Quick Post: You are being lied. Here's the rough numbers of success in anything

[trashKENNUT]

Hi Guys,

Most men approach seduction thinking that every girl is something special. IF you haven't read Chase's article on asymmetric returns, i suggest you do but here's the rough numbers and ideas of success.

Floyd Mayweather: "Every fighter is different. You must be able to adapt to every situation".
Picasso from Chase's article: 500 out of 50,000

and my own rough research on guys i meet, with blogs, experiences and my own: 1 out of 25 to 100+


I am just letting everyone know including myself that we have been approaching seduction wrong. One might say that social circle is different but nope. You have to invest in the social circle and not all social circles are favourable. Same thing as pull ups. You practice many times but you only get one pull up and so forth.

Happy fucking, people Haha! p.s: Derive from 'Happy dating, people'.

Zac

 

[Troy]

Re: Quick Post: You are being lied. Here's the rough numbers of success in anyth

Zac,

Thanks for making this post. It makes a lot of sense. I've tried explaining it before and it came to nothing. Whether it be social circle or cold approach, we still have to abide by the laws of asymmetrical returns. When I see guys talking about how cold approach is a waste and social circle is the ONLY WAY I shake my head. Cold approach teaches the fundamentals of talking to a girl ( or guy) anywhere.

And for social circle, I've heard more guys here ( all over the internet) say social circle and all the " silly " talk they engage in is a time waste . Social circle imo is where a great seducer will learn how to transfer his cold approach to and build long lasting relationships.

I say " shut the fuck up " to anyone who disregards any of those two MAIN parts to socializing and seduction .

You just gotta play the game. You cold approach 20 girls and sleep with 2. You manage a social circle that has new girls regularly and you speak to 20 girls in that circle and still sleep with 2. See the point?

If one part of game doesn't work ( cold approach or social circle) I say change your mindset and give both a chance at the same time.

Troy

 

[Ree]

Re: Quick Post: You are being lied. Here's the rough numbers of success in anyth

Hi Guys,

Most men approach seduction thinking that every girl is something special. IF you haven't read Chase's article on asymmetric returns, i suggest you do but here's the rough numbers and ideas of success.

Floyd Mayweather: "Every fighter is different. You must be able to adapt to every situation".
Picasso from Chase's article: 500 out of 50,000

and my own rough research on guys i meet, with blogs, experiences and my own: 1 out of 25 to 100+


I am just letting everyone know including myself that we have been approaching seduction wrong. One might say that social circle is different but nope. You have to invest in the social circle and not all social circles are favourable. Same thing as pull ups. You practice many times but you only get one pull up and so forth.

Happy fucking, people Haha! p.s: Derive from 'Happy dating, people'.

Zac

Yeah...man..but i hope it gets easier...ive just about aproached every hottie inthis fucking dump

 

[trashKENNUT]

Re: Quick Post: You are being lied. Here's the rough numbers of success in anyth

Troy, Ree,

And for social circle, I've heard more guys here ( all over the internet) say social circle and all the " silly " talk they engage in is a time waste . Social circle imo is where a great seducer will learn how to transfer his cold approach to and build long lasting relationships.

I say " shut the fuck up " to anyone who disregards any of those two MAIN parts to socializing and seduction .

You just gotta play the game. You cold approach 20 girls and sleep with 2. You manage a social circle that has new girls regularly and you speak to 20 girls in that circle and still sleep with 2. See the point?

If one part of game doesn't work ( cold approach or social circle) I say change your mindset and give both a chance at the same time.

Exactly. We actually have already been working. If you are in sales, you not going to sell at every approach. When you approach social circles, not all social circles are open and you don't always have the privilege of going to school. What most people do not see is that naturals talk to everyone.

Naturals (i do this unconsciously too) is good at creating the illusion that they have everyone on his side.

If you read Lamborghini's history, they were not that all successful all the time. In fact, they are own by Audi, today. I guess the key here is realizing how hard the world is but smart enough to create an illusion that everyone thinks you are popular so as to make your job easier in getting friends, allies and women.

That's the key.

Yeah...man..but i hope it gets easier...ive just about aproached every hottie inthis fucking dump

You not gonna win thinking like that, although in reality, you are doing exactly that. That will exhaust you and demoralize you. You need a delusion, something that makes you think you're the best, or something vague like i just want to go out and have fun or i want to go out and be free.

The key here is realizing that we need to change motivations or delusions above, every day. That's how humans have been doing. Nice guys tell themselves stories on the 'perfect partner'. Same thing, you tell yourself a story because life is hard.

Zac

 

[trashKENNUT]

Re: Quick Post: You are being lied. Here's the rough numbers of success in anyth

BUMP

Don't give me shit people. I'm just telling the average when i talk to people and stats. You can believe it or don't. FREE WILL!!!!

Zac