Running game in conservative and likely racist parts of the United States.

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I have been going out for the past few weeks a good amount and I live in an area of the USA that historically has a reputation of being not so accepting towards interracial relationships, particularly ones that involve white women with minorities. Now in my area, I generally see that even in the bar scene, everyone is usually sticking to their own races and groups for the most part. Occasionally I will see a girl of a minority group with a white guy or some black guy with a white girl but I never see guys that look like me (foreign or middle eastern/arab/pakistani) with a girl that is white, especially if she is good looking and local to the area. The region of the USA I am in just seems to have a bigger problem with racism than say California or New York.

When I have talked to my friends over the years, I have had plenty of them openly say how they think interracial relationships are strange, weird, and just not natural and all of my friends saying this were males. Not too sure about how the girls in the area feel about this though. Whenever I go to bars people say "Fez!" and "That's the guy from the yo mama show!", they mean to say that I look a lot like actor Wilmer Valderrama. Clearly not the standard of appeal in my area where women want the white guy with the nice pickup truck or the correct fraternity letters.

Over the years I have made friends with many guys who were white but I find that while they will smile in my face and chat me up as they see me in public, most never really call me to hang out or anything of the sort even though exceptions have existed over the years. I don't mean to bash all white guys in my area as some of them have been solid friends to me but I am sharing my general experience here. Many people I have talked to have said that racism is a major issue in the part of the USA I am in.

Now while I can make friends and haven't had any major racial incident happen to me in the past years, running game is something that concerns me.

I don't look white at all but mostly all of the hot and cute girls I run into when I go out are all white. A part of me worries that I may get lured into some type of situation where I might run into a few unwanted problems and confrontations.

Does anyone in here have any experience with this type of a situation and how I should factor it into account when running game? How should I approach this situation?

In the past few nights I have run night game, no major issue has happened but then again, I haven't gone all super aggressive PUA either.

 

[Rusty]

Hey. New to the board here, but here's my two cents.

I'm non-white. I live in a very diverse city. I've dated women within my ethnicity, and dated without. I've never gone out of my way to search for white, blonde women, but the ones I've run into are chill.

You see, your belief system and mindset are really important. If you think your race and ethnicity make you undesirable to these women, then guess what. You are. Whatever you believe about yourself, you project subconsciously and even consciously through your mannerisms and your way of being.

Instead of interacting with these women, you're putting them on a pedestal. The worst thing about this is that you're treating them like someone you can't relate to anymore. You're seeing them like a trophy and you feel like you don't deserve them.

Well guess what. Women aren't trophies to be won, and you don't earn them or deserve them. You express your desire, you go for it, and either she reciprocates that desire or she doesn't. And whether she reciprocates that desire is predicated on the character you present, the energy you project, all of which can either be enhanced and attractive to women, or sabotaging and repulsive, depending on your beliefs.

You have to love yourself, you have to respect yourself and you have to be proud of your image and your background. Own that shit. Don't fucking apologize for being whatever race or ethnicity. All types of men are attractive. It's all about how you feel about yourself and whether you give yourself permission to be a fucking man and take what you want.

I'll tell you something most men who don't deal with racism/ being a certain ethnicity. Here, there are articles and men who say race/ethnicity doesn't matter. Well, it's both true and false. Yeah, race doesn't matter. You can date whoever you want, if you're willing to calibrate and transform and adjust your style and image and character to attract those types of women, no doubt. You don't have to be a certain race to get white girls or whatever.

Is it easier? Probably. Because if you belong to that type of group/race, it's easier to relate generally speaking, and you "look" similar and familiarity is always appreciated. But does that mean since you're not white, you can't get a white girl? No.

Ok, fine. You don't see guys of your type dating these girls? Then be the first one. Break the fucking mold. Be a better man, transform, make whatever changes necessary and go get what you want. That's it. If after you go out and do what's necessary and change and give everything you got, and you still fail, then come back and say something. But until then, you haven't done enough, my friend.

Chase has provided more than enough advice and tips and there seems to be a lot of great advice on this board. Your worst enemy is you, you thinking too much, and not just saying "fuck it, I'm gonna do what I want, forget the haters (imaginary or otherwise)."

Make no excuses, block out those negative thoughts, and just go for it. Regardless, women will reject you, be indifferent, not want you, no matter how good your game is, regardless of her race. Just because you're white, doesn't mean you're automatically gonna get a white girl, and that goes for every other race out there.

Nothing is given, you have to take what you want.

 

[ray_zorse]

Hey mate this has been discussed before, over and over, in your other threads, I wouldn't have replied except that you seem to be doing quite well with yourself lately and being constructive, so I will take another shot at saying, well if this place is so bad, why are you still there? Umm look I'm possibly more fortunate than you, since I live in a place that is incredibly awesome for pickup (although that might just be my positive belief system talking), but even so I still travel to Japan regularly because I like doing pickup there too. So why don't you take a weekend away to a Northern city such as New York or LA... and spend a couple of days daygaming and nightgaming there, and see if your results are any different? If not then I'd suggest it's probably just your level of game, if so then you'll gain some great positive reference experiences to take home!
Ray
Edit: If you want to be really hardcore about it then I suggest homeless pickup. My process for homeless pickup is as follows:
1. Take a backpack containing 3 changes of clothes, 3 pairs underwear etc, and a few supplies to help you look good, such as a travel iron, toiletries, face towels etc.
2. Take a sleeping bag/blanket which is cheap and which can be hidden in a park or something while you are out gaming, so that if you lose it. it's not too big of a deal.
3. Get yourself a return ticket to the place of interest.
4. Give yourself $50 for each day you're going to be there, and a Starbucks card with $50 for emergency food or for dates. Leave your credit card at home.
5. Start approaching. Rapidly screen girls for interest and logistics. Ask girls if you can go home with them. If you get tired, sleep in the park where you put your gear.
Umm I have only gotten laid once like this, and I haven't been successful in inviting myself back to a girl's house yet, but I have certainly had enormous fun in trying I also met one of my current gf whilst doing homeless pickup, even though logistics and timing didn't favour immediate sex, we Skyped a bit and then met up in a different city later.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

The issue on this thread is safety, not just the inability to get laid. Newbie you should learn to read.

 

[ray_zorse]

Must admit I didn't read the last part of the OP that carefully. Well I reckon it's a bit like if a girl rejects you and you ask why, she'll make up a plausible-sounding excuse such as "You're not my type, I only date white guys" when in reality it was that she subconsciously wasn't attracted (for all the reasons Chase discusses, such as your nonverbals, qualifying yourself etc), but she wasn't consciously aware of this, so she searched around for a reason, found one, and it "became the truth" for her. Same thing if you get beaten up by a group of dudes in a bar... subconsciously they didn't like you and felt stronger than you and/or threatened by you... if ASKED they may say "yeah I beat him up b/c I don't like [insert race here] hitting on my girlfriend", but that's not the real reason. The real reasons people behave as they do (to strangers) come down to behaviour and power issues. Not race. Put it like this, if you came into the same club with a hot Latina celebrity on your arm and then talked to the dude's girlfriend, even if he doesn't like your race he isn't gonna beat up on you, cos he sees you as socially above him, maybe even someone who can help him. Just your behaviour can also get this effect, you don't need the accessories. Just look up articles on social grace and how to handle AMOGs and people who try to tool you. Act with authority and you'll never get beaten up. As an example I took my girlfriend to use a public toilet in a dangerous part of town some distance from the station late at night. A local gang was having drinks there and listening to a Ghetto blaster. They told me I would have to pay $10 to use the toilet. I laughed and said "get real"... I then stared him down and told him to get out of the way, a little more back-and-forth ensued in which I told him we were going to use the toilet no matter what and if he had a problem with that it was not my concern. Eventually he moved aside. I was quite frightened but due to my GC training I behaved like a boss.
Ray
PS Personal abuse is against forum rules, you received good advice from so-called "newbie" who put quite some effort into making that post for your benefit. I suggest you act grateful.