Pro's and Con's of drinking alcohol during night game

[Mr. oblivious]

Pro's

1. It makes you more social and can help generate social momentum

2. Approach anxiety is significantly reduced

3. It's easier to remain unfazed ( this is not for all some people it may have the opposite effect)

4. If you have read lots of field reports and material you will find yourself innately handling situations in similar matters and often smoothly

5. Pre drinking games are good for getting into a social mood

Cons

1. You are likely to miss many escalation windows if your too intoxicated ( especially if your not experienced)

2.if not in the right mind set drinking alcohol will just buffer the negative mind sets

3. Even if you do hit the escalation windows you may have performance issues

4. Hangovers

5. I find it harder to communicate with people who are not right next to me ( maybe from music or alcohol)

This is just a short list I made add your pro's and con's , experiences and opinions on alcohol

 

[fsc]

Cons

6. $$$

7. You may start getting dependent on alcohol for the pros. You can generate social momentum, reduce approach anxiety, remain unfazed, and pull off smooth maneuvers without alcohol, and developing these skills without alcohol will make them a more innate part of you. I have friends who are decent at party/bar game with a few shots inside them, but they cannot day game or approach sober at all.

 

[Mr.Rob]

1. It makes you more social and can help generate social momentum
2. Approach anxiety is significantly reduced
3. It's easier to remain unfazed ( this is not for all some people it may have the opposite effect)
4. If you have read lots of field reports and material you will find yourself innately handling situations in similar matters and often smoothly

I can say I've mastered going out without drinking and typically have more fun than the average drinker that goes out.

You definitely have a point here, and going out sober is probably not for everyone, but you can level up MUCH faster, and you learn to draw good state from within as opposed to relying on alcohol.

It's fucking intimidating as shit, especially if you're rolling solo.

1. If you make a process of getting into an action taking mode as soon as you get in the club you can generate social momentum rather quickly... all it takes usually is a few decent interactions.

2. Learn how to go out sober and destroy your bullshit approach anxiety and you'll never have to deal with that shit at the degree most people have it.

3. Master going out sober and how to view everything women say as mere "blabber coming from a 12 year olds mouth" and you won't ever get fased again. I would go out sober to learn this skill in general. You'll encounter so much bullshit if you push it hard and you will have a comeback and poker face for everything.

4. I find I get in those benefits when I get in state. Especially modeling infield video clips that I can gain inspiration from. When I get truly in state shit is effortless and just emanate positive emotion.

I'd say the cons to not drinking are that it is a LOT harder to get social momentum and get out of your head but if you can learn how to do it anyway (for me it's through yelling, dance, self amusement) you'll be a different breed and have a high degree of control over your emotional state.

Interesting post here, hope other have something to add from their experience.

-Rob

 

[Draton]

One of the largest pros of drinking alcohol is that it gets you doing things you normally wouldn't try when you were sober. While this is both a good and a bad thing, you really break out of your comfort zone when you try all these risky maneuvers, and it's not even intentional on your part. The good thing is that when you sober up the next night, you can look back and see that some of the things you tried actually worked when you never thought they would. I've cultivated a fair number of useful tactics this way.

Of course, because they were things you normally wouldn't do when sober it becomes difficult to actually pull them off when sober. However, now you have a reference point of success so you can mesh this in with your regular personality. Obviously this is most useful for beginners, once you start getting intermediate I think drinking alcohol hurts you more than it helps.

 

[Mr. oblivious]

Lovely comments, very interesting stuff

I think the alcohol dependence is a huge one as someone who only recently has been pushing for practical experience I might consider cutting alcohol consumption or at least reducing it. Any tips for don't so in a social group which engages is lots of night game and in social events which drinking is regarded highly.

 

[ray_zorse]

Going out sober is 200% better for me, but I don't always put it into practice, and when I drink and game I always, always regret it... this is partly cos when I'm nightgaming I usually go out for 8+ hours straight and while alcohol brings some temporary benefits at the start of the night I find myself paying the price later on. I'm considering cutting alcohol out of my life altogether, this could make things easier in a perverse kind of way as no temptation to make judgement calls about whether I'm in pure social circle and thus okay to drink or whatever. OTOH Tucker Max doesn't worry about such concerns...
-Ray

Edit: As to your question:

Well I just flat out told my buddies I wasn't drinking cos I was planning on introducing myself to women and chatting them up, this was a pretty big step because (a) one of my buddies in particular often AMOGs me and pressures me to drink faster than I want to, always end up shitfaced and not having an optimal time, so I felt it important to establish some boundaries now I'm a high value man, (b) coming out of the closet so to speak, for the first 3 or 4 months since starting to follow Chase's ebook I kept it pretty close to my chest, now IDGAF who knows as long as they don't blab blab to my target...

Anyway these friends were pretty dismissive and kinda laughed at me and didn't really do anything to add social proof, e.g. wouldn't comply with my requests to go onto dancefloor as a group, made no effort to meet any other groups or socialize, so I don't hang with them anymore... AMOG buddy called me a while ago but I didn't return his call, never called back so I guess he just wanted his computer fixed and sorted it out himself... I'm glad not to be at someone's beck and call.

 

[Mr. oblivious]

@ray that was very bold, I don't think i could do the same at this stage I may just need to pace my self or isolate myself during the early stages of drinking for a night out for example go watch TV or say I'm taking a phone call