FR Second time I've had to watch a nice ass walk away

[thedude]

So I had three dates in a row this week and i'm 0 for 3 haha.

This date went in a similar fashion to the one yesterday, except I met her at a coffee shop and got her back to my place where nothing happened.

So I meet her, start banter... kino intermittently,

This time I try and add push pull into my interaction. I say ...

" I like you though you might be too innocent for me"

Her: innocent how? "while kinda laughing"

Once again she looks straight ahead the entire time while we sit on the couch. I make sure that we are sittng close together as we are talking about a bunch of different topics.

Other than that it's hard to say what else was going on, this chick was boring to ttalk too haha.

I try using a yes ladder to get her to my place...

Me: Do you like talking to me?
HeR: So far so good
Me: Do you want to continue hanging out with me?
Her: Sure
Me: Why don''t we go watch some old 90's cartoons together.
She declines this first attempt...

Then later I try again saying we should go listen to music, we make the 10-15 minute walk back to my place and at the end she's asking where we are going...

I say where the good music is and we get back to my place. Shoes and jacket off, I put on some music and the conversation continues.

I go to kiss her and she rejects it, I stay cool, try again later and she is still super cagey. She says she has to go and I look at her big ass as she walks away....

Then this text convo ensues

HeR: Made it home...
Me: You sure walk slow
Her: It's not that close to my place, and it's nice outside
Me: Glad you had a nice walk
Her: Yeah

I don't understand why these two black chicks keep texting me after rejecting me.

Perhaps there is a way to salvage?

If my report is lacking critical information, ask me for it and I'll describe it, I'm kind of tired atm...

P.s- All three girls said some variation of.. "I don't do that on the first date"

 

[windsofchange]

I'm nowhere near an expert, but from what I can see, it may be that you haven't come across as a sexual guy enough. More like a platonic vibe. You mentioned you went through a bunch of different topics, was there any chase framing involved? Sexual framing stuff?

Also seems a bit like you 'conned her' into coming back to your place. It's good to be a bit mysterious but you may have gone a bit too mysterious with the 'where there is good music'. That could be another reason why it seemed a bit uncomfortable to her.

You did manage to gain compliance when she agreed to come with you, so you are definitely building some form of rapport and connection, getting them to feel comfortable with you. May just be that its platonic.

What kind of kino did you do? You just touch her a bit here and there? Did you get her to show you things, whisper in your ears in a 'bubble'? Did you have piercing eye contact at any point, where you could see her eyes melt to you?

Also how did you react to the 'innocent how' question? Did you answer directly, play coy with her, or did you sort of look away with a slight sly smile?

 

[PrettyDecent]

CollegeSenior,

You're definitely getting boyfriend-zoned, my friend.

I'd give you advice on getting over that, but it's actually been happening to me quite a lot recently as well.

If a girl texts you after though, that's a great sign. She's letting you know she's still interested in seeing you again despite turning down your advances. It's a way to keep you out of auto-rejection

It also means that you can still get laid. At the moment, your texts look quite challenging and cold, so you're shooting yourself in the foot with getting laid here. You want to be very warm and flirty through texts, because there's actually a decent chance you'll get laid if you keep seeing each other.

By the look of this particular chicks first text, it looks as though the escalation ended on a sour note - instead, you want to appear nonplussed every time she spurs your advances. If you try and kiss her but she rejects, just change the subject to what it was before and be as happy as you were before. Then try again after.

It not only increases the chance of you getting laid on the first date, it also increases the chance you get her on a second (or third) date to lay her then, just in case.

~Nick

 

[thedude]

Thanks for the reply's guys,

So I'm actually texting these girls right now.

It seems my greatest flaw is that I'm not getting them hot and bothered enough to just fuck the shit out of me.

Also my deep diving may also be lacking, I'm not getting into a deep emotional thing with these girls and then stearing it towards horniness.

I'm going to try some NLP patterning on my next dates as well as reread Richard's old LR's to see how he introduces sex into convos without NLP stuff.