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Relationships Without Sex (It is Possible)

trashKENNUT

Cro-Magnon Man
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Hello People,

So i be writing this a short post. I won't promise a long one because i suck at it but i hope Chase Amante picks up steam on this topic because trust me, this is a fucking popular topic. and he probably write a long ass article i be dying to read.

You guys will love this.

I know a lot of relationships don't have sex. I know.
The way they talk,
it screams...
It tells me everything In fact,
i seen it the other way too. I seen ordinary people with 'chode' face, having sex often with their girlfriends than those who look tough guy. But for most men, from the outside, every guy out there is jealous that a man has a relationship.

That's why Ed Sheeran song is morally correct, feels right. Avril lavigne's Girlfriend feels right. They are the fucker and you are the hero. And if you lose, you just spam out God and islam and bible so you can fuck those girls and not them.

But we live in a world of imperfect information. (Thank you Chase). So what is true? Are women really sluts in a conservative country? Now Zac takes you down the rabbit hole.

If you are thinking that women are "sluts" at this point, i assure you. You need to point this out for yourself. If it is

1)women like sex and i hate it somewhat
2)i can't believe women lie a lot more than they should.

If it is the first, i recommend that you need to make inner peace. If it is the second, i assure you. Every guy has this. It is normal.

But let's go down the rabbit hole. Here's 3 short personal accounts of Zac that will really alter your reality forever. I leave you all to have your own conclusions as to your question on relationships without sex and whether it is possible. The journey along the way also covers

1)why long distance relationship doesn't work
2)moving fast is very very important
3)Friends/tools/resources, lovers, or tribe



Personal WARNING and again: If You Have Read GIrlschase a lot, and if you are starting out and You know how things work but can't get yourself out to remove your beliefs systems, You know that i don't bullshit. And i speak things so frankly that it does mess up people's brain. Just ask Chase and he probably tell you how many post he has taken down from me. Not saying i am proud. I'm telling you as it is. He probably thinks i'm nuts, too. Somewhat intelligent but passionately crazy.


Zac and Vanessa (why long distance relationship doesn't work)


The day was long. I haven't had a proper drink in awhile. I didn't knew. That Vanessa would show up in a dance event that i was in. Afterall, work, school, dance makes you wear and tear. But i love it. After serving my National service, i was really relishing on spending my two years in school the best way i can, socializing. As i was having my dinner done, i went up the few steps and go to the audio system. I saw Vanessa. I was like "woah, i haven't seen her in a long time". My friend was there with her. I didn't realize that she was there. He was a fat guy, huge. I don't judge, but he covered her and the audio system was in a narrow place.

I said Hi and she was puzzling happy to see me but she see me in a different light. She was nervous anxious but 2018 Zac would have fuck her right then and there.

She was "unusually" disturbing to me. So much that she interupts my conversation, not something that she do. She is a bubbly and cheerful girl. The kind of girl that everyone loves. That girl who is "normal", "nice". She asked me if i wanted to get a drink. I was into my conversation with my fat friend. I knew something was amiss. 2018 Zac will have catch this.

I found her at a major concert 3 weeks later. Her boyfriend just came back from overseas. Now i somewhat know why she was "interuptive" :)

Zac and Nixie (moving fast is very very important)

Playing captain's ball was fun. In fact, i am in a game now. My guy friends all suck man, but the ladies are crazy. The more i am passionate, the more they are. Throwing balls here and there, my friends speak between themselves. "That girl has a huge rack". They were all watching her, fucking make us lose the captain's ball game. Thinking about it back then, it was hilarious. The team that has that girl was playing just beside us.

Our game ended. I decided to start a conversation and soon after we were playing the game with them.

Of course, my friends abandon me at this point. They were messing up with me saying "Zac only chase girls with huge racks". We all laugh in the shower room as we get prepared to go home. I saw her walking with her friends. I started having conversations with them. This point, i knew i wanted to date the girl.

I got her facebook and a week later, her number on facebook and we went on a date. I had a dance lesson to teach students on that sunday and she made up time for me for the whole day. I decline because i had lesson. Of course, i didn't knew any better.

She called. She wanted to meet up at her place. I was mummed. I was inexperienced. She turn the conversation and we still went out on a day on the sunday, even if its awhile. She tolerated me on the journey and during our date. She questioned why did we need to travel. But 2018 Zac knew that she just wants me to plow her onto oblivion. I already "qualified" to her but i didn't know any better.

She still contacted me when she had other fresher guys. Just that the opportunity passed.

Zac and Joanna (Friends/tools/resources or lovers or tribe)

We have been friends for 1 and half year. I regret this even till today. Yes you can sleep with girls who are friends, but just enough that it doesn't go crazy. Friends are not lovers and will never be, but this is 2018 Zac. Not 2012 Zac.

We were the best of friends. We went to dance together. We went to events together. She also happens to be my student later on. We would go out and perform for events. In one fine evening, i took her to eat. It was only two of us. She become so weird suddenly. She look at me for long. But just enough that i didn't caught on. Eventually i ask her out on a date. She was anxious, she panics, but she was calm. If i had to say it in perfect terms, her face tells me that she like me but she also didn't want to throw away that friendship we had. In fact, this is the first time i see the matrix glitch in a person's face, that friends lovers and tribe conflict.

I was heartbroken but pretended we are friends. I knew she was lying. I knew she was lying, but she said yes to my date, while still glitching in the matrix. It was all over her face. :)

Our friendship will prevail first. So much so that i was annoyed. Because we were walking on eggshells. I know she did. I know i did. But she hurt me at one point in time and she was fearful. So much so that our friends find her weird. They will be fine with me but they found her weird. Needless to say, we went back and forth, and settle into a relationship, an unofficial one for like 3 weeks and we never really talk to each other again.

Before we move on our own separate lifes, she had a guy who will call her, message. Someone we knew, our friends knew. I call him to tell him that she is annoyed. He was puzzled, He thought i was her boyfriend. In fact, i somewhat was. I somewhat not. Events day arrive and i saw him flirting with her. She was somewhat annoyed and creeped out but not so much when she knows she is single. Afterall, we are not official. She never tried to make me jealous. Just that women have their own phases of life. and i see this in plain sight. It does hurt me.

She started talking about how i was romantic to her on Facebook and twitter. before all this happen. We are friends on facebook. And that's why i was heartbroken. I was heartbroken that she flirted with him in public infront of all of us despite protesting how he was this and that. She took me for a fool. I thought she was a nice girl. How can she bitch about this guy yet allow him to flirt with all of us around, and me, standing there working out our operations for the event.

It was sad we walk on eggshells. She was selfish, to me at least..... but the bigger roots was, we were friends, not lovers. She had to do what every women do


Is relationships without sex, possible?

I recommend you read story 2, and ingrain it with your real life experiences. And you probably reach an enlightenment. I let you guys to draw up your own journey. This is the first 3 stories of the large roots that propel Zac to his journey. Of course, his small roots started out back in 2006 or early. But I hope you find your roots and then larger roots that propel you to your own journey.

Zac
 
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Inowtakethelead

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Great work brother going to read this everyday day, Nail it in my head. There is this girl at work she wants to bang me, I will give her the pump and dunp, hope things don't get awkward on next monday, Lol so.. in story number 2 you already knew ahead of time what she was after.. which was sex with you, you saw her cards already played out. when you went to her house. Did she have feelings for you? But you didn't pull the trigger why? You said she was seeing other guys did that turn you off? You couldn't get physically close to her? Or was the vibe off? you said you were inexperienced in sex, did this throw you off your game, she said "she was seeing other guys" when did she say that? When you to were hooking up?

"I already "qualified" to her but i didn't know any better"

Ahh so she qualifed you. But you didn't want to push for a friends with benefits situation? Why, I don't understand your question.
Was it lack of confidence?
You knew what she wanted just lost interest?
Did she scare the 2012 Zac was she a independent strong women?

What is this matrix glitch face??

Is your personality reserved? Before 2012? Im reading this book, From Shy To Social - The Shy Man's Guide, I love it so far! I'm a very introverted guy. Now I'm breaking out to mr. Social.

So note to self.. move fast! or your the girls last option/ she will make a fool out of you... In case 3 she only saw you as a friend, wow I'm woke now thanks!
 

trashKENNUT

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inowtakethelead,

Inowtakethelead said:
in story number 2 you already knew ahead of time what she was after..

I did not knew her intention. She was excited when we first met, and after the game, we had conversations. There is where i got her facebook. I got her number about a week later. and we went out about 2 weeks later because we both had clashing schedules.

She was coy on facebook. So i didn't expect anything, but 2018 Zac gets the 'coy game'. Which girls do this very often. It is hard to explain it, it's more of like riding the wave when girls play the 'coy attitude' game.

But i did not see what she was after. And also because i was super early intermediate at the time. I would say that, probably.

Inowtakethelead said:
Did she have feelings for you? But you didn't pull the trigger why?

i don't think she is the kind of girl who develop feelings easily but she was more of a girl who is a sucker for "good" people. Chase highlight this with girls who have large breast. You tend to need to see her as a human being, which i did.

But i don't think she has feelings. Only slight.

Why i did not pull the trigger? Common man, i caught off guard when she ask me to meet her at her home.


Inowtakethelead said:
You said she was seeing other guys did that turn you off? You couldn't get physically close to her? Or was the vibe off?

She started seeing other guys after awhile, which i got to know of via friends of friends. I can get close to her. She already like me, as i mention. The vibe was great. I just didn't know what to do.

Inowtakethelead said:
you said you were inexperienced in sex, did this throw you off your game,

Oh yea. Girls suddenly want to jump 10 steps with you. I believe other guys, even expert level guys do find things like this, a shocker from time to time. Women like all sorts of things.

They are crazy. :)

Inowtakethelead said:
she said "she was seeing other guys" when did she say that? When you to were hooking up?

i got to know that she was seeing other guys via twitter and friends of friends. She slowly withdraws from me when i didn't hook up with her.

Inowtakethelead said:
Ahh so she qualifed you. But you didn't want to push for a friends with benefits situation? Why, I don't understand your question.

I actually wanted a relationship with her. She was a cool chick, really. But nutty. Like i said, i didn't have lots of experience in sex at the time. Plus, when girls do this type of things to you out of the blue, it does take you out of your realm.

Sure, there is no excuses. But we learn. i learn.

Inowtakethelead said:
Was it lack of confidence?
You knew what she wanted just lost interest?

Lack of confidence. LAck of skills in a such situation. And she lost interest overtime.

Inowtakethelead said:
Did she scare the 2012 Zac was she a independent strong women?

She was not that independent strong women, but she will likely scare most guys because she has a great rack. Also, she just sexually experienced than me (when i look back).

Inowtakethelead said:
What is this matrix glitch face??
Anxious, Worried and probably joy altogether. You see this more often when girls know you too overpowered and can cause her train to rail off track. If that's a way to put it.

Inowtakethelead said:
Is your personality reserved? Before 2012? Im reading this book, From Shy To Social - The Shy Man's Guide, I love it so far! I'm a very introverted guy. Now I'm breaking out to mr. Social.

I like to socialize when i am happy, but i'm also happy with myself. There's nothing wrong with being introvert. I have introvert friends. They just need certain triggers that makes them open up to you.

i would say that i was reserved somewhat. and glad you have a book.

Inowtakethelead said:
So note to self.. move fast! or your the girls last option/ she will make a fool out of you... In case 3 she only saw you as a friend, wow I'm woke now thanks!

More of like she wants me to stay as a friend and keeping quiet having interest in me because of the potential disaster, which did happened.

Inowtakethelead said:
Great work brother going to read this everyday day, Nail it in my head.

Humbled by post like this, and messages from time to time, from guys. It's a circle of life. Passing information to make the world a better place. :)

Zac
 
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