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ray_zorse

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I nearly didn't go to the pool today, was chilling at home after a few minor outings and doing housework, got rather into it and messaged the G-man that I probably wouldn't make it... he said he would be at the pool for another hour so I thought fuck it, I can finish the upstairs later, it's a hot day and I'll go have a swim. I had to do a quick errand via the market first, to grab some fruit, which turned out to be quite useful as I'll explain.

The approach

Chilled in the spa a ltitle, spent half an hour catching up with G-man when he went off to make a phone call and do his laps etc... sat in the sauna for a little bit then the pool... as I was re-entering the spa a cute woman in her mid 30s held the door for me so I gave her a big smile. She was wearing a black one-piece with white polka dots on it, I thought it was cute... she also had a fair bit of eyeliner on. I could not place her nationality, thought she might be Chinese but had to look twice. So I just sat in my corner stealing glances at her and she might've been doing the same, eventually everyone got out and I went over to her...
Me: I like your eyeliner!
Her: haha thank you
Me: what's your name?
Her: Lina
Me: Ina? (I don't have my hearing aids on, so I cannot hear too well, in fact I'm basically lipreading)
Her: ...
Me: Raymond (we make small talk which I cannot remember, I ask her if she's from the area, about her day and so on)

In the spa

It turns out she's a database specialist for the armed forces, she asks my profession and I say it is making women smile. She smiles. She asks my origins, I ask hers -- she's Mongolian. Hmm. She speaks Mongolian, Chinese and English. She's intrigued because I don't sound Aussie. Et cetera... she starts telling me about her job, meanwhile there is a little subtle incidental touch... just touch legs here and there... she's asking quite a lot of questions and I'm rewarding her for it with more incidental touch and engagement. I make various jokes about stealing secrets, etc.

Pretty soon I have my hand on her shoulder and I'm pulling her in to talk in my ear. I still can't hear her too well so I have to get her to talk slowly and loudly and halfway through each sentence there'll be a word I can't get and we pause while she spells it out or otherwise explains. After a while my hands are all over her body and she's reciprocating. By this time the spa is full again but I ignore everyone else. I can see in my peripherals that at least one girl is watching us. It's hilarious, because by the tone of our conversation we hardly know each other, yet we're getting physical as fuck.

I have her turn around and give her a back massage. Eventually she turns back around to face me and I dial the talk right down and the sexual vibe right up... looking deeply into her eyes with my eyes slightly closed and a sexual smile... not saying much just letting tension build... she's doing much the same thing. I put my hand between her legs for a bit. I've got a boner by this time... she's feeling up my body and when she gets near that area I nod imperceptibly each time. She gets it. She incidentally touches my dick once or twice but she isn't bold enough to go further. I say "let's grab a sauna"... and lead her there by hand.

In the sauna

I'm hoping there'll be no-one in the sauna and I'll be able to get a proper makeout. One guy is lying down and can be safely ignored, but another older guy is sitting up, so I do not commence the makeout. We don't say much for the first little bit, just hold hands and look into each other's eyes and hug each other a bit... after a while we start talking a little more, but I cannot hear her properly... so I say "okay I need my hearing aids... lets go get changed and then go for a coffee". She's down.

I'm a bit anxious at this point because Leticia is coming over to stay the night at my house in like half an hour (she's at church while this is going on), but this woman is hot to trot, she needs the D now, and if just I get her number it won't fly later.

In the reception

I lead her back out to the reception area and tell her to meet here in 10min, she points to a couch 10 metres away and so I nod. I then say "you're a woman so you'll probably take longer" and spank her. I grab a fairly chaste kiss on the lips then go get changed. It takes me only a few minutes. I quickly message Leticia "gonna be late home hope it's okay". I realize that I still have the fruit in the shopping bags and I have an evil idea. When I come out, G-man is there and he's seen the whole thing. He's amused. I sit on the couch telling G-man I've got to wait for this woman. We chat a little and he asks me if he should go. I hesitate a little and nod, so he goes. Another 10min later she finally comes out and we're golden.

The pull

I tell her she looks lovely (she does). So I firstly lead her out into the street and towards the tram stop. My backpack falls off my shoulder as we run across the road on a blinking red man, I readjust myself and say "I have too much stuff, I'm gonna have to drop off the shopping". She doesn't say anything, she's down. I lead her by the hand the 3 blocks or so to my house, making pull talk -- the weather, etc. Halfway there I notice her tracksuit says "Blahblah Island" which is a very small and out-of-the-way place in Malaysia that I happen to have been to. I'm amazed so we talk about Malaysian tourism for some time, she's been lots and so have I, to same places. This gets us most of the way home.

The lift

Naturally I kiss her as soon as we get in the lift, I start off pretty light and nibbly and by the time we get to 3rd floor we are going for it. (The lift in my building is old and pretty slow, haha).

My place

I let her in, instructing her to take her shoes off, and she comments I have a lovely place. (I've just spent the day cleaning and it's spotless, including the windows etc). I tell her I will make her a cup of tea and put the kettle on. Hahahaha well that was pretty much the end of that. I lead her to the couch and start to escalate. The only real resistance is with her top and her under-top, but she complies pretty readily. I'm medium hard, I have her suck my dick a little but I'm not really feeling it so I have her give me a handjob and this goes okay (I'm thinking about how awesome it would have been if she'd given me this handjob in the spa in front of all the other people and getting quite involved in this fantasy, I also verbalize it for her). So I throw a condom on and have her climb on top. It's lovely. We get a good rhythm going with me gripping her hard by the shoulders, breasts, arse, etc to force her down onto my cock. My only concern is I'm only about 90% hard but I'm in the moment and enjoying it. My mistake is to turn her over and try missionary, it goes okay but I'm not really feeling it and eventually I get soft and have to pull out. Whoops.

So I tell her I've gone a bit soft and have her play with me a little but I'm feeling a little anxious now and it's not happening. Eventually we try a 69, I don't really like this position because concentrating hard on giving her head distracts me from my own pleasure and she's sucking on my soft cock and again, I'm not really feeling it. I finger her for quite a while as well and go for the g-spot etc, eventually I stop doing that and just lean over the back of the couch while she sucks on me, somehow we find a rhythm and eventually I start to moan and she's doing something really awesome with her lips, I want to come but I say "fuck" (I can hardly speak) and put it in her, this time I go in raw in the adapted missionary and fuck her hard. I tell her I'm going to come and it takes me quite a while after that, I think I'm going to lose it but eventually I get back on track and I hold my ejaculation for a long time as I come, then finally pull out and shoot it on her stomach.

She plays with my cum a bit, I put some in her mouth and make some strings with it that end up on her chin. All good fun. I grab some tissues but it's hopeless so I tell her to come upstairs and have a shower. We have a shower and I try to finger her to orgasm in the shower since I'm aware she hasn't come yet, and I'm hoping to get her in my rotation. Hmm. But eventually we just get clean and I get dressed in a new outfit for the evening and give her a towel, we head downstairs and I say "let's exchange numbers" and we do that. I then tell her I'm really embarrassed but actually I have someone coming over for dinner, like maybe now... she believes me, I think because of how I am dressed. I tell her I would have liked to play with her a little longer, and we make a date for the coming Thursday. I tidy up a bit and then walk her out into the street with lots of cuddles and looking into each other's eyes. She seems pretty happy with how things turned out.

Wrap up

Meet to lay: 45~60mins, not 100% sure but less than an hour. Haha will have trouble bettering this in future. This woman Lina is golden.

I was also planning to make love to Leticia for the first time after about 6mths anticipation, since she had invited herself over to stay the night. Leticia came over shortly after this and I served her a meal and dessert and we watched a sexy film until she turned it off. But unfortunately after much agonizing I had decided to be honest with Leticia that I see other women and this did not go down so great. She needed time to think about things, was down for some makeouts with a little coaxing, but kept losing the thread and becoming distracted then pushing me off, which is fair enough I suppose, since I hurt her feelings. The reason I did it this way was I felt it would be more dishonest to tell her this after making love to her. She changed her plans and left, I was sad but I had to let her go, I knew this would happen. So I did not get the LR x2, but at least I feel I have acted with integrity. Hmm. She messages me now to thank me for the meal and say goodnight.

*I forgot to say that while I was anxious and Lina was sucking on my limp dick, the thing that got me going again was noticing she was mid-to-late 30s and had a perfectly smooth belly and pink nipples, this isn't too common since she would normally have stretch marks from childbirth and darker nipples. So I constructed a long fantasy around her showing me her nipples and saying "I don't feel a woman, put a baby in me so I can have darker nipples"... this was extremely erotic.
 

Dern

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You physically escalated like a boss. Well done.
 
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snipefield

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Dang Ray, this is straight of a romance novel. Very impressive, congrats!! Lina sounds like a fun lady.
 

ray_zorse

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Thanks guys.

This one was almost too easy so I suppose I don't get millions of points for like dealing with bitch shield, ASD, cockblocking friends, white knight, LMR, witty rejoinders, dominance, impossible logistics etc... at the same time it reminds me how far I've come, kind of surprised me, like when girls suddenly kiss me on the lips in a crowded nightclub, that kinda shit would have been incomprehensible a year ago but as a newly minted high value man I just have to take it in my stride.

The other thing that occurs to me is this pull, and doing it in the time limit, was almost wholly based on good logistics and I cannot count the number of hours spent online obsessively browsing new listings, calling agents, dragging the kids along to open houses on weekends etc, all the while meeting hot chicks in the city and trying to level up my conversation while cursing my shithole logistics... well it's all paying off now. So my message to anyone struggling out there: Get your logistics sorted. No excuses. It's a big investment but your life will be so much easier as a result.

Anyway, to the point: She didn't respond to 2 texts, so I thought not a keeper, but she finally got back to me now as follows:
Her: hi. ray, thank u for u note. it is lovely. i am all good. busy with our databases integration. hope see u r hsppy and enjiy life. i shall remember the beautiful moment. keep in touch.
I'm gathering from this she doesn't really want a round 2. I don't care. It's a nice note.

Also, I'm trying to rebuild attainability with Leticia without chasing. I did call her tonight as she has not been messaging me as usual. Just told her I had been thinking of her. Spoke for a bit over 10min and it was a nice conversation. Like normal. I'm focusing on just being completely congruent to before.

Prior to this I did about 5 or 6 approaches in the city, was in my head a little but to my credit snapped out of it when I finally saw someone I liked, dyed blonde Japanese woman in a bottle shop. We exchanged a lot of compliments, asked her out like 3 times nogo haha. A pair of girls then approached me, IDGAF about the JP woman anymore so talked to them but I was too compliant. Had I been more of a dick it might have spiked attraction in her, but as it was she just melted away. Hmm.

Ray
 

RDawg

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Ray

This is actually some pretty great stuff, I must admit. If you slayed this girl in the sauna, that would of been AWESOME! However, you were still able to physically escalate with her a bit (e.g., the hugging and massages), which is pretty awesome too. Solid job on getting her back to your place quickly and realizing that if you just grabbed her number and tried to set-up a date, it probably wouldn't happen. Man, the thought of slaying in a sauna though, just sounds awesome haha ;)

Great stuff man!

Rdawg
 

ray_zorse

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@radeng

You are totally right, it did come off defensive, and set a frame like "I have to admit this bad thing". I had not anticipated that. I ad been planning to emphasize more that I love spending time with her and that she is important to me. Although I did say this it came out as more of a by-the-way. Unfortunately her stone cold silence put a fair bit of social pressure on me and I did not handle it in a particularly savvy way.

However, having decided on a course of action I had to go through with it and not pussy out (this is a big difference between me now and me some years ago when e.g. I employed a useless friend for like 6mths when I wanted to sack him but couldn't). To be fair I did not just randomly decide to do this and fuck myself up, as I'll explain, but anyway if I could redo I wouldn't handle it like this. What happened was exactly what you described, plus it was like in this post: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9788&p=47513#p47513. I felt a million times better, having taken action... now I feel worse, hahaha.

Anyway, problem was I had set a boyfriend frame, by introducing her to my kids, seeing her several times a week, calling her several times a week, taking her on a group outing to night market with some colleagues, taking her to the school (this wasn't my intention but a solution to a logistical issue that cropped up, she handled it well and met a few of my friends who are parents at the school), and in the final instance agreeing to her staying the night... I did these things thinking I was OK for relationship, but when push came to shove I couldn't break the other relationships I had built, more importantly want to keep progressing as a seducer. Oh well.

@RDawg

Thanks this means a lot coming from you you sly dawg ;)

Actually the sauna was a bit well traficked to consider getting undressed there, I was more thinking of grabbing a makeout instead of the lay, due to time pressure, but I am glad I went for the lay, hahaha, especially as Leticia got held up at church so I would've been home with my dick in my hand thinking of the lay I should've got. However, a handjob in the spa would've been wicked, could've come in my shorts no worries haha, as an added bonus wouldn't have had to readjust my obvious boner as I got out, hahaha it was pretty funny that, forgot to mention it in the above report.

Haha keep slaying. ;)
 

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Ray:

Loved this LR man. Solid stuff. Sounds like a cute girl (I have a really big weak spot for Asian chicks) and what a scenario. Imagine if you pulled her in the sauna! But nevertheless a great pull.

ray_zorse said:
So I just sat in my corner stealing glances at her and she might've been doing the same, eventually everyone got out and I went over to her...
Me: I like your eyeliner!
Her: haha thank you
Me: what's your name?
Her: Lina
Me: Ina? (I don't have my hearing aids on, so I cannot hear too well, in fact I'm basically lipreading)
Her: ...
Me: Raymond (we make small talk which I cannot remember, I ask her if she's from the area, about her day and so on)

Good easy no-nonsense approach.

ray_zorse said:
meanwhile there is a little subtle incidental touch... just touch legs here and there... she's asking quite a lot of questions and I'm rewarding her for it with more incidental touch and engagement. I make various jokes about stealing secrets, etc.

Glad you picked up on this.

ray_zorse said:
After a while my hands are all over her body and she's reciprocating. By this time the spa is full again but I ignore everyone else. I can see in my peripherals that at least one girl is watching us. It's hilarious, because by the tone of our conversation we hardly know each other, yet we're getting physical as fuck.

What a lovely feeling. This is clear physical escalation and could have been a great time to move her as well, perhaps. But I like how you waited and turned up the sexuality, then did this:

ray_zorse said:
Eventually she turns back around to face me and I dial the talk right down and the sexual vibe right up... looking deeply into her eyes with my eyes slightly closed and a sexual smile... not saying much just letting tension build... she's doing much the same thing. I put my hand between her legs for a bit. I've got a boner by this time... she's feeling up my body and when she gets near that area I nod imperceptibly each time. She gets it. She incidentally touches my dick once or twice but she isn't bold enough to go further. I say "let's grab a sauna"... and lead her there by hand.

ray_zorse said:
if just I get her number it won't fly later.

Great instincts.

ray_zorse said:
My backpack falls off my shoulder as we run across the road on a blinking red man, I readjust myself and say "I have too much stuff, I'm gonna have to drop off the shopping". She doesn't say anything, she's down.

LOVED THIS! What a dominant man - great plausible deniability, you didn't mention a thing about staying there at your place and you just led, led, led! Very good sir.

ray_zorse said:
I let her in, instructing her to take her shoes off, and she comments I have a lovely place. (I've just spent the day cleaning and it's spotless, including the windows etc). I tell her I will make her a cup of tea and put the kettle on. Hahahaha well that was pretty much the end of that.

Beautiful transition to your place - no awkwardness, maintaining a dominant frame and she's still following your lead.

ray_zorse said:
But unfortunately after much agonizing I had decided to be honest with Leticia that I see other women and this did not go down so great. She needed time to think about things, was down for some makeouts with a little coaxing, but kept losing the thread and becoming distracted then pushing me off, which is fair enough I suppose, since I hurt her feelings.

Some women honestly just can't handle the idea of a man seeing other girls when they like him. In my opinion, unless you've already talked about being exclusive and/or committed, I believe you should ALWAYS LET THE GIRL BRING THIS IDEA UP, and also ALWAYS LET THE GIRL ASK IF YOU'RE SEEING OTHER WOMEN. Never tell a girl this yourself unless she brings it up first, and if/when she does you should be honest about it. But at the same time, you need to make it clear that you enjoy being single, and that you don't think people should get into relationships quickly, because it just ruins things.

radeng said:
Telling your lady out of nowhere that you see other people will hardly ever work in your favor, as you probably assumed before doing it. The reason it won't and the reason you did tell her is a mindset issue IMO. You were looking at what you were doing as wrong before you gave her a chance to assess it. When you told her, you probably framed it ever so subtlety in a way that says "hey, I have to confess this problem/wrong thing to you."

Exactly. There's nothing wrong with dating multiple women as long as you're not dishonest, but you shouldn't feel shame about not telling all women that you're seeing others.
 

ray_zorse

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@GP, @radeng you are both so right, I learned a lot from this experience but you guys obviously have walked the path before me :) Luckily, things have not been as bad as they could have, in fact quite the reverse. I put a report here: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8232&p=48239#p48239

@GP thanks for the detailed breakdown, it is very much appreciated and quite an honour coming from you. :)

Ray
 

BarryS1

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Sounds like an awesome day Ray, plus you had the energy for dinner afterwards!

It turns out she's a database specialist for the armed forces, she asks my profession and I say it is making women smile. She smiles.
ZINGGGG

I lead her back out to the reception area and tell her to meet here in 10min, she points to a couch 10 metres away and so I nod. I then say "you're a woman so you'll probably take longer" and spank her.

Oh Ho ho!

*I forgot to say that while I was anxious and Lina was sucking on my limp dick, the thing that got me going again was noticing she was mid-to-late 30s and had a perfectly smooth belly and pink nipples, this isn't too common since she would normally have stretch marks from childbirth and darker nipples. So I constructed a long fantasy around her showing me her nipples and saying "I don't feel a woman, put a baby in me so I can have darker nipples"... this was extremely erotic.

Huh, I didn’t know that. I sometimes get uncomfortable with commitment/baby jokes like that, but she is mid-to-late 30s. I've banged girls w/in that age bracket and it always seems normal for them to make jokes like that. Maybe they talk about babies so much, it's natural for them to joke about it.

Grand Pooba said:
ray_zorse said:
But unfortunately after much agonizing I had decided to be honest with Leticia that I see other women and this did not go down so great. She needed time to think about things, was down for some makeouts with a little coaxing, but kept losing the thread and becoming distracted then pushing me off, which is fair enough I suppose, since I hurt her feelings.

Some women honestly just can't handle the idea of a man seeing other girls when they like him. In my opinion, unless you've already talked about being exclusive and/or committed, I believe you should ALWAYS LET THE GIRL BRING THIS IDEA UP, and also ALWAYS LET THE GIRL ASK IF YOU'RE SEEING OTHER WOMEN. Never tell a girl this yourself unless she brings it up first, and if/when she does you should be honest about it. But at the same time, you need to make it clear that you enjoy being single, and that you don't think people should get into relationships quickly, because it just ruins things.

I agree. I see a common theme on this site about don't ask, don't tell and not creating your own objections. Looking back, I noticed in situations where I'll do an aggressive direct approach or have my female friends around me, the girl will pop the question sooner. For example, I have had cold-approach girls on a first date call me out and say, "You know, that never happens to me. I bet you go to that store all the time and are dating multiple girls." In a social circle situation (which is newer for me), I've had girls ask, "Who was that other girl you were with at the event? My friend saw you two holding hands, ect. walking down the street."

Don't apologize for it Ray, you are an awesome pimp and I hope to see more reports :)
 
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