was unlikely.
Then something happened: my last class was cancelled. I had 2 more hours before getting home to fuck my other girl and she couldn't make it sooner anyway. Called Dana to find out if she was in the city, and she was on her way indeed. When we met, I had 1 hour to make my interest known to her before getting on the bus. We met close to a church and talked casually for a while before entering the church. We tried to find a way to get to the top illegally, but we would be "sinning" if we did (I have used this "sinning" frame ever since to subtlely hint that I am such a bad man haha). We went outside again 20 minutes after, and she wanted me to go one way with her, but my bus was the other direction. Her reaction was so funny because she thought I was going to be her shopping guy for a second. Told her I was still getting home to chill before that meeting, and it completely messed with her head that I had not given up on that. We sat somewhere close to the bus stop, and the touching was on fire from both of us. I felt like kissing her at one point, but didn't do it until the second the bus arrived on the bus stop and ran as fast as I could to get the bus.
Between second and third date
The second date was probably in beginning of October. Then she travelled to another country where she actually called me to hear how it was going, and told me how it was going with her vacation. She called me again the next day, but I ignored it because it was late and I was tired. Besides sending a couple of pics, she didn't bother calling or texting me while on her vacation. Good, I needed some time away from her anyway.
She returned late October out of the blue. We tried to set up the third date soon after, but it was damn hard. I had just gotten a new job and didn't really have time, and she kept inviting me to those events that I didn't even give a second thought. At one point I pushed her "let me chase him (for some time)"-button by saying that I was not interested in those events because there were other things I would rather love to do with her. She just said okay, but a couple of hours after she was begging me to come by her because she was home alone, and all that. This was my cue to (finally) turn our conversations sexual. I can't see all my texts because we have sent way too many, both setting up date and some playful ones, but I have a good history with texting in a playful and subtle kind of way and did so with her (I can post examples if anyone wants to see them). But because it had taken too long to find a date that worked for the both of us, she was going cold again.
During all this, she actually tried to set up spontaneous dates, and I did try a couple of times too, but it just didn't pan out.
Setting up the third date - meeting resistance to sex
Last week I suggested this Tuesday (yesterday), to which she agreed. So we found a date, now all that remained was the plan. I had suggested my place first, and she didn't disagree. But this conversation happened on
I decided to call her because I could feel it would to take too long to text about this. The call lasted 45 minutes, but only felt like 15 lol. During the call, I made sure beforehand that she got these messages
When I had told her what I thought was necessary, I knew I had to deal with the rest of her "worries".
She was not fully convinced because I apprantly didn't understand her side of things and should be a gentleman about it. But of course I did understand her perspective - I was just offering her mine. And I added that yes, it may have been a long time and all that, but it's not like we can't recover from where we left. I mean, it's not like she would tell a new friend she hadn't seen in a month "let's meet again and start all over". She laughed at this and understood my point.
But she was still afraid of getting caught in the moment, to which I said "if we have a moment, let's not miss it. If we don't get caught in it, we won't miss anything anyway."
She wanted me to promise nothing happened at my place. "I can't promise it won't happen. I can't even promise it will happen either."
She still tried to throw up some resistance I didn't bother persist through. At last I was just laughing and saying "come on! Seriously, come on. We are going to have a great time no matter what happens." The important thing here was to give her the message that she had nothing to lose, and not that her idea was bad. I wanted to tell her she was overthinking things, but that would be telling her she was worried about things that shouldn't be thought about and probably taking things too much at face value. Bad idea in my eyes.
But finally she agreed to come.
The third date
She arrived around 6 pm and I was getting a callback by a friend the second she hugged me. She used the bathroom while I talked to my friend, and then the call ended. Her and I talked for a few seconds until we just stood there in a hug, and I decide to lift her up and take her to the kitchen for no reason at all. We just stood there and talked for like 30 seconds until we kissed each other, and she has the biggest, softest lips I have ever kissed. I walked her to my bed (10 steps from my kitchen) and sat down with her on top of me. Flipped her over to be on top of her, dry humped her while I kissed her, and realized shortly after grabbing and licking her small boobs that she is VERY sensitive! She orgasmed multiple times from foreplay alone which was very overwhelming to watch.
After we had completely undressed each other, I grabbed a condom and had a hard time maintaining my hard on. But it got hard again so I could put my hard dick in her WV (wet vagina). The first time didn't feel that good, but we tried a couple of positions: adapted missionary, her on top (her favorite, no doubt) and doggy. During doggy, my dick got soft again, and I decided to take a break. We used that time to finally catch up, and she was all over me. Wouldn't stop kissing me and all that. Eventually, we both got caught up in a new moment where she had another round of multiple orgasms. I only fucked her missionary this time, and I came myself after 5 minutes while her legs over my shoulders. I fucked her for another 30 seconds after that just because I could And NO resistance at all.
We laid down and half-ass-cuddled. I did some teasing with a blindfold on her which made her come once. She put the blindfold on me and eventually sat on top of me and humped my naked dick with her naked pussy. Guess what? She did come once again in her effort to tease me. Bad girl
At this point, It was getting close to 9 pm. We got to a pizzeria and ate before she took off. Back to casual talking at this point and saying goodbye until next Saturday.
Things I did good
1. "Fought" through her resistance.
2. Didn't give in to her frame (not more than necessary, anyway)
3. Didn't give up even though it was tempting
Things that could have been better
1. Stating my interest for her earlier.
2. Instead of playing around by saying I don't have time for her events, just tell her I don't want to if I can't counteroffer
3. Build sexy vibe earlier, and less boyfriend vibe
Thanks for reading if you made it this far. Would love some feedback
Matching
Dana and I matched on Tinder two months ago. Like myself, she is Middle Eastern and relatively modern.
First date
She dropped her number after a couple of texts because she wanted me to join for some kind of cultural event. I declined, but told her I would love to meet her afterwards. She declined, and this is where I thought this could be one girl I could gain some "real" experience from.
We met in a coffee shop a week after we matched. We had some great talk, I initiated casual touch early on, and she felt relaxed in my company. When our first date was ending, I had asked if she had some food or drinks from her country I could try next time we met which could happen at my place. She just said "it sounds like fun", but didn't really say yes or no.
Second date
Our second date was like planning how to get to hell. She didn't feel like coming to my place anyway and counteroffered to walk around the city. But I had school till late afternoon and a professional meeting in the evening, so just wanted to get home to relax before the meeting. She was also leaving the country in a couple days for two weeks, and I wanted to make sure I had laid her before this. But it seems like I couldn't convince her at this point, and I hadn't really stated my interest in her anyway and would just make her look like just another fuck this way. So forgot about it (and made one of my casual partners come to my place instead
). She asked me to reconsider, but I told her it was unlikely.Then something happened: my last class was cancelled. I had 2 more hours before getting home to fuck my other girl and she couldn't make it sooner anyway. Called Dana to find out if she was in the city, and she was on her way indeed. When we met, I had 1 hour to make my interest known to her before getting on the bus. We met close to a church and talked casually for a while before entering the church. We tried to find a way to get to the top illegally, but we would be "sinning" if we did (I have used this "sinning" frame ever since to subtlely hint that I am such a bad man haha). We went outside again 20 minutes after, and she wanted me to go one way with her, but my bus was the other direction. Her reaction was so funny because she thought I was going to be her shopping guy for a second. Told her I was still getting home to chill before that meeting, and it completely messed with her head that I had not given up on that. We sat somewhere close to the bus stop, and the touching was on fire from both of us. I felt like kissing her at one point, but didn't do it until the second the bus arrived on the bus stop and ran as fast as I could to get the bus.
Between second and third date
The second date was probably in beginning of October. Then she travelled to another country where she actually called me to hear how it was going, and told me how it was going with her vacation. She called me again the next day, but I ignored it because it was late and I was tired. Besides sending a couple of pics, she didn't bother calling or texting me while on her vacation. Good, I needed some time away from her anyway.
She returned late October out of the blue. We tried to set up the third date soon after, but it was damn hard. I had just gotten a new job and didn't really have time, and she kept inviting me to those events that I didn't even give a second thought. At one point I pushed her "let me chase him (for some time)"-button by saying that I was not interested in those events because there were other things I would rather love to do with her. She just said okay, but a couple of hours after she was begging me to come by her because she was home alone, and all that. This was my cue to (finally) turn our conversations sexual. I can't see all my texts because we have sent way too many, both setting up date and some playful ones, but I have a good history with texting in a playful and subtle kind of way and did so with her (I can post examples if anyone wants to see them). But because it had taken too long to find a date that worked for the both of us, she was going cold again.
During all this, she actually tried to set up spontaneous dates, and I did try a couple of times too, but it just didn't pan out.
Setting up the third date - meeting resistance to sex
Last week I suggested this Tuesday (yesterday), to which she agreed. So we found a date, now all that remained was the plan. I had suggested my place first, and she didn't disagree. But this conversation happened on
Saturday
Her: looking forward to see you Tuesday <3
Me: me too
Her: I'd like to wait to see your place. Any other suggestions?
Me: We could be at yours on Saturday
Her: I just want to be at some cosy place and talk because it's been a while. Your place could be cosy, but wouldn't it get too cosy? (It's ironic of course that my place would be too cosy, but she doesn't mind me coming over to her place later. Girls...
Me: nothing wrong with too cosy
Her: I see. But to me it's different
Sunday
Me: Of course we need to find our wave length again, but we can do that with a hot drink and some chill music, no pressure
Monday
Her: so hey, still up for tomorrow? I'm not ready for sex, and it's probably going to happen at your place. It's not that I don't want you, but I want to wait. I know I'll just get caught up in the moment at your place. Let me know what you think
Me: will call you later
I decided to call her because I could feel it would to take too long to text about this. The call lasted 45 minutes, but only felt like 15 lol. During the call, I made sure beforehand that she got these messages
- I may write with subtle tones, but that's because I'm just enjoying myself.
Sex may or may not happen, who really cares
Sex is supposed to get two people closer, not further away
When I had told her what I thought was necessary, I knew I had to deal with the rest of her "worries".
She was not fully convinced because I apprantly didn't understand her side of things and should be a gentleman about it. But of course I did understand her perspective - I was just offering her mine. And I added that yes, it may have been a long time and all that, but it's not like we can't recover from where we left. I mean, it's not like she would tell a new friend she hadn't seen in a month "let's meet again and start all over". She laughed at this and understood my point.
But she was still afraid of getting caught in the moment, to which I said "if we have a moment, let's not miss it. If we don't get caught in it, we won't miss anything anyway."
She wanted me to promise nothing happened at my place. "I can't promise it won't happen. I can't even promise it will happen either."
She still tried to throw up some resistance I didn't bother persist through. At last I was just laughing and saying "come on! Seriously, come on. We are going to have a great time no matter what happens." The important thing here was to give her the message that she had nothing to lose, and not that her idea was bad. I wanted to tell her she was overthinking things, but that would be telling her she was worried about things that shouldn't be thought about and probably taking things too much at face value. Bad idea in my eyes.
But finally she agreed to come.
The third date
She arrived around 6 pm and I was getting a callback by a friend the second she hugged me. She used the bathroom while I talked to my friend, and then the call ended. Her and I talked for a few seconds until we just stood there in a hug, and I decide to lift her up and take her to the kitchen for no reason at all. We just stood there and talked for like 30 seconds until we kissed each other, and she has the biggest, softest lips I have ever kissed. I walked her to my bed (10 steps from my kitchen) and sat down with her on top of me. Flipped her over to be on top of her, dry humped her while I kissed her, and realized shortly after grabbing and licking her small boobs that she is VERY sensitive! She orgasmed multiple times from foreplay alone which was very overwhelming to watch.
After we had completely undressed each other, I grabbed a condom and had a hard time maintaining my hard on. But it got hard again so I could put my hard dick in her WV (wet vagina). The first time didn't feel that good, but we tried a couple of positions: adapted missionary, her on top (her favorite, no doubt) and doggy. During doggy, my dick got soft again, and I decided to take a break. We used that time to finally catch up, and she was all over me. Wouldn't stop kissing me and all that. Eventually, we both got caught up in a new moment where she had another round of multiple orgasms. I only fucked her missionary this time, and I came myself after 5 minutes while her legs over my shoulders. I fucked her for another 30 seconds after that just because I could
And NO resistance at all.We laid down and half-ass-cuddled. I did some teasing with a blindfold on her which made her come once. She put the blindfold on me and eventually sat on top of me and humped my naked dick with her naked pussy. Guess what? She did come once again in her effort to tease me. Bad girl
At this point, It was getting close to 9 pm. We got to a pizzeria and ate before she took off. Back to casual talking at this point and saying goodbye until next Saturday.
Things I did good
1. "Fought" through her resistance.
2. Didn't give in to her frame (not more than necessary, anyway)
3. Didn't give up even though it was tempting
Things that could have been better
1. Stating my interest for her earlier.
2. Instead of playing around by saying I don't have time for her events, just tell her I don't want to if I can't counteroffer
3. Build sexy vibe earlier, and less boyfriend vibe
Thanks for reading if you made it this far. Would love some feedback
