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Frost

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Hello guys,

This report is about my encounter with a girl at a party last Friday.

Intro

It's been about 3 months since I've moved to Paris, and it coincided with the time I started cold approaching women. In my first few weeks here I did a lot of approaches, got numbers, but didn't pan out in the end (still learning and practicing though). And last Friday there was a party at my university to celebrate the end of the inter-Europe student exchange week. During the party I had already talked to 2 girls before the story begins.


The Approach

So here I am in the party after getting nowhere with the 2 girls I had talked to earlier. I was in one of the rooms where there was loud music and dancing, and I was dancing with a group of friends. Suddenly I noticed a really cute girl, kinda short, with red hair and a nice body with a cute outfit (let's cal her Red), and with her was another girl, really plain looking (we'll call her friend) and they were both dancing. I was kind of surprised when I saw them with no guys trying to hit on them or dance with them (my university has around 15% girls only), so I decided to go talk to them.
They were dancing near a wall so I went over there and said hi. They look at each other and move away from me, which confused me first, but then Red makes a movement with her hand as in letting me pass. Apparently they thought I was trying to pass and they were blocking the way, so I get closer to her and told her that I came over to talk to her. She immediately lights up and we all exchange names, but it was really loud, so I told her "let's go outside so we can hear other better" and she agreed.


Initial Conversation

So the 3 of us get out of the room to somewhere less loud, but still in the party venue, and we start making small talk, like what do you do and this kind of stuff. She's very responsive, holding eye contact, always saying something if the conversation is about to slow down and most importantly, she was reciprocating touch and standing really close to me. She starts asking me questions about which university I'm in and which country I come from but always making sure to include the friend in the conversation. And she was constantly telling me that I have a really good french out of the blue (complimenting me), and even though I told her I'm from the university that's hosting the party, every time I say hello to someone I knew who was passing by she tells me 'Wow you're so popular here".

She asks me about my age, I tell her to guess, and she gets it right from the beginning XD (and I do too, she's 20, I'm 22) then she asks me about my birthday and all kind of stuff to which I don't give a direct answer, instead tease her a bit or make her guess. At many occasions she would get close to me while holding eye contact and I would keep it and get closer, making it more intense, then breaking it and talking about other stuff. At some point she tells me that she wants to tell me a secret, then she tells me that her father is the dean of this university, and I'm like holy shit. I tease her a bit about it, then I move them to another place nearby.


Phase Two

I ask her how they met each other, she tells me not to laugh and that they met on an internet forum and that it was the first time they see each other live. It was actually cool since I have met some people in real life from this forum ;)

She then asks me to teach them things in Arabic (my native language), so I ask her what do you want to know? She asks me how do we say "dick" in Arabic. To be honest I wasn't expecting this at all, but I stayed cool, gave her a mischievous smile and told her. Then she said "so how do you say I got a big dick". I told her that we actually don't say that because there is no need, again with the smirk. She smiles and says "Ohh yeah because that's too obvious to say", to which I respond with a playful smile. Then she asks if I have younger siblings, and I say that I have a younger sister. She asks if I am protective of her and beat up her boyfriends, I laugh first but then I tell her that I love my sister but I should let her live her life. She agrees with a sigh that came across as "finally someone who gets it" and says that it's important, and that she has 3 older brothers blablabla. Then she and her friend whisper something to each other and tell me they want to dance, I'm like let's go.


Back To The Room

We go back to the room we were in when I met them, then she tells her friend something and turns to me

Red: Can I tell you something but you won't judge us?
Me: What is it?
Red: Actually Friend and I are lovers. We're lesbians.
Me (totally unfazed, plus earlier she told me that she had an Arab BF): Oh really?
Red: Yep
Me: Hmm okay, well why don't you two kiss right now?
Red (look of pure shock on her face, looks at her friend, also shocked, who shakes her head like hell no!): What??
Me (still unfazed): You heard me, kiss.
Red (still looking at the friend and the latter giving a definitive no): But we can't do it here people will see us!
Me: Sure you can
(They were both still confused, but smiling at each other, couldn't believe I called their bluff)
Me (in Red's ear): Bullshiiitt
Red (smiling): Well you caught me
Me (pulling her close to me and talking in her ear): Are you trying to get rid of me? (in a firm not supplicating way)
Red (putting her hand behind my back and getting even closer to me): No no we were just trying to make it more fun but you caught us

So we start dancing. I actually suck at dancefloor game, I don't know how to calibrate and am mostly conservative with my touching there (still need to work on that) and we were dancing the 3 of us but I wasn't actually touching Red, and she was not really dancing in way that's opening up to me but rather ignoring my presence altogether. They whispered in each other's ears many times, then she says that they're going to the bathroom, followed by something I couldn't make out. So they go and I go find my friends and get a drink.

After a while I go back in and find them dancing in the back of the room. I dance a bit with them like before, then the friend looks like she's not really well. I ask what's wrong? Red talks to her and tells me that her friend has to go home before she gets too tired since she has to drive. I ask if she's going with her, she says no, she lives close she can return on foot. I was thinking that I finally got rid of the friend so I can pull Red home. Then she says bye and kisses me on the cheek. I was confused at this point, so I told her to give me her number so we can see each other again. She looks at me for 2 seconds then tells me "Oh I'm sorry but I have a boyfriend. But my friend doesn't". I say something to change to subject since I don't want her friend's number and then they leave.


Recap and Questions

I was very confused by what happened, and even though she said she had a boyfriend, whether it's true or not, she was definitely showing huge signs of interest, and I'm sure that I could have pulled her at some point.

My main issue was getting rid of her friend. The entire time I was trying to think of something but couldn't figure it out. I also think I should have escalated more even if in front of her friend, because one thing that I noticed in Paris is that girls will get quite physical with guys even with their friends or people from their social circle are around, which is the exact opposite of what happens where I come from, where reputation is very important.

I also think I should have gotten more sexual when she asked me how to say "dick" and so on.

Also during the conversation I was touchy, but not enough in my opinion.

Any ideas?
 
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Michael

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I'm just spitballing here, but I think the whole "fake lesbian" thing could have been a missed opportunity. How do you think this would have played out?

Frost said:
Red (still looking at the friend and the latter giving a definitive no): But we can't do it here people will see us!
You: OK then let's go somewhere more private

To which you could follow up with suggesting/hinting at a threesome. Even if it didn't lead to one, it still shows that you're super comfortable with sex. "Have you two lovers ever shared a man before?"

And about there being only 15% girls, I feel you. I'm in a technical program at a technical university, and it can be frustrating when you go to a party and realize that not only do the three girls that are there have boyfriends, their boyfriends are there with them. You seem to be doing OK though. And Paris is a big city!
 

Frost

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Michael said:
I'm just spitballing here, but I think the whole "fake lesbian" thing could have been a missed opportunity. How do you think this would have played out?

Frost said:
Red (still looking at the friend and the latter giving a definitive no): But we can't do it here people will see us!
You: OK then let's go somewhere more private

To which you could follow up with suggesting/hinting at a threesome. Even if it didn't lead to one, it still shows that you're super comfortable with sex. "Have you two lovers ever shared a man before?"

And about there being only 15% girls, I feel you. I'm in a technical program at a technical university, and it can be frustrating when you go to a party and realize that not only do the three girls that are there have boyfriends, their boyfriends are there with them. You seem to be doing OK though. And Paris is a big city!

I absolutely loved this one :). But I'm still getting used to having my "dirty mind" at 100% when talking to women, but it's not easy after years of being conditioned not to do so.
 

kalyan

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The way i see it, the interaction was evidently at night. That means, the whole number thing wouldnt work: you just had to make something happen on the spot.
I know you probably werent thinking about this, but pulling both girls would have been a very good option. You couls have tried your chances with both: worst case scenario you end up losing them, which sort of already happened. Also keep in mind that her friend had a car and a place: thats logistics for you! Next time, assume this possibility, and dont think of number closing a girl just because you failed to escalate: its like telling her "hey i know i failed now but just give me your number so i can try again.."... Not sexy.
If you were to ask for her number, i would suggest you would've done it way earlier (20 min into the interaction) and ended the interaction with "hey it was nice talking to you", and talking to her later (although im sure even this isnt the best course of action)
 
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