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Problems meeting women in a foreign country, because of learning their language?

John37

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I love travelling and do that a lot. I go to the unknown places without tourists. I visited every European country.

Two years ago I fell in love with a country in Eastern Europe (I am from Western Europe). I felt at home immediately. At a cultural festival I discovered the culture.
To make a long story short: Two years later, I visited the country a dozen of times, visited concerts and cultural events and I learned the language. Not fluently, the language is really hard, but I can write it pretty well. I want to live there and I am looking for a job there. I think I will succeed, in my profession are a lot of good jobs there in internationally oriented companies.

I know a lot about the country, the history, culture, componists, musicians, artists, and so on.

During that years I had some girlfriends in my own country, but it did not work, because I want to be in that other country and not here. I want a girlfriend from that other country. It's not about getting as much as girls in bed as possible. I am 35+ and want to meet someone for a long-term relationship.

So I tried Tinder and a (national) datingsite. At first it seemed to be a huge success! I had 40 matches on tinder in just 2 days. Never had this in my own country. I wrote a profiletext in local language of that country. I began to exchange messages with some nice girls.

6 times, I had the same problem: After exchanging some messages, and even talking about meeting, it became silent. No answers anymore.

Why? Obviously I make a mistake.

With Google, I found this article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-get-foreign-girls
I made every mistake mentioned in that article. But it's against my intuition.

I chose to write my profiletext and messages in the language of that country, because of these reasons:
1. I expected women will like and respect that I am learning their (very hard) language.
2. In the capital cities of that country, are many sextourists from Western-Europe. I don't want to be seen as one of these stupid tourists, but as a (future) local.

According to the article, it's not an adventage to learn the language. I am so surprised, but I must admit this must be true. I know some lucky men from my own country that have a girlfriend/wife from that country, and all of them have one thing in common: When they met their woman, they did not know the language (and even nothign about that country). Even now, most of them speak the language worse than I.

I also wrote a lot about culture. I show that I know a lot about the country. According to the article, that's also not good.
I did that because:
1. Why could a woman want to have a boyfriend what lives 2000 kilometers far away? I want to show that I will be a lot in that country (I am, every two months), and have serious intentions to move there.
2. Many women from Eastern Europe move to the west. They don't need a boyfriend to do that because the country is in the EU. But when a woman from that country gets acquainted with someone in the west, they move to the west. But I want to meet a woman that does not want to leave her country.
3. Doesn't a woman appreciate that a man loves here country? The country in this case is very patriotic.

According to the article, that's wrong. Because if you are a copy of a local, it's more obvious she will date a real local.

So my conclusion: Try again from scratch. With a profiletext in English, without talking too much about that country and culture.

But how can I solve these questions/problems?

1. I want to meet a woman that loves her country and want to stay there. That are not the kind of women I suppose that date foreigners. So I have to act like a local, like I did. But it didn't work. What can I do?
2. How can I be different from that stupid Western-European (sex)tourists, that are also on Tinder? The big adventage for me was writing in their language, but it did not seem to work.
3. One of my passions is that country and culture. It's hard to not to speak about that. It's one of the reasons I want to meet a girl here. Girls from my own country don't understand these traditions, music and literature. I also have to explain why I am so often in that country, without telling things that are not true.

Local girls loving their country want locals (but not a foreigner acting like a local, according to the article). Some girls want to meet foreigners, but most of them want to leave their country. What can I do? What would be a good strategy in this situation?
 
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Inbocca

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Re: Problems meeting women in a foreign country, because of learning their langu

Switching languages is a subtle form of investment. You'll notice some of the more experienced members on the board who travel or live abroad don't have this issue because they lead the interaction almost entirely in their native language (or English if they're fluent as an L2). That and, like the article says, nonverbals and fundamentals are far more important than language.

But I understand your conundrum. It's tough loving a culture and language that even the locals don't care about. That's the thing about locals, though: to them, it's just normal. Imagine if you met a girl in your country who was from somewhere else and all she would talk about was how great your country is. Especially if she'd been there a while or been immersed in the culture as long as she said she had. It would get a little annoying and perhaps odd, right? That's the thing about culture: the more immersed and comfortable you become, the less of a big deal it is. Normally culture is just one of those subconscious aspects of ourselves we don't really think about.

I want to meet a woman that loves her country and want to stay there. That are not the kind of women I suppose that date foreigners. So I have to act like a local, like I did. But it didn't work. What can I do?

Whether or not you act like one, you are a foreigner and women will associate you with the image of a foreigner in their head. How much you vary from that is your choice, and it might be better in some situations to be closer to what they expect. The allure that gives you is usually better anyway.

How can I be different from that stupid Western-European (sex)tourists, that are also on Tinder? The big adventage for me was writing in their language, but it did not seem to work.

If you are different, you'll be different. When I went to Italy, all the people I met told me I'm much different than they expected from an American. I didn't even have to try, because compared to the other American tourists I was different. Depending on the stereotype, that can be sort of a good or bad thing when it comes to getting women. The polite, reserved tourists who follow all the cultural rules and never commit faux pas don't really get laid compared to the confident, noisy blowhard who does what he wants.

I'd say show your culture. It's probably different for them, and they like that. But don't be a caricature. If your culture's tourists are typically irreverent, arrogant, ignorant, etc. and you're not really any of those things, don't try too hard to be something that comes off as forced - especially if they don't like that anyway.

One of my passions is that country and culture. It's hard to not to speak about that.

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