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Hey fellas,
I've finally overcome my approach anxiety struggle and I'm starting to open girls. I've been reading this material for many months, so I have a solid idea of the general seduction process, even though I still have a ton to learn, of course.
I have some final things I want to understand to avoid losing a lay at the last minute or opening up possible risks. Keep in mind, I'm a virgin, so these things are more daunting and confusing for me than you guys.
1. Sex vs. LMR
Hence the thread title, this is by far my biggest concern. Obviously, rape is a terrible crime and I want to avoid harming a woman in any way. But I don't quite understand the subtle differences between LMR and rape. It seems like a grey area.
I understand that you pay attention to a woman's actions. So if you make an advance and she says, “No, we shouldn't do this,” but continues to ramp up the passion with you, she's into it and just wants to maintain plausible deniability. And if she firmly says, “No,” and pushes you back, then you stop.
But what do you do if she does push you back? Do you call the whole thing off there? It seems like the situation would just be awkward and I'd feel pressure to end it to prevent her from getting more uncomfortable. Or do you wait and try again? What if she neither reciprocates nor says no? I understand the importance of persistence, but I don't want persistence to turn into forcing her to do something. Advice on handling confusing instances of LMR like this would be very helpful.
(Sidenote: In addition to any suggestions, is there an article on handling LMR? I honestly can't remember or find one.)
2. If I see STIs on her
What do I do if I see signs of STIs when I'm about to go down on her? And by this, I mean STIs that can still transfer while using a condom and carrageenan, like herpes or lice. I know carrageenan protects from herpes to a good degree, and lice is easily treated, but that's not the point. Having sex with her after seeing these things does not seem very smart to me.
Abundance mentality teaches that there is always another woman around the corner, so it'd be much safer to move on and save yourself from the risks of a single night of passion. But it's not like I can suddenly say, “Oh, I see lice, never mind, see you later.” Again, I'm acutely aware of rape risks and I don't want her to be all like, “Fuck this guy, I opened up to him and invested in him and was ready to have sex then he said no and judged me and sent me back home without even talking to me about it.”A little extreme, but I've read about women making up rape stories if they have sex regret, so I don't want them to have near-sex regret either...
So what do I do in this case? Perhaps I could just finger her? How would I get her to shift gears from sex into fingering? Maybe I could say my condom broke? I'm really confused about handling this one.
3. If she's under 18
I'm a college student and I'm rather young-looking, so I'll try to target the 18-20 age group. However, I'm very bad at telling people's ages, so I might approach some 17-year-olds by accident. And I certainly don't want to have sex with a minor. I think I know how to solve this issue, but I'm looking for your guys' opinions. Here's my current plan:
Whenever I cold open, I'll transition the discussion into college and ask what she's studying and what year she is. If she says sophomore or above, I'm in the clear, but if she says she's a freshman or a high school senior, I'll raise my eyebrows and say, “Wow, you carry yourself very maturely, I thought you were a 20-year-old/college junior” or something like that and ask for her age. If she says she's 17 or below, I'll gradually wind down the conversation and leave by saying, “It was nice talking to you, call me when you're 18” with a sexy smile. Of course, I won't actually pick up her number in that case.
Does this sound good? Any alternative strategies?
4. Any mistakes beginners make
This one is broad, but my question is simple. Do you have any safety advice you could give me as a beginner? Ideas on how to minimize the risks? (As you can tell, I'm very preoccupied with being safe hahaha, even though I understand all the risks that come with all of this.)
Thank you for all the help. And wish me luck on my approaches; I'm absolutely stoked to finally put all my knowledge into action!
I've finally overcome my approach anxiety struggle and I'm starting to open girls. I've been reading this material for many months, so I have a solid idea of the general seduction process, even though I still have a ton to learn, of course.
I have some final things I want to understand to avoid losing a lay at the last minute or opening up possible risks. Keep in mind, I'm a virgin, so these things are more daunting and confusing for me than you guys.
1. Sex vs. LMR
Hence the thread title, this is by far my biggest concern. Obviously, rape is a terrible crime and I want to avoid harming a woman in any way. But I don't quite understand the subtle differences between LMR and rape. It seems like a grey area.
I understand that you pay attention to a woman's actions. So if you make an advance and she says, “No, we shouldn't do this,” but continues to ramp up the passion with you, she's into it and just wants to maintain plausible deniability. And if she firmly says, “No,” and pushes you back, then you stop.
But what do you do if she does push you back? Do you call the whole thing off there? It seems like the situation would just be awkward and I'd feel pressure to end it to prevent her from getting more uncomfortable. Or do you wait and try again? What if she neither reciprocates nor says no? I understand the importance of persistence, but I don't want persistence to turn into forcing her to do something. Advice on handling confusing instances of LMR like this would be very helpful.
(Sidenote: In addition to any suggestions, is there an article on handling LMR? I honestly can't remember or find one.)
2. If I see STIs on her
What do I do if I see signs of STIs when I'm about to go down on her? And by this, I mean STIs that can still transfer while using a condom and carrageenan, like herpes or lice. I know carrageenan protects from herpes to a good degree, and lice is easily treated, but that's not the point. Having sex with her after seeing these things does not seem very smart to me.
Abundance mentality teaches that there is always another woman around the corner, so it'd be much safer to move on and save yourself from the risks of a single night of passion. But it's not like I can suddenly say, “Oh, I see lice, never mind, see you later.” Again, I'm acutely aware of rape risks and I don't want her to be all like, “Fuck this guy, I opened up to him and invested in him and was ready to have sex then he said no and judged me and sent me back home without even talking to me about it.”A little extreme, but I've read about women making up rape stories if they have sex regret, so I don't want them to have near-sex regret either...
So what do I do in this case? Perhaps I could just finger her? How would I get her to shift gears from sex into fingering? Maybe I could say my condom broke? I'm really confused about handling this one.
3. If she's under 18
I'm a college student and I'm rather young-looking, so I'll try to target the 18-20 age group. However, I'm very bad at telling people's ages, so I might approach some 17-year-olds by accident. And I certainly don't want to have sex with a minor. I think I know how to solve this issue, but I'm looking for your guys' opinions. Here's my current plan:
Whenever I cold open, I'll transition the discussion into college and ask what she's studying and what year she is. If she says sophomore or above, I'm in the clear, but if she says she's a freshman or a high school senior, I'll raise my eyebrows and say, “Wow, you carry yourself very maturely, I thought you were a 20-year-old/college junior” or something like that and ask for her age. If she says she's 17 or below, I'll gradually wind down the conversation and leave by saying, “It was nice talking to you, call me when you're 18” with a sexy smile. Of course, I won't actually pick up her number in that case.
Does this sound good? Any alternative strategies?
4. Any mistakes beginners make
This one is broad, but my question is simple. Do you have any safety advice you could give me as a beginner? Ideas on how to minimize the risks? (As you can tell, I'm very preoccupied with being safe hahaha, even though I understand all the risks that come with all of this.)
Thank you for all the help. And wish me luck on my approaches; I'm absolutely stoked to finally put all my knowledge into action!
