Seduction in the Iron Temple

[MrVariety]

I'm starting this journal to share my process on mastering pick up at the gym - in case anyone finds it valuable or would contribute to what I'm trying to learn.

Some context: I started lifting ten years ago - which I've done consistently leading to a bodybuilding physique. I started pick up approximately the same time, but the intensity has varied. I was full into night game for the first couple years, then transitioned into day game, and then more and more becoming an integrated part of my life rather than something I "do," hence the transition toward things like pick up at the gym.

I've been practicing picking up girls at the gym for roughly a year now, gradually doing it more and more now that I've become more comfortable doing so. I had a wake up call when I realized how much time I spent in the gym and how few girls I've talked to there. I've always have had a hang-up on talking to girls at the gym due to the pressure. Now I want to really get this one down.

I find it exciting that not only can very few guys can approach girls in the day time in the street. But among pick up artists, talking to girls at the gym is relatively rare - and it seen as difficult. It would be exciting for me to master something niche like this.

I've written a guide on how to do this from what I've learned so far here: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/a-little-guide-on-how-to-pick-up-girls-at-the-gym.30793/ and I hope to update it as I continue.

Monday:
As I entered the gym there was a girl I had already talked to doing some reverse hamstring stuff. She looked at me and we smiled at each other. After putting my stuff in the locker I started a conversation talking about how I checked out another gym by her recommendation. She was talkative but then told me she had to finish her workout. She always smiles at me seeing me. I've tried to take her number the first time I talked to her, but she told me she had a boyfriend. Maybe things have changed. I'll probably suggest working out together next time I'm talking to her, and then make fun of myself I'm a horrible person for not respecting that she have a boyfriend.

I've always idealized her as a prime hot gym girl. Having conversation with her close up today made me realize her face is kind of weird.

The regular P.T gatekeeper was overhearing the conversation. I try to limit approaching in front of him too much but opening to her about a past subject makes it seem like we already know each other. I think it's a bonus since she was more engaged in the conversation than I was.

Eventually a cute young fit ginger girl with a nice blue ass started rowing, and then stopped rowing to lift weights. I've seen her before but I asked her anyway "Are you new here?" she smiled and said "No I've been here for about a year". Then I went to do lateral raises, she did pull-ups. I finished my set. The ping had received a positive feedback, smile and she gave me more info than I asked for. So I rebooted with "A year, really? How come I haven't seen you before?"

it was sort of a forced approach since she was having headphones on doing super sets and I was obviously disturbing... but I've become more comfortable doing sort of awkward approaches just standing there until she finished. I've come to understand not every approach has to be smooth or James Bondy...

The conversation then went to her training schedule, my training schedule, etc. "I can only train in the afternoon because of school." "Oh, are you going to [local university]?" "Nooo I'm still in secondary school.... I'm 19." And then she told me she was going to the military in autumn.

This would've been the perfect opportunity to say something like "Oh, so soon! Maybe we could squeeze in a work out together before I leave for summer vacation."

But I didn't. Just before that I saw a bunch of 19-year old guys (gym regulars) enter the room we were in and she looked over, I felt she knew them, and so I felt too weird asking to hang out in front of them. I guess I'm ashamed for not caring she's 19. It's so fucking stupid. I can't believe some teenagers got in my head. What would they do, anyway? I definitely need to just stop caring so much about what other people think of me.

Homework is to visualize over and over she saying she's nineteen, everyone hears it, me asking for number in front of everyone.

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Friday I had a sort of epiphany that I felt like home in the gym. I've basically talked to over half of the people in that day. It seems like this "home" feeling stems from how many people I've talked to. And feeling at home somewhere changes the dynamic entirely when talking to people.

Not a single hot girl in the gym until Saturday. Though I didn't even approach. Two girls entered the gym, the third had arrived early and was on the treadmill. When the third girl walked over to them our eyes met and we smiled to each other. She was not pretty, but I had the perfect opportunity to open the set with a warm person and then eventually transition to her cute friends. I screwed this one up.

Mr Variety

 

[the player of games]

me asking for number in front of everyone.

Read your guide, not that I'm going to be picking up in the gym anytime soon.

You said that you are sociable with everyone, including guys in that guide. Do you get their phone numbers too? That would cement you as the sociable guy and it's no big deal that others now see you going for a girl's number. Plus you might actually make some friends as a bonus.

 

[MrVariety]

Read your guide, not that I'm going to be picking up in the gym anytime soon.

You said that you are sociable with everyone, including guys in that guide. Do you get their phone numbers too? That would cement you as the sociable guy and it's no big deal that others now see you going for a girl's number. Plus you might actually make some friends as a bonus.

It would be misguided to take numbers of guys just for the show. It doesn't make enough of a difference to bother with it. I'd change the emphasis as the primary benefit is getting friends, and plus it might actually be a bonus in terms of cementing the casual social attitude you can use to alleviate pressure when picking up girls.

I occasionally exchange numbers with guys - but not as often as with girls. The threshold of awkwardness or "beyond normal" when talking to guys is much lower for me than with girls. Problem for me is that I don't really have that intrinsic motivation to want to hang with a guy unless he's super cool, my age, and is approx. on the same level of fitness as I am or above.

If anything, what makes a difference for cementing a good reputation is training together regularly with various people at the gym. When you feel you know people there, you'll feel at home, and you will be much more relaxed talking to girls.

Mr Variety

 

[MrVariety]

It's been a while since I posted here. For some time I trained without any girls in sight, except when I was training with the one girl I was currently seeing. When I trained with her there was a lot of PDA, and there was one cute fit blonde who looked at me every time I looked at her. We shared eye contact probably six times and she sometimes took the initiative. I was burning on the inside. I couldn't make up my mind whether my girl or she had the better ass, but she definitely had the better face. How horrible that the warmest of warm approaches happens precisely when it's totally inappropriate to approach her.

So the girl I've been training with regularly has basically cockblocked me. Great.

I've trained alone once after this - I was not feeling very expansive. Turns out I was developing a fever. There was maybe three or four approachable women, and there was one guy in the gym who talked to a lot of them, making the laugh out loud. At first I thought he knew them, because they were so engaged in the conversation. Then I suspected he owned the gym. But he's just a guy who's really good at the Farming Method. When I left the gym he initiated a interaction and I replied briefly. I don't know why I shut him off, but it was probably because I was feeling sick.

I feel considerable more resistance talking to women who some other guy has also recently chatted up. I'm afraid I'm overwhelming her "All the guys are talking to me today, what's up with that?" since it's so uncommon to do this, at least my country, to talk to one another in the gym, I'm afraid it will be just so weird for her to have me come up after him. The only way to find out if my concerns are legit is to actually just do it - talk to her after the other guy, and see what happens.

Been out of the gym due to sickness, summer camps, retreats, etc.

Yesterday I got back in the gym, and I noticed there was a new staff member, a young cute girl. She was really lively and I introduced myself, basically saying I noticed whenever there's someone new here and she asked if I'm a social person and I said yes. We had a fun conversation, definitely nice to befriend her.

Today I saw a really fit girl with pink juicy shorts. I walked past her a couple times looking at her but she was in her own world. The gym was crowded so I figured there's nothing really to be gained here. She had stuff on a bench I wanted to use so I took the opportunity "Excuse me are you using this?" and she surprisingly replied with expansive energy saying no no I just left my stuff here haha go ahead and take it." And I said "Oh by the way are you new here?" I haven't seen her before. We chatted about work out schedules. I said I liked to train at a specific time because there's only old people in the gym, and she was making jokes about she one time asked a grandma to spot her bench press. I "cold read" her workout program and I made her laugh a lot and eventually tried something @James Cruse nspired me to do, going for the insta date. I asked her what she was doing after the work out and she said "I'm going to go make dinner and then rush off to work." So no insta-date. But I asked when the next time she's going to train, she said "Probably tomorrow." "Cool, do you want to train together?" "Sure!" She said, and we shook hands at 12:00. Didn't take her number. Might have been a mistake. Who knows. But I like this because all the signals initially told me she wasn't worth approaching. With experience I realize everything I know is wrong.

Hopefully I'll manage a insta date soon though.

Mr Variety

 

[MrVariety]

Gym workout with the fit pink juicy shorts girl went all good - I picked up lots of variations of stuff and new exercises I've come to be fond of. Lot's of exchange in gym tips between us so that's nice. Problem is she's working 200% and have barely any free time outside the gym. If I'm going to spend time with her it's going to be another gym date. Somewhat lost interest. I texted her, and then bumped into her another day. She told me she just saw my message and haven't had time to reply. She texted me later that day... I haven't had much motivation to follow up on this one.

Today I broke my own rules. I've been taking creatine lately and it's been like a crazy drug for me for training focus. I decided to put on headphones against my own advice. I saw a really thinly dressed girl with yet another pink training tights, white top. pink headphones, slim feminine girl doing RDL's over and over and over again. I finished my workout, took off my headphones, said something but she didn't hear me, she was about to do her set. So I waited sort of awkwardly checking my phone until she finished the longest set of RDL's I've ever witnessed in my life and then I waved, she took off her headphones and I asked if she's new here. She was - and new in town - and we talked about what a pity people aren't social in gyms here, and she missed her time in Germany. She was talking constantly, super soft ASMR voice, I asked her to show me her music and I showed her mine. She was dancing while she was talking - super cute. She did another set of RDL's (21 reps) while she was talking simultaneously about how her body parts etc and I was checking out her form and I realized I'm actually staring at her ass when I suddenly got aroused. She didn't mind. I wanted to go for insta-date but she had just started her training and I was done. So we agreed on training tomorrow at another gym 12:00 tomorrow. Shook hands on it, and I took her WhatsApp too "In case something comes up, and I can't make it"

Though I prefer training at this time, it's not really the ideal considering it's the start of the day so if I want to eat or hang out later it might be a bigger investment considering it's less natural to end it in the middle of the day in summer vacation. Hm. I'm going to figure it out. Anyway I love girls with probable ADHD, who lacks self-consciousness - super comfortable to hang out with. Looking forward to tomorrow. As I said bye I saw the other pink shorts girl from the other day. Maybe she saw maybe she didn't. Don't care. I'm hyper social and I find it easier to hang out with women than men. Nothing wrong with that.

What I would like to focus on improving is fighting the urge to inject stuff while she's talking. Also I am generally too friendly, like nodding head and agreeing. I would like to be more challenging and give her more space to impress me, to be comfortable with a little silence to add some pressure upon her to see if she comes up with something cool to say.

Energetic Mr Variety on creatine

 

[MrVariety]

Following up on the last post, meeting at noon actually worked out in my favor this time. I had taken her Whatsapp but I didn't text her, just assuming she would show up. Eventually it was 12:10 and then I went on her Whatsapp and sent her a message, I noticed she had a new profile picture so I clicked on it and then I saw her status "I'm running a bit late, I'll explain when I get there." LOL.

Did back day with her. She did half-strict pull-ups to the chest for ten reps, excusing herself of her poor performance due to body lotion on her hands. It just makes no logical sense to me as how those thin arms can produce that power to lift her up as if she's wearing a thick ass band. She has also been able to do muscle ups. Impressive woman! The exercises I showed her (invented?) helped her with her shoulder issues so that's nice too.

Afterwards we went to my place and made food. She's vegetarian and I'm carnivore so we had to be creative. What's nice about the carnivore diet is that I actually cannot go for lame dates, like dinners (too expensive) or smoothies or whatever. It actually forces me to bring her back to my place or go to hers to cook. The other day I went out to eat with a girl after bowling and my bank account had $100 less afterwards. Completely unnecessary, silly and counter-productive. I made a compromise and ate cod with mango salad. Yummy. Went to the beach to bathe afterwards and dropped her off around eight hours after initially meeting her.

Chemistry is good, talked on a phone for an hour the next day and agreed to meet the following after that. This time we went to a competitive bodybuilding gym. Upon picking her up at her place my eyes caught the glimpse of her figure of her red tight shirts. Oh my god. Tried brush that image away from my head. I had been to this gym the day before and met the owner, he was cool, but this time he was doubly friendly me bringing her with me. He smiled and nodded. The gym was empty except for us and the owner, and he showed us how to use a rare piece of leg equipment. Best equipment I've used, it felt amazing and we pushed ourselves beyond our limits. It was a killer work out. She is unfathomably strong - works out hardcore, perfect training partner.

We drove to a landscape of interspersed granite islands and beaches, bathed together again but this time I eventually cuddled with her fingers, she cuddled back *sigh massive inner relief* and then we made out in the ocean. She started shivering eventually after the suns strength waned, and when my physical touch wasn't enough to keep her warm anymore we got up drove back home to my place to cook food and did other things too - though since I'm limiting this journal to gym specific pick up I guess there's no need to go further in detail other than that it was a successful pick up by any standard. I'm glad I met her, she's a rare woman where I can be (almost) completely authentic and the best side of me comes out. She asked me what made me approach her in the gym, and I answered I sensed a good energy from her - I suppose it's true, but I can only guess. I was on the verge of not approaching because I had too much locked-in focused aggressiveness from the music and creatine - and that it was an awkward first failed attempt of initiating the conversation.

Mr Variety