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trashKENNUT

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Hi Guys,

Recently, I been talking about white-knight syndrome and today, i remember being the guy who wants to get the girl whom is in a relationship. After some time, marriages and relationship bother me for quite abit.

People will say, "Oh oh, Zac is going that route now, he's falling in love, or that he is influenced by society". Actually i am not, although i won't say in absolute, because whatever you focus upon, you be more of it.

I am concern with my life, on a more personal level. I look at a great guy like Chase, or any guy who has a great beautiful women and she has a great personality. Sometimes, i am like "i want to be that guy". I want to feel that i am capable in achieving anything. This is not about other people, really. I don't feel there's any value in me being "proud" in front of people for no reason. There's no objective in being proud for people, because i want to use proud as a self esteem, to let me know how far i have go and what i can do, knowing i can do this and do this and this.

It's abit sad. I do feel really sad because i do not achieve absolute abundance with women, for now.

Zac
 

trashKENNUT

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Common guys, Give me something to cheer up.

A virtual ass grab or something.

Zac
 

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Haven't been on for a while, just been enjoying the summer and catching up on hobbies before starting the grind for next year!

For me it's more of an ambition, people will talk about their wants but few will actually go and achieve them.

I think that you just have to continue with the mindset. You can be that man, all you need is to keep logging the hours. It's also a bit sad when we 'change' and no longer fit in with our current friends and relationships. For me it didn't bother me so much but I did get some flak about changing/ not being the same anymore. For me continuous improvement is what I now enjoy and just kept the proper friends that meant the most to me.

As long as you are developing something that you enjoy and keep being proud of yourself, does how society view you really matter so much?

As values change and you might become the minority; it might be lonely for a while as no-one seems to realise your view points.

Keep at it Zac and rid those negatives. I'm pretty sure you can be that man all the time, just keep at it.

Glitch
 

trashKENNUT

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Glitch,

Glitch said:
As long as you are developing something that you enjoy and keep being proud of yourself, does how society view you really matter so much?

I am actually more concern with my ability to provide. You get what i mean? I can disqualify myself as boyfriend material for women. but this is me as a person, i want to feel that i can do more than that.

I want to know that i can provide. It isn't about women but myself. I don't care about other people, i just feel sad because i cannot help myself, at a lot of things.

Zac
 

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so ZacAdam, what you are saying is that you don't earn as much as you want? is that the underlying issue?

ZacAdam said:
Glitch,

Glitch said:
As long as you are developing something that you enjoy and keep being proud of yourself, does how society view you really matter so much?

I am actually more concern with my ability to provide. You get what i mean? I can disqualify myself as boyfriend material for women. but this is me as a person, i want to feel that i can do more than that.

I want to know that i can provide. It isn't about women but myself. I don't care about other people, i just feel sad because i cannot help myself, at a lot of things.

Zac
 

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Tayo,

Tayo said:
so ZacAdam, what you are saying is that you don't earn as much as you want? is that the underlying issue?

Money is one thing. but rather my injuries and self esteem has take a hit. If you happen to read, i have a runner's knee that's been bothering me and my shoulder socket feels terrible, all for a year.

To sum it up, i was never as good as i thought i were in the first place. (IT hits me like a tornado, and that it's like my past success didn't matter or any success doesn't matter, because i feel that every moment or obstacle suddenly becomes a new obstacle, with different rules)

Zac
 

Tim Iron

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Zacadam, I don't think it is as bad as you think... u are in a plateau right now. Have you gone to a doctor to check your runner's knee and shoulder socket. {I used to have problems with my knee when I was training in wing chun kung-fu but now I only do dumb bells workouts to keep fit.}

Don't give up or get sad, keep putting the effort and analyzing what problems that come along... that is how life can be sometimes...

ZacAdam said:
Tayo,

Tayo said:
so ZacAdam, what you are saying is that you don't earn as much as you want? is that the underlying issue?

Money is one thing. but rather my injuries and self esteem has take a hit. If you happen to read, i have a runner's knee that's been bothering me and my shoulder socket feels terrible, all for a year.

To sum it up, i was never as good as i thought i were in the first place. (IT hits me like a tornado, and that it's like my past success didn't matter or any success doesn't matter, because i feel that every moment or obstacle suddenly becomes a new obstacle, with different rules)

Zac
 

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Tayo,

Tayo said:
Zacadam, I don't think it is as bad as you think... u are in a plateau right now. Have you gone to a doctor to check your runner's knee and shoulder socket. {I used to have problems with my knee when I was training in wing chun kung-fu but now I only do dumb bells workouts to keep fit.}

I don't know man. I am just walking a lonely road at the moment. :)

Zac
 
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ZacAdam, sounds like the story of my life also... we all feel like that sometimes... just keep trying to fix whatever is bothering you and don't ever give up.

ZacAdam said:
Tayo,

Tayo said:
Zacadam, I don't think it is as bad as you think... u are in a plateau right now. Have you gone to a doctor to check your runner's knee and shoulder socket. {I used to have problems with my knee when I was training in wing chun kung-fu but now I only do dumb bells workouts to keep fit.}

I don't know man. I am just walking a lonely road at the moment. :)

Zac
 

nexus321

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Hey man you sound a lot like me. Keep your chin up. And I'm going to let you in on a little secret. STOP JERKING OFF. Since I stopped I have practically 0% approach anxiety. I'm getting better and better reactions from women. Last night I danced with a random girl, a year ago I couldn't even walk into a nightclub by myself!!!

Listen the only person that can save you from a lonely life is you. Not Chase, not me or any other pua guru, or forum poster. You need to break down every interaction and think to yourself, what have I not tried!?

I used to be very vain and conceited. Whenever I approached and I failed I would say. I'm probably not her type, I'm probably too this and that. I never thought hmmm, maybe the reason I failed is because I didn't come across the way I wanted?
So figure out 'your' way of making things work. Good luck bro, I'm rooting for you!
 

trashKENNUT

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nexus321,

I am actually offended by what you said, I don't know if it came off wrong or something but whatever. It's not about jerking off when i am saying here is about me as a person.
 

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ZacAdam said:
nexus321,

I am actually offended by what you said, I don't know if it came off wrong or something but whatever. It's not about jerking off when i am saying here is about me as a person.

I didn't mean to offend you man, I was trying to inspire you. Everyone has problems man, everyone thinks at some point in their lives 'I'm not enough" you just gotta forget that shit man and keep trying
 

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Hey man you sound a lot like me. Keep your chin up. And I'm going to let you in on a little secret. STOP JERKING OFF. Since I stopped I have practically 0% approach anxiety. I'm getting better and better reactions from women. Last night I danced with a random girl, a year ago I couldn't even walk into a nightclub by myself!!!

Listen the only person that can save you from a lonely life is you. Not Chase, not me or any other pua guru, or forum poster. You need to break down every interaction and think to yourself, what have I not tried!?

I used to be very vain and conceited. Whenever I approached and I failed I would say. I'm probably not her type, I'm probably too this and that. I never thought hmmm, maybe the reason I failed is because I didn't come across the way I wanted?
So figure out 'your' way of making things work. Good luck bro, I'm rooting for you!

It was offensive because Zac is literally the most active member on the forum, more than Chase and Franco. And advice stop jerking off because you assume he has fear of approaching and is just starting out is insulting. It can be forgiven since you've been here on the boards for 2-3 weeks only but keep it in mind.

ZacAdam said:
Tayo,

Tayo said:
Zacadam, I don't think it is as bad as you think... u are in a plateau right now. Have you gone to a doctor to check your runner's knee and shoulder socket. {I used to have problems with my knee when I was training in wing chun kung-fu but now I only do dumb bells workouts to keep fit.}

I don't know man. I am just walking a lonely road at the moment. :)

Zac

Man oh man do I feel you.

You can approach and sleep with lots of girls. But you don't want random hook-ups, you want something with meaning. That girl that is your caliber - gorgeous as f#ck, intelligent, funny and you click together like two pieces of a puzzle.

And for the provider thing - you have become the lover but as a man deep inside you feel like you should be a strong man who can take care of himself and his family. As Chase said the lover is a loser with good fundamentals and game. Most of the timed he might not be able to support even himself.


What you're talking about is the urge to be a real man, not in the meaning of sleeping with girls, but in the meaning of being stable with money and life, fighting for what you believe in, accomplishing you goals and ambitions, creating something to be remembered by. Putting your mark on the world.



And the funny thing is when you start working on being good with girls - you mostly thing about it as a goal. I just need to be good with girls and everything will be awesome. Then you get good with girls and you say to yourself "okay that's done, now what?" .



Let me ask you : what are you dreams and ambitions. I mean what do you want to accomplish in your life? Have a beautiful and amazing wife and 2-3 children? Cause I'm 21 and I can feel that yes I do want that - I don't want to be 35-40 and having one night stands. That doesn't mean that I want it now and will get married at 22. But I the end goal is amazing wife and 2-3 children.

Also in professional plan what do you dream of? Becoming really rich and running a big company? Changing the world and helping people? Accomplishing what is impossible? Becoming the greatest musician.

What drives you to more forward. What is the one thing you want more than anything that no one can stop you from wanting?


For me it's this - I realized that living in this world and this reality is pointless and without meaning - so I know that I must inspire millions and maybe billions of people to change the reality we live in. I'm working every day towards that goal and putting everything in motion. It might take 50 years to do it, I might need millions of people to join my cause - but I'll never let go of that goal. Because If I do there will be no point of living anymore.


What about you Zac? Tell me about your dreams and ambitions. What do you feel like you must accomplish as a real man. And if you don't want to write for everyone to see - send me a personal message.


X
 

trashKENNUT

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MisterX,

MisterX said:
And for the provider thing - you have become the lover but as a man deep inside you feel like you should be a strong man who can take care of himself and his family. As Chase said the lover is a loser with good fundamentals and game. Most of the timed he might not be able to support even himself.

Yea.... the thing is If you cannot handle your matters well, you might think that because you're a lover. It is actually not true. Disqualifying yourself as boyfriend material and taking care of yourself does sometimes seems blurry.

MisterX said:
What you're talking about is the urge to be a real man, not in the meaning of sleeping with girls, but in the meaning of being stable with money and life, fighting for what you believe in, accomplishing you goals and ambitions, creating something to be remembered by. Putting your mark on the world.

Exactly. But it really isn't about making my mark on the world. I feel that society is at lost, right now, and one of my favourite and non bias scientist, Gregg Braden, even noted this.

Anyway, to your question, What is my dream goal?

I wanted to be a footballer. Ronaldo of Brazil. I always wanted to be that. I first catch on football/soccer when i was 10 and since then, i love it. I love it to a point where i played, train and work towards it. I work so hard, that even when my examinations were the next day, i just didn't care. But ultimately, i fail. To me, i know i did my best. I manage to enter national competition and school team but i wasn't good enough. At the age of 22, i realize my time had past.

I don't want to talk about goals. Because i already fail them. So i have no expectations, although the existence of it. I know what i want. Let me just tell you two things that i want.

1)Own a Ferrari F430
2)Understand how women and the world really think. Have a correct mental model of how the world really works.

So yea.... I just share two of those things here. I do not want to share more, it's abit disheartening. Importantly, i realize Chase addresses something, on my inclinations revolves around curiosity. So i have to work around that. That is where i will have a good start.

Zac
 
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