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slinky71

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Hi, I'm really mad about how hard it is to find a mentor in the country I live. I envy you people, Europeans and Americans, to say. For MONTHS I'm trying to find a good mentor and it's been MONTHS after that stage, I'm in a shape that I'd even accept an average/OK mentor. Even a crappy one if he gets me approaching and daygaming. Now just take a breath, and be grateful that you don't live in a 3rd world shithole. Be grateful that if you want to take a bootcamp or training, all you have to do is to pay the price and get what you want. And in where I live, what do I deal with? Do you know? I search and search and search people who are good in pickup, I find a few decent ones, I read the guys, and write to them eventually, if it seems like they 'get it'. I write, sometimes I even buy their products if it's affordable, and do you know what happens? THEY DONT EVEN FUCKING ANSWER. Like, %70 of the times. I'm LITERALLY offering them my money in exchange of a couple hours of their time, and hell, bootcamps ain't cheap. Some of them try to make me take their more expensive programs. I'm BARELY managing my schedule and university to go to another city and take a bootcamp, to go through all kinds of shit, but they offer me to buy their other program which would take part in another country. UN-FUCKING-BELIEVEABLE. And others are all talk! They write their books, they offer you their 'secret game' which is generalised copy-paste content from pickup forums, and when you mail them about having a bootcamp, they're lost! No answers. Fucking lost! All talk I say, all talk! There are SEMI-DECENT forums, they are paid!

I can't approach. I just can't. I did just a few cold approaches in my life, and they went okay I guess. But I can't pull it off now. I go places to approach, wander like hours, and return to home in shame and frustration. I shouldn't be that man, I don't want to be that man. I hate people who cling to their excuses and just 'survive', I want to be the man who goes for what he wants and actually gets it. If I see a chick is into me, I somehow screw it up immediately. Like, in minutes they lose interest. Often times I'm PHENOMENALLY bad. I got my fundamentals allright. They can be better, I still work on it, but they're fine. I just can't express myself. I have like negative social momentum, I have a hard time talking. I just don't know how to pick up chicks. But I want to learn, I put serious effort in it. Everyday I work on something, consistently. Mastering my walk, my posture, my eye contact, my tonality... I just want someone to teach me how to approach and close. Just the basics, you know. Maybe you'd say it's a limiting belief but I just know myself, I'm a kind of guy who learns by instruction and by people who know how to teach. That's my type. When somebody who wants to teach instructs me, I get good and EVEN BETTER from my instructors. How big of a blessing is that! But no instructors around! I'm sick of reading, watching videos and not seeing the change I want to see. The supposedly good-with-girls types of dudes are either don't know shit and they think it's about their appearance and money, or they just shrug it off like 'I don't know man it just happens'. I've been waiting from this summer to have a kind of bootcamp or training. Guys in my country postpone or cancel their events for reasons I don't even know, they never tell. When they don't postpone they never answer my mails. But I've been waiting patiently. I even tried to go to a training in Germany but it didn't work for some reasons. Think about that borderline poor university student who still lives with his parents, actually so invested that he drops all his business in where he lives, pauses everything, finds enough money to pay for a program and fly to another country and he can't make it happen anyway. When I peeked upon the secret of this 'game', I knew, I had to learn it. To be happy. To not be a pussy-tease and to be an actual man. That was the thing I was missing. To actually end up with girls I like, I understood that I need to bed lots of women to learn how. I just saw it. And thank you Chase, if you read it. The way you explain things just made everything clear in my mind and I find you awfully relatable. You gave me the direction, thank you. And from the moment I saw it, I knew that there was only 2 paths in front of me. Either I learn this shit to its fullest and pull my life around. Or I accept all of these and put it behind me, giving up on this world, and go live a solitary life of a monk in a secluded place, spending my days with meditating, praying, and barely filling my worldly needs like eating and drinking. I don't know. I don't want to give up and run but I feel tired and done. I'm just so sick of it and I felt like I needed to take it off my system and show you that how lucky you are. When there is a PUA event in your city, you can easily go. When there is a workshop, you can go and attend for free. Seminars, hotseats, conferences, trainings, you have it all. Use it. Don't just sulk around and complain when you have the opportunies. You have them, I don't. I'm willing to put my all into this, all I need is a hand and a little push, that's all. Yet there is no one. The moment I write these things, I still search for some guys in my country. I don't give up, never. So shouldn't you. And thus ends my random mad rant.
 

Drck

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I can't help much with finding a mentor, but here are some suggestions:


"Everyday I work on something, consistently"
>>>> Excellent, keep doing that

"Mastering my walk, my posture, my eye contact, my tonality..."
>>>> At the same time, this could be a problem. Those are important things, don't make me wrong, but it appears that those should be in your lesser priority. It appears they are consuming all of your effort. Make a list of priorities.

If you want to drive a car, you don't sit behind the wheel for hours and imagining how you are drving either. No, you do it for couple minutes, maybe couple of times. Then you actually drive. Nobody expect you to be a great driver right away, but as long as you are driving you are making good progress in driving. You can become great driver later on...

Priority #1 --> is to approach. Screw everything else, screw how you look and walk, just approach. Forget everything about seduction, empty your mind, smile, and just approach. Stop imagining driving, just drive. Slowly, but forward.
Priority #2 --> is to close. Get number, or whatever the 'close' means to you. Screw everything else, just ask for the fucking number. If it doesn't sound right, well, you'll make it sound right the next time. Hit the gas and turn to the right. Then turn to the left.
Priority #3 --> Only after you can do the above focus on the rest. Master the approach first, then master the walks and looks later. It looks like you are so consumed with all the 'improvements' that you don't have any any energy left to do the actual approach. Ok, you drove couple of times, now you feel more comfortable - now you can speed up, now you can move forward and drive fast on highway...

You can approach and talk to the girl WITHOUT any knowledge, without any seduction techniques, without any elite eye contact, without tonality... Who cares? Just approach. The approaching itself is a bold move, it is a great ACTION. Girls appreciate guys who approach them much more than guys who have great walks and sexy looks - but never approach... Girls appreciate guy who just got his driver license and takes them for a ride much more than guy who wins every race - but never takes them for ride...

"I just can't express myself. I have like negative social momentum, I have a hard time talking. I just don't know how to pick up chicks"
>>>> This is good, negativity is good. With this negativity you are able exactly pinpoint where the problem is. With writing the negativity down you know exactly what the problem is. By turning the negativity around you will find solution.

Use affirmations, something like:
*** "I just can't express myself" >> change it to >> "I wasn't able to express myself but now I am improving. I am improving every single day, day after day"

*** "I have like negative social momentum" >> change it to >> "I used to have negative social momentum. Now I am improving, now I am changing it to positive momentum. My social momentum is becoming more and more positive. I am working on it every single day and I am progressing"

*** "I have a hard time talking" >> change it to >> "It is ok not to talk much. Great Alphas don't talk much anyway, I am not any fucking entertaining radio to entertain girls by talking. I let girl(s) talk instead, girls just love to talk anyway. I let them entertain me by talking. I tell them minimum about myself while I let them tell me everything about them. Girls are not expecting guys too much talking anyway. Girls are looking for ACTIONS in the guy, so in stead of talking I am focusing on actions. Every single Alpha focuses more on actions in stead of on talking"

*** "I just don't know how to pick up chicks" >> change it to >> "Yes, that is a problem with most guys. That is exactly why I am working on it every day, that is why I am focusing on approaching and closing at this time. The rest will come with time. I may find a good mentor, and I could go to the boot camp later on, but at this time I am not wasting any time by waiting. I am fucking approaching right now and I will be fucking closing the same day, regardless of the fucking mentor, regardless of the best fucking boot camps".

"Think about that borderline poor university student who still lives with his parents, actually so invested that he drops all his business in where he lives, pauses everything, finds enough money to pay for a program and fly to another country and he can't make it happen anyway"
>>>> How pity, so many difficulties, so many obstacles. I feel sorry for you.

Eh, fuck no, I don't. Let your mama feel sorry for you. We all have some problems and obstacles in our way. Nobody has it easy. We can either feel pity and sorry for ourselves, all of us can be some victim - or we can do something something about it. I say fuck pity, I say fuck feeling sorry, and I say fuck victim mentality.

"To not be a pussy-tease and to be an actual man"
>>>> Exactly. Now you are talking! Now you are talking about being a man! So stop fucking talking about it, and start being a man! :)
 

slinky71

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Drck said:
I can't help much with finding a mentor, but here are some suggestions:


"Everyday I work on something, consistently"
>>>> Excellent, keep doing that

"Mastering my walk, my posture, my eye contact, my tonality..."
>>>> At the same time, this could be a problem. Those are important things, don't make me wrong, but it appears that those should be in your lesser priority. It appears they are consuming all of your effort. Make a list of priorities.

If you want to drive a car, you don't sit behind the wheel for hours and imagining how you are drving either. No, you do it for couple minutes, maybe couple of times. Then you actually drive. Nobody expect you to be a great driver right away, but as long as you are driving you are making good progress in driving. You can become great driver later on...

Priority #1 --> is to approach. Screw everything else, screw how you look and walk, just approach. Forget everything about seduction, empty your mind, smile, and just approach. Stop imagining driving, just drive. Slowly, but forward.
Priority #2 --> is to close. Get number, or whatever the 'close' means to you. Screw everything else, just ask for the fucking number. If it doesn't sound right, well, you'll make it sound right the next time. Hit the gas and turn to the right. Then turn to the left.
Priority #3 --> Only after you can do the above focus on the rest. Master the approach first, then master the walks and looks later. It looks like you are so consumed with all the 'improvements' that you don't have any any energy left to do the actual approach. Ok, you drove couple of times, now you feel more comfortable - now you can speed up, now you can move forward and drive fast on highway...

You can approach and talk to the girl WITHOUT any knowledge, without any seduction techniques, without any elite eye contact, without tonality... Who cares? Just approach. The approaching itself is a bold move, it is a great ACTION. Girls appreciate guys who approach them much more than guys who have great walks and sexy looks - but never approach... Girls appreciate guy who just got his driver license and takes them for a ride much more than guy who wins every race - but never takes them for ride...

"I just can't express myself. I have like negative social momentum, I have a hard time talking. I just don't know how to pick up chicks"
>>>> This is good, negativity is good. With this negativity you are able exactly pinpoint where the problem is. With writing the negativity down you know exactly what the problem is. By turning the negativity around you will find solution.

Use affirmations, something like:
*** "I just can't express myself" >> change it to >> "I wasn't able to express myself but now I am improving. I am improving every single day, day after day"

*** "I have like negative social momentum" >> change it to >> "I used to have negative social momentum. Now I am improving, now I am changing it to positive momentum. My social momentum is becoming more and more positive. I am working on it every single day and I am progressing"

*** "I have a hard time talking" >> change it to >> "It is ok not to talk much. Great Alphas don't talk much anyway, I am not any fucking entertaining radio to entertain girls by talking. I let girl(s) talk instead, girls just love to talk anyway. I let them entertain me by talking. I tell them minimum about myself while I let them tell me everything about them. Girls are not expecting guys too much talking anyway. Girls are looking for ACTIONS in the guy, so in stead of talking I am focusing on actions. Every single Alpha focuses more on actions in stead of on talking"

*** "I just don't know how to pick up chicks" >> change it to >> "Yes, that is a problem with most guys. That is exactly why I am working on it every day, that is why I am focusing on approaching and closing at this time. The rest will come with time. I may find a good mentor, and I could go to the boot camp later on, but at this time I am not wasting any time by waiting. I am fucking approaching right now and I will be fucking closing the same day, regardless of the fucking mentor, regardless of the best fucking boot camps".

"Think about that borderline poor university student who still lives with his parents, actually so invested that he drops all his business in where he lives, pauses everything, finds enough money to pay for a program and fly to another country and he can't make it happen anyway"
>>>> How pity, so many difficulties, so many obstacles. I feel sorry for you.

Eh, fuck no, I don't. Let your mama feel sorry for you. We all have some problems and obstacles in our way. Nobody has it easy. We can either feel pity and sorry for ourselves, all of us can be some victim - or we can do something something about it. I say fuck pity, I say fuck feeling sorry, and I say fuck victim mentality.

"To not be a pussy-tease and to be an actual man"
>>>> Exactly. Now you are talking! Now you are talking about being a man! So stop fucking talking about it, and start being a man! :)


>>'You just need to drive' stuff. Yeah I know. But I keep hitting the car, to say. It's just the frustration of 6 months. No major improvements. NOT EVEN A LAY and it makes me feel so bad about myself. And actually I was not in my country 6 months before, so I was in a more relaxed environment and I used to open girls sometimes! That was before I found pickup of course. So the opening concept was a bit weird to me but when I saw IOIs I went for it. Now it's just too hard I don't know. Not that it should justify the situation but I'm not in that happy and carefree, social headspace right now. I'm actually feeling lots of pain, frustration, sadness, remorse, and etc.

>>Positivity and affirmations
I'm a really positive person actually. It may seem like the opposite but I am. But it's just the feeling of being so sore. I have a hard time to keep the positivity going, I usually relapse and get back later on, when I catch myself depressed I be aware of it and it's gone. But no real effects really.

>>Fundamentals
Yeah that's right I give it lots of time. Because it needs it? How can I expect to be charming and pulling girls, balling 3 lays a day when I'm speaking kinda choked and low-volume, because I still can't control my social anxiety in real life interactions. How can I do these things when I'm just stuttering when I tell a story, choking when I talk too much? Yeah most of the alpha males don't speak too much as you said, I cannot imagine Wolverine spewing random bullshit like all the time, but not speaking enough drags you into a passive mindset. At least for me it is the case. And still can't control my voice in public. 'But I will' :)

>>It's not about being a victim. Not about that. I have faith that everyting happens has a reason and that will lead me to better things, yet it's difficult to live through all of this. It's about being all alone in this world, I just ask help from people who made it. And they're so self-involved and care-free. Alright bro I get it, no one owes me anything, I learnt that lesson many times repeatedly. But they were like me once, and they forgot about it. They were in my shoes and now they just don't care about guys who are like their former selves. It sucks! I SWEAR if I actually end up being real good so I'll be a dating coach or something, I WILL help people who are in same place as I am right now. And now I think it's time for me to accept that I'm alone and I need to make something happen for myself. Becuase as it's said in the book Six Pillars of Self-Esteem, 'No one is coming'. Great book by the way. No one is coming to save us. We need to take action. I take action EVERY day, but maybe I'm not taking the actions I should be taking.
 

ray_zorse

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Slinky totally feel u, I used to get a lot of social anxiety too. Check out the "day game 101" series that's just starting on the main site, author has a great point which is it's about conditioning yourself... practice just saying "hi" to a lot of girls until you get accustomed to it... then practice saying "hi, how are you"... and keep going like that, he suggests to aim for a 30 second interaction until you can comfortably pull it off, then go to 60 seconds etc... you can do it brother, anxiety = unfamiliarity with a situation and not knowing what to do... practice = getting familiar with a situation and fucking up enough that you do know what to do. Go get em.
-Ray
 

Drck

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I know what you are saying man. Life sometimes just sucks, there is no need to BS about it... you do your best, you are persistant, you keep improving and pushing forward, and nothing is working anyway... It is depressing

The 'positivity' also works only up to some point, it is simply impossible to be positive about life all the time. We all have ups and downs, that is just how this World works.

Anyway, you got lots of great "tools" here on GC, I think that there is much more material than an average guy needs to get good girl. Just by reading GC you got huge advantage over 90+ percent of all the guys out there... Sometimes you learn and learn, and nothing is happening. Then you meet the "right" girl and all of the sudden you'll see that everything is so easy, you won't even want to believe that you know so much stuff, and most of it you don't even need in order to have a great relationship. All it takes is that one girl to become really interested in you - and once she is she will make everything very very easy...
 
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slinky71

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Thanks for the advice, people. Life has ups and downs and sometimes it's just impossible to be happy all the time. So we need to be honest about what's happening and only by this we can overcome negativity. As for Daygame 101, just saying 'Hi' to people puts even more pressure on me to be honest. Like, what's the point hahah. I think like there's a threshold i need to overcome, like shocking experiences, and then that way i can be better. Like just jumping into the cold water before tip-toeing. Sometimes it seems like the game is so meaningless. I know it's just a thought but still. After all the wordplay; good news. I found a mentor i guess! I kept on searching hard and it just came from something i'd never expect. Contacted the guy and he said he still does bootcamps. And there, it's my time to level up :) Bottomline: Dont lose faith. Never. I hope I can do the bootcamp without any setbacks and come back and tell you. Good luck on your journeys too bros!
 

ray_zorse

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Good luck with the bootcamp!

As to what u said about just saying hi... agree in a way, I didn't do the newbie assignment or the just saying hi, instead basically jumped in and started trying to pick up chicks, and crashing and burning horribly most of the time, but I spent months trying to imagine myself doing daygame and feeling horribly anxious, it was making me feel so miserable that eventually I forced myself to do an approach, feeling a huge burst of AA and probably having the worst body language in the world, could only go up from there... but point is just do it. I still felt totally anxious so I had to begin setting targets, 10 approaches in the shopping centre before I could go home, etc. Now, it's no biggie (I never set targets but usually do 30+ approaches in a short time, quickly screening for interest & willingness to insta-date & moving on if they're not keen).

You can do the same! I highly recommend you get over this before your bootcamp cos you will get a lot more out of it if you do.

-Ray
 
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