Reminders to go out and Meet Women; give me your email!

[PrettyDecent]

Hey y'all,

I was discussing with another member of GC about getting motivated to meet women regularly, not sporadically. His advice was to "paint your environment for success", that is, "self"-motivation is weak, and falters. But external motivation, other people or things pushing you, will help you go out even when you don't "feel like it".

So I'm going to start sending messages to people who give me their email, reminding them to go out and push themselves to meet women, every day (or whatever your schedule is). It's my hope that if we get a few people chaining each other, we'll have constant reminders from other people to go out and push ourselves, even when we "don't feel like it".

You can put your email (whichever one you see the most) in the reply section or you can PM it to me, and I'll help you push yourself, and you can push me, too.

My email: nickjesus3@gmail.com

 

[Estate]

So not to be controversial here buuuuuuuuuuut.....

I'm noticing a big trend on the forum lately of guys coming over who seem to be pretty ingrained in the styles of other PUA products (RSD stands out in a lot of posts but others as well...)
Not to slag anyone off here but I know myself and a lot of folks have been well aware of RSD, MM, and others for many years. Personally there's a lot of "hokey" stuff in their products, a lot of shaming guys into thinking they are losers for not bedding 5000 women in 3 days so they will buy more products, a lot of "mystic" crap and "inner game" (Woo Game I heard it called once?!?!) and so on...

I'm not putting that stuff down at all... it has worked for many guys but I'll admit I floundered in the PUA world for years... I knew about it but most of it sounded way too "out there" for me. I'm not wearing silly hats and goggles, I'm not doing weird inappropraite things to "get in state", and I'm not going to spend an hour convincing a girl she is like a cube. It was just never "me".

So where I'm going with this is... This stuff is all well and good on THOSE sites but I feel like this site has been so different. Chase sells products but doesn't push them, it's genuine advice, nobody is made feel like a failure for not doing something or getting something wrong, they are offered the advice to IMPROVE and encouraged.
I don't want to speak for Chase or anyone else but at least what *I* have taken from this site is a whole new approach the life in general, not just pickup. I've read a lot of the stories in the articles and it always came across like Chase is/was a really independent guy who does stuff for himself, was motivated to make HIMSELF learn all this stuff and put the effort in HIMSELF. Look, I don't know him personally but at least this is what I took away from a lot of articles... you motivate yourself.

Honestly, if I was to wake up this morning and decide I'm not approaching a girl, then I'm not approaching a girl. An email, a phone call, a text won't make me do it.
Infact I found it damaging. Guys post failed FR's on other forums and guys tear into them what failures they are, they aren't good enough, buy my product and get good, etc... it totally demoralizes guys who are new to this and are already probably down on themselves.

Saying self-motivation is "weak", I personally feel, goes against a HUGE part of what this site teaches but strongly plays into other sites philosophies. Self motivation has been the ONLY thing to get me out of some pretty big ruts and to be honest it came in a big way from reading articles on this site which were like a slap in the face I needed at the time. I relied on others to "push me" for too long and it did nothing.

Look... I don't know why this struck a chord with me, but this is an awesome site. The writers and top guys are fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.
My only concern is that a lot of folks are bringing in philosophies from other products to this forum. There's no harm in discussing or contrasting but they are being passed off as facts and seem very much in contrary to the teaching of this main site... it's very weird and confuses the new guys.
Strangley enough these posts are also coming from guys who only mere weeks ago were the new guys, were learning, were asking questions and messing up, yet already they are the "gurus". Sorry, I know this will get under some people's skin but it sounds odd to me.

I've been at this around a year now. It took a LOT of work to get to the more advanced place that I have.
I don't tend to post long motivational speeches on here much, I feel Chase has it all covered, I just like to add to conversations where I can. I don't like to post detailed FR & LRs for personal reasons and I generally post new threads when asking for advice because no matter how many women I can now sleep with, I know I can always learn more and ask questions when I DO fail (which everyone does at times!) So maybe I don't come across as one of the "top guys" here and I am perfectly fine with that, I don't need to be... but come on guys... what's the deal here? I'm all for open discussion but what's with all the conflicting views and RSD methodologies on here lately? It's starting to make this place a lot less fun.

 

[Ross]

Estate,

Saying self-motivation is "weak", I personally feel, goes against a HUGE part of what this site teaches but strongly plays into other sites philosophies.

I think you're misinterpreting self-motivation here. If there isn't a push to do something, you aren't going to do it. Not being pushed to become better with women by people on this forum and by the articles you read? Then there is no motivation. The motivation coming from this website isn't motivation coming from yourself. The feel for the need for sex? Sure, that's self-motivation. The feel for the need of food and pleasure? Yup. But when you cut down to the core of motivation, it happens for very distinct reasons.

I don't need to be... but come on guys... what's the deal here? I'm all for open discussion but what's with all the conflicting views and RSD methodologies on here lately?

I don't even know what "RSD methodologies" are. I came up with this idea of motivating others as a result of dissecting how people accomplish things. How do Olympic athletes become Olympic athletes? Why do certain environments, such as the area you live in, so heavily influence who you are?

The answer almost always points to the fact that they were being motivated by other people and their environment. Why do you think we suggest that people get a wingman? Even if you don't want to go out, you have your wingman there to remind you. Why does having a personal teacher/coach increase your rate of learning tenfold? Because that teacher is telling you to talk to women even if you don't want to. He shakes him out of his comfort zone, and allows him to finally reach a higher place of understanding and prowess.

Talking to others and motivating each other to get better is an amazing cycle. It creates championship teams. It can help y'all to get better at going out and meeting women. Ask anyone, "If you could have the most amazing day of your life today, would you do it?" And they'll say yes. Now, tell a guy to approach a beautiful woman and he'll be reluctant. He'll realize it's the most amazing day of his life after he sleeps with her, not beforehand.

 

[Humay]

So not to be controversial here buuuuuuuuuuut.....

I'm noticing a big trend on the forum lately of guys coming over who seem to be pretty ingrained in the styles of other PUA products (RSD stands out in a lot of posts but others as well...)
Not to slag anyone off here but I know myself and a lot of folks have been well aware of RSD, MM, and others for many years. Personally there's a lot of "hokey" stuff in their products, a lot of shaming guys into thinking they are losers for not bedding 5000 women in 3 days so they will buy more products, a lot of "mystic" crap and "inner game" (Woo Game I heard it called once?!?!) and so on...

I'm not putting that stuff down at all... it has worked for many guys but I'll admit I floundered in the PUA world for years... I knew about it but most of it sounded way too "out there" for me. I'm not wearing silly hats and goggles, I'm not doing weird inappropraite things to "get in state", and I'm not going to spend an hour convincing a girl she is like a cube. It was just never "me".

So where I'm going with this is... This stuff is all well and good on THOSE sites but I feel like this site has been so different. Chase sells products but doesn't push them, it's genuine advice, nobody is made feel like a failure for not doing something or getting something wrong, they are offered the advice to IMPROVE and encouraged.
I don't want to speak for Chase or anyone else but at least what *I* have taken from this site is a whole new approach the life in general, not just pickup. I've read a lot of the stories in the articles and it always came across like Chase is/was a really independent guy who does stuff for himself, was motivated to make HIMSELF learn all this stuff and put the effort in HIMSELF. Look, I don't know him personally but at least this is what I took away from a lot of articles... you motivate yourself.

Honestly, if I was to wake up this morning and decide I'm not approaching a girl, then I'm not approaching a girl. An email, a phone call, a text won't make me do it.
Infact I found it damaging. Guys post failed FR's on other forums and guys tear into them what failures they are, they aren't good enough, buy my product and get good, etc... it totally demoralizes guys who are new to this and are already probably down on themselves.

Saying self-motivation is "weak", I personally feel, goes against a HUGE part of what this site teaches but strongly plays into other sites philosophies. Self motivation has been the ONLY thing to get me out of some pretty big ruts and to be honest it came in a big way from reading articles on this site which were like a slap in the face I needed at the time. I relied on others to "push me" for too long and it did nothing.

Look... I don't know why this struck a chord with me, but this is an awesome site. The writers and top guys are fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.
My only concern is that a lot of folks are bringing in philosophies from other products to this forum. There's no harm in discussing or contrasting but they are being passed off as facts and seem very much in contrary to the teaching of this main site... it's very weird and confuses the new guys.
Strangley enough these posts are also coming from guys who only mere weeks ago were the new guys, were learning, were asking questions and messing up, yet already they are the "gurus". Sorry, I know this will get under some people's skin but it sounds odd to me.

I've been at this around a year now. It took a LOT of work to get to the more advanced place that I have.
I don't tend to post long motivational speeches on here much, I feel Chase has it all covered, I just like to add to conversations where I can. I don't like to post detailed FR & LRs for personal reasons and I generally post new threads when asking for advice because no matter how many women I can now sleep with, I know I can always learn more and ask questions when I DO fail (which everyone does at times!) So maybe I don't come across as one of the "top guys" here and I am perfectly fine with that, I don't need to be... but come on guys... what's the deal here? I'm all for open discussion but what's with all the conflicting views and RSD methodologies on here lately? It's starting to make this place a lot less fun.

I think you're taking this a tad too seriously. It's agree that it's great that this website is different (i checked out the PUA websites out of curiousity. The extreme objectification of women and seriousness on 'getting laid' was really uncomfortable). But i think this is just a bit of fun.

 

[Smurf]

I agree with Humay, there's nothing wrong with a little friendly encouragement!

Jake.