FR Princess

[Skippy]

Background​

How we met: Daygame approach last year with the “are you single” opener.
Date Structure: Met at a rooftop, walked for 40 min, went to a bar. Total time 3hrs
Last year she kept deflecting on meeting up even though we’d message each other paragraphs back and forth (bad habit, I don’t do that anymore) I text her that I’m back in town and at first she didn’t know who it was (she never saved contacts apparently). I soft close because she tells me she’s in the city for the day but then she says she wants to watch the barbie move.
So I good morning ping her a couple days later and she says she’ll be in the city for some event. I’m thinking I can meet up with her afterwards but she asks if I want to go with her… I’m thinking this already sounds sus but I roll with it because it’s always been a hassle with getting her out 1-1.

First Venue​

So I text her when I’m on my way to the bar and I don’t get any response. So I arrive at the bar and just chill with a drink. I don’t text her anything and I haven’t heard from her either. Half an hour later I’m thinking she’s ghosted or something and so I don’t want to give her the satisfaction of knowing I waited at the bar getting stood up so I just don’t text her anything.
The bar is dead and it certainly doesn’t look like theres any event going on. I’m considering ditching but then I see someone who might be her so I go up to her and it is indeed her. We hug and she asks when I got here. I just say I arrived about 10-15 min ago. At least she’s still as hot as I remembered
Turns out the ‘event’ was just one of those ‘social meetup group’ events where they organize ‘mixers’ or whatever. In reality it’s usually a sausage fest of normie dudes and there will be maybe 3 girls there …all mid usually.

She pretty quickly starts bossing me around, at first it’s subtle with deciding to sit in a closed off part of the bar and her shit tests are already starting ‘being surprised that I’m familiar with the rooftop’, telling me to sit down in a commanding way. The second we sit on the sofa, another dude pops up and asks if we’re here for the meetup. Jesus. So it’s the 3 of us making basic chit chat in a remote part of the bar where nobody will come. I noticed when she would talk to me she would be twirling her hair a little bit. The dude was controling the conversation with basic chit chat about where we’re from and what we do where we’ve lived before and we all decide that around 8 we’ll go to the main bit to see if the crowd has grown yet. He asked us how we knew each other and she said “He came up to me a year ago and I’ve only known him for 5 min” “he does this a lot” (I don’t know where she got this from) She also gives the dude some shit for wearing a suit and just getting off work.

I don’t participate too much in this because I’m already in a sour mood and I figure I’ll just wait until we move to the rest of the bar. We walk over to the main section of the bar and that’s when I start engaging her more, asking her what’s new with her this past year. She sits with me at a sofa and I’m able to run some proper stimulation stuff while talking about travel and where she’s recently been. She’s getting stimulated by all this very noticeably but otherwise not giving me much.
She says she can tell I have a SoCal vibe because I talk slowly and have a very calm demeanor. And she contrasts it with new yorkers
Then she starts bossing me around a bit “go say hi to everyone. See arent you glad you’re making friends?” So anyway I say hi to the rest of the people at the meetup and just as expected, it’s a bunch of chodes. We get pulled into being introduced to another guy and an older woman I’ll call M. When M starts talking to me the guy takes it as an opportunity to try talking to the girl.
As I was talking to M, I had a sudden realization. Here I was in this bar that I’ve been to several times in more chaotic situations. I’ve spent the entire week approaching dozens of girls. I just spent my weekend approaching tons of girls in bars and bus stops, going home at 4am. I’ve been working on my game intensely these past 5 months. These guys at the meetup are all chodes and haven’t even done a fraction of that. So then I just relaxed, focused all my attention on M and basically didn’t give a shit what the girl was doing. She was bouncing around between guys and getting bored. I meanwhile had M isolated on the couch next to me and she was hooked strongly. Sure enough the girl came back and I promptly ditched M to go take some pictures. The girl followed me (lets call her HBJazz) and wanted to help take some pictures of me. She also brought my drink over to take pictues with. so we were on a couch secluded from the rest. And i bet it was a plan on her end so that I wouldn’t go back and sit with M when I wanted to get my drink. M was a little battty though.

At this point it’s windy and so I tell her lets go to another bar and this bar is lame. She readily agrees but then she says arent you going to finish your drink? I said I had enough. And she;s like okay I’ll finish it for you . and instead of sipping from the straw, she sips it from the side of the glass (not a good sign in my book) She says “here in ny we finish our drinks” I tell her “well in SoCal we don’t finish mediocre drinks”

Walking To Bar​

So she insisted on walking 40 min to the bar I had in mind. This was a big mistake on my end to go along with walking as it wasted a lot of time. I had already wasted about an hour with her meetup group bullshit. So I should have just insisted on an uber.
She tells me how it’s easy for guys to meet people bauese they can just go up to anyone and introduce themselves. She says for a girl it’s a lot harder. So I had her imagine if she saw me walking somewhere and if she thought I was really cute, how would she try and talk to me. As I’m typing this I’m realizing I missed an amazing opportunity to have her act it out right then and there! SHIT SHIT SHIT. Since we’re walking it’d be so easy.
She asks if I want to invite my friends to the bar and I say no I don’t have any friends. Then she asks if I want to invite her friends to the bar. And I say “maybe I want it to be just the two of us” and she shuts up.

On the walk I was setting a lot of frames of freedom, going after what you want, making decisions spontaneously. She was resonating with it well

The bar​

Had some trouble finding the bar and the outside looks a bit seedy so she jokes that I’m taking her to a gay bar or something. Inside she really likes the bar which I think was just her qualifying to me honestly because I just picked a random divey bar that had corner seating. We look over the drinks menu (oh and back at the meetup group the guy had asked her why she wasn’t drinking and she said how she isnt drinking alcohol this month) She says she’ll get the same drink I’m having but instead of going with me to the bar she tucks in her legs and ushers me through to the bar to order :O
I feel like my conversation was more connecty rather than arousal focused here. I talked about her parents and asked her if they were overbearing and said how my sister faced so much more pressure from my parents because she was a girl (not really tbh they just worried about her safety more) but she ate it up, talk about how women are shamed more for sex and go into purity gambit. Talking about how in college I realized I wasn’t relgious because the concept of purity wasn’t acceptable to me. At first she thought I was gonna confess to her that I was bi or something and her face turned super serious and she said “so what did you realize in college??” I said “Oh just that I’m comfortable with sex despite having the religious background which is past me now” And she said “ohhhh”

I was a little slow with the physial esalation. I started off by giving her a low-five when we both said we were living our best lives these past two years. And then I put my elbow up on the bar bench but I notice her turn towards me more when I did that (we were originally sitting side by side) so brought my arm back instead of wrapping it around her seating. I decide to just arouse her with SOT’s drop down into fun positive and suggest a pull from the items I had seeded earlier.
At some point she was talking about how she's actually a really wholesome person even though people seem to think she's the type who goes out and parties a lot. So I asked her what is it that's wholesome about her to get her qualifying.

At some point, I go into fantasy vs desire and she says how some fantasies that guys may have like threesomes are maybe not desires so I talk about how attainability seems to be one of the distinguishing qualities between them . and while some fantasies have gotten really populare lately like bdsm due to fifty shades of gray, things like choking, bondage, and orgasm control can only become desires when its with someone you feel safe and comfortable with. A little while later I mention how girls can have 8 types of orgasms (I segued into it but don’t remember how) and she said “you really did your research” and she starts playing with her hair again. I say “I told you college was a busy time”
I drop down into talking about cali and what excites her about moving there the most and when I sense she’s in a positive mood, I down my glass of wine and suggest the stuff I had seeded earlier back at my apartment. She says she’s good and that it’s getting late because she has a 1 hr commute. So I think okay I’m going to just remain calm, rebuild the vibe hit another sot and try the same thing again. This time, I put my arm around her chair more blatantly and she could feel my thumb pressing on the side of her body and she wasn't moving. I would find excuses to compare hand sizes and check out her rings and stuff but she wouldn’t keep her hand there for too long. But also not hurriedly removing it either.
Pretty soon we get into another SOT. I think it was passion? I don't remember but she says again that she really needs to get going and I didn't get a chance for a second pull attempt. I also don't think it would've worked.

She ‘commands’ me to walk her to the station and as we're walking out the bar asks me if I closed my tab.

What I did Well​

Focusing on M and just running the usual game on her instead of trying to follow HBJazz around the bar helped things.

What I could do better​

Spoiler: What I could've done better

Based on feedback I got on this, heres what I've concluded for learnings.

1. I should've realized much sooner that she's a princess archetype and called her out for giving a lot of commands. Not sure how the calling out works. sth like “wow are you always this bossy or is it only with his you secretly have a crush on” with a smirk whenever she gives a command?? Or ask her to say the magic word. Idk it's just incredibly weird people who make requests using statements instead of questions like “do this" vs “can you do this" how do you address that in general?

1. Absolutely should not have wasted 40 min walking to the bar (which was right by my place). Should have just insisted on the Uber and called it.

1. I should have texted her ‘here’ when I arrived at 7 and should not have gone up to her

1. It was pointed out to me that my physical escalation needs serious work and what I thought was micro escalating with comparing hand sizes and gradually putting my arm around her was actually not good physical escalation. (And I'm cringing when I write this sentence) So now I got no idea what to do there. I will reread the post on physical game, bringing back physical game, microescalation, and containment and I will make a fucking list of “physical actions" I can do to escalate the vibe. Another way is to not think about it and just do whatever I feel like doing in terms of touch and learn through experience and fuck ups. Risk creepy as 60yoc said. There's some pros and cons to each method. And whether or not I end up keeping physical game in my arsenal once I get super advanced is irrelevant because I think it'd be fun to master anyway.

1. I realize a lot of time the conversation was not “you and I" frame again. I know that this is something that'll level up my verbal game and the examples chase gave in one of my field reports were really solid. I actually used one of then in field and it had great effect. Only issue is I need to figure out how to break it down and learn how to apply it on the fly.

1. There are other directions to level up verbal game as well in the Rikeresque direction but now I need to focus on the basics which is vibe and sexual tension.