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More like politics, location, and the trend I've noticed.
A while back, I read Chase's comment about "unsexy minorities" and it is generally considered in pickup culture that Asian and Indian men seem to have it tough in the USA, especially with white American women.
Over the years I've noticed somewhat of a trend in this whole Asian and Indian guy setback in regards to getting hot girls, it tends to thrive in heavily liberal coastal areas like NYC and California. It is in these areas you see a ton of Asian and Indian women going for white guys, swearing off men of their own race, but very rarely would you see a white girl going for guys of either races.
From my personal experience of having grown up in San Francisco where it was at its absolute worst, I noticed it. You were almost supposed to understand that being Asian or Indian was a setback, it was just understood and people said it casually. I even met a guy in my college years in Arizona from New York who told me how he found it weird that I was dating white girls and that somewhat puzzled me, after all, wouldn't it actually be common to see Indian and Asian men dating women of various races in NYC?
I've also met Asian and Indian guys from various US states and immediately, I noticed a difference between ones who were from more red states like Texas versus ones who were from blue states like New York or California. The ones from blue states carried massive limiting beliefs about race, even a guy as confidence as me did having spent my adolescence in California, while the ones from red states didn't exactly pedestalize white girls or carry those major limiting beliefs about race, they just saw themselves as Americans.
No surprise, I saw these Asian and Indian men from red states having more success with women of other races and they seemed to assimilate into American culture easily. That's another thing, it seems like in places such as Texas for example, Asian and Indian guys seem to assimilate more readily as opposed to a place like California.
They say that conservatives hate minorities as a group but love them as individuals, liberals love minorities as a group but hate them as individuals.
I wonder how much this might play out among women as well. One can assume that women in NYC (regardless of race) and California are very likely to be liberals while those in Texas are likely to be conservatives. A politically liberal woman might pretend to care about racial injustice but when it comes down to it, she might also be the main one to swipe left on guys of certain minority groups on Tinder and ignore them on OkCupid.
What I think is happening is that conservatives are more likely to see someone as an individual first and foremost despite holding racial stereotypes while liberals are more likely to see someone as a part of their race, not really given them a chance to show themselves as individuals.
These areas are also major centers of media which means these women are all too aware of racial stereotypes
Asian and Indian men are "small"
Indian men are weird
Asian and especially Indian men are not respectful towards women's rights
It is just "not cool" to hookup with an Asian or Indian guy like it is with an Australian guy or a black guy
Take a place like Los Angeles where Hollywood is located or a major media center like NYC, most girls living in these areas will be aware of racial stereotypes simply because they're so much more exposed to media.
It's not only that, they will also continuously run into a lot of Asian and Indian men who are immigrants that might embody bad stereotypes of their race.
But black guys are having success in these areas so what's your excuse?
Precisely, but the truth is that black guys aren't viewed by American women in the same way as Asian and Indian men are or portrayed in such a way.
I am not saying women in coastal areas like NYC or California are more racist or even racist at all, what I am saying is that they are likely to put a ton of focus on racial stereotypes and what media tells them to put focus on (eg: how most "blonde bombshells" view the world). The media isn't too kind to Asian and especially Indian men which results in men of those races struggling a lot in areas where women are likely to put a ton of stock into media stereotypes.
Is what I said backed up by any studies?
Probably not but you might find a few things, a lot of the studies done on race and dating that show Asian men to be undesirable are likely done in these sorts of coastal liberal areas or regions.
PUA originated in a lot of these cities that can be considered strongly liberal in terms of politics.
What are your thoughts?
A while back, I read Chase's comment about "unsexy minorities" and it is generally considered in pickup culture that Asian and Indian men seem to have it tough in the USA, especially with white American women.
Over the years I've noticed somewhat of a trend in this whole Asian and Indian guy setback in regards to getting hot girls, it tends to thrive in heavily liberal coastal areas like NYC and California. It is in these areas you see a ton of Asian and Indian women going for white guys, swearing off men of their own race, but very rarely would you see a white girl going for guys of either races.
From my personal experience of having grown up in San Francisco where it was at its absolute worst, I noticed it. You were almost supposed to understand that being Asian or Indian was a setback, it was just understood and people said it casually. I even met a guy in my college years in Arizona from New York who told me how he found it weird that I was dating white girls and that somewhat puzzled me, after all, wouldn't it actually be common to see Indian and Asian men dating women of various races in NYC?
I've also met Asian and Indian guys from various US states and immediately, I noticed a difference between ones who were from more red states like Texas versus ones who were from blue states like New York or California. The ones from blue states carried massive limiting beliefs about race, even a guy as confidence as me did having spent my adolescence in California, while the ones from red states didn't exactly pedestalize white girls or carry those major limiting beliefs about race, they just saw themselves as Americans.
No surprise, I saw these Asian and Indian men from red states having more success with women of other races and they seemed to assimilate into American culture easily. That's another thing, it seems like in places such as Texas for example, Asian and Indian guys seem to assimilate more readily as opposed to a place like California.
They say that conservatives hate minorities as a group but love them as individuals, liberals love minorities as a group but hate them as individuals.
I wonder how much this might play out among women as well. One can assume that women in NYC (regardless of race) and California are very likely to be liberals while those in Texas are likely to be conservatives. A politically liberal woman might pretend to care about racial injustice but when it comes down to it, she might also be the main one to swipe left on guys of certain minority groups on Tinder and ignore them on OkCupid.
What I think is happening is that conservatives are more likely to see someone as an individual first and foremost despite holding racial stereotypes while liberals are more likely to see someone as a part of their race, not really given them a chance to show themselves as individuals.
These areas are also major centers of media which means these women are all too aware of racial stereotypes
Asian and Indian men are "small"
Indian men are weird
Asian and especially Indian men are not respectful towards women's rights
It is just "not cool" to hookup with an Asian or Indian guy like it is with an Australian guy or a black guy
Take a place like Los Angeles where Hollywood is located or a major media center like NYC, most girls living in these areas will be aware of racial stereotypes simply because they're so much more exposed to media.
It's not only that, they will also continuously run into a lot of Asian and Indian men who are immigrants that might embody bad stereotypes of their race.
But black guys are having success in these areas so what's your excuse?
Precisely, but the truth is that black guys aren't viewed by American women in the same way as Asian and Indian men are or portrayed in such a way.
I am not saying women in coastal areas like NYC or California are more racist or even racist at all, what I am saying is that they are likely to put a ton of focus on racial stereotypes and what media tells them to put focus on (eg: how most "blonde bombshells" view the world). The media isn't too kind to Asian and especially Indian men which results in men of those races struggling a lot in areas where women are likely to put a ton of stock into media stereotypes.
Is what I said backed up by any studies?
Probably not but you might find a few things, a lot of the studies done on race and dating that show Asian men to be undesirable are likely done in these sorts of coastal liberal areas or regions.
PUA originated in a lot of these cities that can be considered strongly liberal in terms of politics.
What are your thoughts?
