Calls & Texts scenarios of straight hard close or more aggressive texting....

[Skills]

This post inspire me of something i was thinking when going for straight hard close (i recently did similar)

There are times when you have a girl that are really high interest, really invested, it could be:

- you really hit it off and she really digs you
-she perceive you as higher value in her eyes
-you are really her type
-she things that you are the prize in her eyes
etc.... etc...

^this you will feel during the interaction and even during the texting...... I always advice for proper type high odds texting, but with girls like this sometimes you can cut corners this is due to:

- laziness (usually cause you are getting burned out during a really hot streak)
- you don't really care (it is a you can take it or leave it girls that you don't dig that much)
- you have a lot of momentum and abundance
-you have just too many leads and not enough time
-you have too many fwds or girls you are doing
- you are feeling her high excitement during the interaction and texting...

^here you can be more bold and skip soft closes and structure and go for hard closes, these are my favorites to the point hard closes in these scenarios, and it usually happens after high positive text responses, so i don't feel like soft closing:

-invite me over (usually when the subject is tv shows or movies) good high compliance and you go to closing location (this was favorite for a long time with live in mains, if she says yes she just agreed to sex)
-pick me up (usually when the topic is about activities)
-come over (topics of pain/massages/boredom/scare/cold/depression/stress/personal problems/recent breakup) this is good high compliance and she just agreed to sex.
-nextflix and chill
- make me dinner/food (topics about her cooking and meals she can make etc..)
- direct sexual stuff (grandmaster/mode1/appocalyse opener)

^the only downside it could cause flakiness (though i really never had that issue only sometimes with recent break up girls).. Again guys context, i still really advice for the other high odds proper structure texting is higher odds... But sometimes you will feel text where everything is done wrong and guys are being bold as fuck and is working, is due to what i am telling you here, the guys that don't know context and say "how is this happening makes no sense" that is why....

 

[rockstar]

I cut to setting up a date quickly with high-interest girls. I hate texting girls and want to minimize it as much as possible (for the same reasons you list out).

I used to do a lot of sexualizing over text for tinder/app leads. It'll give you a higher closing rate, but it's really just filtering for more dtf girls, right? I quit doing this, because I don't mind more challenging dates that much, sexualizing over text os more texting more work (when you could just do it in person), and you need to run a little more volume since you're filtering (but I never felt like lost many leads from sexualizing either).

Same deal for inviting girls directly over. Used to always go for straight-to-house. But I almost never fail on the pull since I started doing all my dates in public.

Generally I prefer to save texting effort to do more in-person game. But other people may be different on this

 

[KJ Francis]

Skills, if you get a sec, I'm curious if you think this technique's horrible or not.

I am still a too-low sex vibe nice guy, so I've tried using subtext to express without words that "yes I will pull you even if I seem too nice, don't worry"

So I do this by mentioning coming over in a brushed off way by inviting her for coffee or tea at my place or the coffee shop (in the same sentence).

i learned from Chase to put the option you want her to choose at the end, but I put my place first so it does not sound like my preferred option. I've done this a handful of times and she always agrees to the coffee shop without acknowledging the other offer.

 

[Skills]

Skills, if you get a sec, I'm curious if you think this technique's horrible or not.

I am still a too-low sex vibe nice guy, so I've tried using subtext to express without words that "yes I will pull you even if I seem too nice, don't worry"

So I do this by mentioning coming over in a brushed off way by inviting her for coffee or tea at my place or the coffee shop (in the same sentence).

i learned from Chase to put the option you want her to choose at the end, but I put my place first so it does not sound like my preferred option. I've done this a handful of times and she always agrees to the coffee shop without acknowledging the other offer.

It is off topic to post but, let me answer.... It is ok, does not really accomplish anything to be honest when it comes to your "low sex drive nice guy" issue, other than maybe you will get a girl that will agree to your place directly (so yeah you got nothing to lose by throwing that out there), the good thing i see is a bit of avoidance of a negative compliance for instance if you say come over for coffee, if she says no you are working on negative compliance... By giving in sales what we call an alternative choice close, she can not say no but just picks the safer option so you get her to meet anyways and avoid the negative compliance...

 

[Skills]

I cut to setting up a date quickly with high-interest girls. I hate texting girls and want to minimize it as much as possible (for the same reasons you list out).

correct, the point of the post

I used to do a lot of sexualizing over text for tinder/app leads. It'll give you a higher closing rate, but it's really just filtering for more dtf girls, right? I quit doing this, because I don't mind more challenging dates that much, sexualizing over text os more texting more work (when you could just do it in person), and you need to run a little more volume since you're filtering (but I never felt like lost many leads from sexualizing either).

that is one style but you burn through too many leads, and you are missing out in a lot of other girls that you could bang but are not advertising dtf....

Same deal for inviting girls directly over. Used to always go for straight-to-house. But I almost never fail on the pull since I started doing all my dates in public.

agreed, i found it the same with the ones that do not meet what i say in the post criteria, yes matches my experience...

Generally I prefer to save texting effort to do more in-person game. But other people may be different on this

of course but sometimes you can not do "more in person game" and with not texting i will not call it effort (i rather proper structure texting), she will not be there in person, get me...

 

[KJ Francis]

It is off topic to post but, let me answer.... It is ok, does not really accomplish anything to be honest when it comes to your "low sex drive nice guy" issue, other than maybe you will get a girl that will agree to your place directly (so yeah you got nothing to lose by throwing that out there), the good thing i see is a bit of avoidance of a negative compliance for instance if you say come over for coffee, if she says no you are working on negative compliance... By giving in sales what we call an alternative choice close, she can not say no but just picks the safer option so you get her to meet anyways and avoid the negative compliance...

Yeah goal here is still to go out, not meet first time at home... though still expressing intent to do so, like the pitch is to come over with the intro step of meeting in public to make sure you're safe. Your sales point makes sense avoid negative compliance. Like we can upgrade your infrastructure, or send a few demo units...

Actually from my 30 lays, #'s 9-30 were all first meet at isolated sex location (home or parking lot car meet), with three exceptions: #14 a fifteen minute coffee shop date, #26 a half hour coffee shop date, #29 a fifteen minute walk behind my place.

So apparently this is literally all I do hahaha high volume low percentage online screening. I grew up with a stutter and recently went from super quiet to chatting up retail workers constantly, getting comfortable talking to cute strangers. Day game newbie assignment next...