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Rejecting the girls that approach you and getting rejected by ones you like

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Hector Papi Castillo

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I bet if you hit on some lovely little white princess, the orbiting white faggots will rabidly fear the thought of your brown cock ripping her in half while he cowers in the corner with his shriveled up stub, crying about his estrogen levels
:) God you make me laugh, sometimes, Anatman!


Haha, I try my best ;)


Now...

For rocking the Desi ethnicity, it might be a bit harder (note: I'm not usually about that PC bullshit, but I actually think Desi is a cool word; btw, call me a spic, beaner, etc, all you guys want. I think that shit is hilarious haha).


Also, for Middle-Easterners, you'll have trouble...

But why?



Desi - the culture has had no considerable affect on Americans. The most some bitch knows about guys from India is that they bathe in the Ganges, their food smells, and something about "untouchables" haha. They're largely ignorant of India's ridiculously ancient history and cultural depths. But, remember, history doesn't mean much to 99% of women. All that matters is "does he get my pussy wet?" (some manosphere blog encapsulated young American female sexuality with this sentence; I really like it).


Middle-Easterners - they're all terrorists or Muslims. Seriously, most girls see guys as this. Every environment I've seen middle-easterners game in, I've seen them ostracized and fail miserably. In Sweden, the Caucasians and brown dudes basically lived in separate cities (they're racist AS FUCK; which is hilarious considering how progressive they are elsewhere, socially. I actually have a pretty touching story if anyone wants to PM me about it and learn more about Sweden, race tensions, etc). The main problem is that most of these guys, especially the foreign exchange guys at my college, come from an OLD-SCHOOL patriarchal culture where chasing women actually works, because without a man, they will die (my Pakistani best friend visits Pakistan every summer; this is not a lie. Very rarely can a woman survive on her own). Bring those un-calibrated courting habits to America, and you look like a creepy towel-head rapist to these Midwestern Visa-queens.


Thing is, with African Americans, you have hundreds of years of history, where most of it the black guys are off-limits freaks of nature who scare women with their primal ferocity and huge cocks. Cue the civil-rights movement and rap culture, and you have a recipe for "badass big Ape who is now allowed by law to interact with me; he will probably cum on my back and superman dat ho." Girls go nuts for that shit.

The solution?

Desi - lose the accent and just develop your game normally. The ignorance of Indus Valley culture gives you a nice blank slate to work with.

Middle-Easterners - rock the "first son of an OPEC founder" look/vibe. Dress to the fucking T and utilize "smooth" game. Be very chill and laid back to counter the aggressive/creepy tendencies of most Middle-Eastern guys that will inevitably shape her early perception of you. Of course, if your original style/game is solid, you can surpass any stereotype, but it's still there. No denying that.


This thread has gotten interesting...


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This is the second time I have seen bullshit posted on this site in the past week that I have had to call out. I have no idea what kind of women you are running around but being white myself most white girls who are attractive and from somewhat well off areas do not stereotypes desis or middle eastern people like that. Middle eastern men are stereotyped as exotic, different, and yes attractive. Desis are stereotyped the same way asians are, geeky and studious. You are probably hanging around trailer trash or the lower social classes but those girls will go for any guy with money to escape their desperate situation.

As a white male, I get the inside track to this kind of stuff because a lot of these girls tell me things they would never tell a minority. The thing with middle eastern men (and some south asian men) is that most of them do not look that different from your typical white guy, a lot can pass for southern european so it is just the culture holding them back. A middle eastern guy can do well in areas where other minorities will face troubles because he has white features unlike other minorities.

That and I don't think Oh Pry is fresh out of wherever he is from, he looks ethnically different but that seems to be his only setback. Why do people assume that an asian born in this country (usa) is the same as an asian immigrant born in another country?

I cannot believe you guys are giving that poor kid advice, no wonder he is so fucking lost.
 
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This is the second time I have seen bullshit posted on this site in the past week that I have had to call out. I have no idea what kind of women you are running around but being white myself most white girls who are attractive and from somewhat well off areas do not stereotypes desis or middle eastern people like that. Middle eastern men are stereotyped as exotic, different, and yes attractive. Desis are stereotyped the same way asians are, geeky and studious. You are probably hanging around trailer trash or the lower social classes but those girls will go for any guy with money to escape their desperate situation.

As a white male, I get the inside track to this kind of stuff because a lot of these girls tell me things they would never tell a minority. The thing with middle eastern men (and some south asian men) is that most of them do not look that different from your typical white guy, a lot can pass for southern european so it is just the culture holding them back. A middle eastern guy can do well in areas where other minorities will face troubles because he has white features unlike other minorities.

That and I don't think Oh Pry is fresh out of wherever he is from, he looks ethnically different but that seems to be his only setback. Why do people assume that an asian born in this country (usa) is the same as an asian immigrant born in another country?

I cannot believe you guys are giving that poor kid advice, no wonder he is so fucking lost.


I fully recognize a lot of what I say is pretty rough. Now, you'll also claim anecdotal evidence, as you did, and assert that that your experience tells otherwise. Well...anecdotal wars = stupidest shit ever, and won't get us anywhere. So allow me to clarify further on the observation, and not necessarily use specific cases until the end. Ultimately, Oh Pry will utilize whatever advice is most practical to him. Also, some of this will undoubtedly be of too general information for Oh Pry, but if anyone of these descents read these, I hope it helps.

I mentioned in my first post that it's not always the specific girl's stereotyping that matters - it's her friends and competition who can possibly ostracize her. A girl is going to be attracted to who-the-fuck-ever, despite stereotypes, because, remember, female attraction, while initiated by looks, goes for beyond that; she's looking for dominant, sexy, masculine qualities that her brain registers as "will give me strong babies and defend us." And a woman may develop this attraction for any ethnicity. Problem is, if another girl judges the exotic-guy and then attaches stereotypes onto him, he becomes "other." If she mates with him and it's found out, he's "othered." But this only happens if the guy mimics enough of the stereotype.

And as with the post on black guys, I said that the most successful best style is a hybrid. One that retains the sexual stereotypes of his primal ferocity, but also meshes well with white society. Exotic yet acceptable. Sometimes these guys are labeled "oreos" (these guys are usually too tame, though).

I'll continue that trend with these other ethnicities. Maintain your exoticism but also assimilate to some extent.

So, my question, ProActivity, is to what extent to these successful ethnic guys you see match their stereotypes? Or are they completely "white" despite their color? I mentioned before that I have a best friend Pakistani who does REALLY well with women. He's very good looking and exotic, but acts 100% middle class, white-privilege Frat guy. This is what I mean by maintaining exoticism but assimilating.


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Anatman, I do see what you were getting at but if you have read Oh Pry's threads, he has stated in the past that he is more westernized and not some guy right off the boat. What his fears seem to be is that despite how he acts, he will be judged based on his ethnic appearance alone. So to put it in a way you can actually understand, he seems to be more whitewashed but due to his ethnic features (I would guess brown skin dark hair and dark eyes) he feels that white women prejudge him and don't give him a chance despite how he acts.

Your advice is lightly touching on the whole thing. What seems to be his situation as he claims is that he is fully whitewashed but still has troubles with white american girls due to his ethnic appearance alone. Maybe these girls still assume he bathes in some dirty river but in that case the advice you give doesn't seem to work for him. My initial guess was he lacks game but he said he has done well with girls from other groups (minority or white european) yet he seems to struggle with the all american girl. At that point my guess is that he probably:

1. Goes after groups of american girls that are shallow (sorority girls, bimbos, etc.) and would reject most guys of any race
2. Lives in an area where there could be a lot of segregation as he has posted threads on open minded areas he can move to
3. Has deep rooted limiting beliefs in his head due to number 2 and other things but doesn't seem to know how to lose them

My likely guess is that due to some shit this guy went through growing up (bullying maybe) he has developed a victim's mentality. I had a friend who was desi that grew up in Oklahoma, he remembers telling me how in high school he approached a white girl and talked to her but was later threatened by a group of guys for it. That kind of thing probably has some impact on a person's inner game so I would say he needs to find a way to work through that. I have seen so many cases of foreign looking guys (browns, latinos, asians, arabs) with white american girls recently to think any different. Even my girlfriend's friend (a curvy HBB redhead) is engaged to a Syrian guy that is very dark. His issue is internal and he needs to find a way to get around it.

To answer your question, almost all of my foreign friends (asians and desis) that did well were fully assimilated and above average looking. The ones I knew who were immigrants were already married when they came here but as I said, ohpry doesn't seem to fall into the immigrant category.
 

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Oh Pry,

We've already given you all of the advice we can give you. All I can tell you to do is move to (or vacation at) an area where white women are generally more welcoming to Desi men. These places do exist (because I live in one), so you can ponder about whether or not moving will actually help you, or you can sit at your current location with victim mentality and never achieve anything.

Fuji Follower has suggested Seattle to you, and I have heard good things about Seattle as well. I will actually be in Washington State for one weekend in June, so if I happen to notice attractive blondes (both American and Canadian) with Desi/Asian/Middle-Eastern guys, I'll make sure to take mental note of it.

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