A little about me: I'm using daygame and poker to get as much time under pressure as possible because I'm entering a role where negotiations will be a major aspect of my job. The products I draw heavily from are Girls Chase, Desire System by the Asian Rake, and the London Daygame Model (Krauser and Tom). The role I'm adopting is the rake or libertine. It isn't fair that society slut shames and that men go around telling everyone about their exploits.
Coffee Date
I met this girl at another coffee shop by commenting on her style. She is a Mongoloian/Russian hybrid. I love hybrids. Something I've noticed in both street stops and dates is that I don't feel authentic or present because I'm thinking about what to do or say next, so I'm just focusing on the emotion I'm trying to convey and that seems to be working pretty well. At one point she called me on my dilated and dancing pupils (which funnily enough leads to my daygame question). I answered that unlike the rest of the guys in the coffee shop I'm not ashamed of being attracted to a beautiful woman.
My Question: I baited her into asking about why I was celebrating with a friend earlier that day. The truth is the guy helped me get a job in a hot area of tech right now. I downplayed and she kept prying. I kept dodging and trying to change the subject, bc I didn't want to be bragging about the job and be placed in 'provider' land. Finally, she said that if I don't tell her, she was going to leave, so I cracked. I was vague about the opportunity but she leveraged me into giving up the goods. Should I have just come clean earlier? Most women just allow for the change of subject, I teased an embarrassing high school story. How could I reverse the pressure but not be rude? Something like, "I'm sure you have a good reason for wanting to know. I'm just curious why that is???"
Daygame
I did 10-12 sets in the shopping district of SF. I bet I walked 5 miles to today and I was a former mountain guide...I know what five miles feel like. I try to start off in the lioness' den, aka Victoria's Secret. I figure it's the old Mark Twain about eating the frog first thing in the morning. I'm at the beginning stages of daygame so I'm not screening any women other than whether I'm attracted to them. Wedding ring. Going up to her. Just trying to get to 100 opens ASAP.
Questions:
1. I opened a woman and she called me out bc she had heard me spew the same lines to another woman. How would you suggest handling this bc it caught me off guard, and I tried to stay cool but failed and bailed?
2. I was about to hop on the train after 3.5 hours of prowling around. I was tired both physically and mentally. On my way down to the train, I saw an attractive young Asian hybrid (F1 from now on??) As she started walking away, I said fuck it, even though my mojo wasn't there. I ran in front, and much to both of our surprise, it was a woman I had opened the week before. She had sunglasses on last time....this time they were off and her pupils were the size of her iris and were darting back and forth 1,000 MPH. I've never seen anything like it, and tbh if I didn't know better, I would thought there was something going on pathologically.
She was blushing and talking about how awkward this 2nd time around was, to which I agreed. I couldn't go through the normal routine so I went in for the number close by telling her that I got a feeling that she was adventurous and we need to do something new together. She said no, but didn't move. Her eyes were still going bananas. I tried to calm her down by asking her about her job, what she did that day. She asks about my job. I acknowledge how random this is and insist on a cup of coffee. Her eyes are still a freak show. She doesn't trust me and says no, but she isn't going anywhere. I do a close I learned in sales to find the objection, "If you were me and were honestly attracted to a beautiful woman, but she kept saying no, what advice would you give me to get her out on a date?" She says that just like last time, "there's no particular reason". There is, she can feel the gaminess coming out of me. I'm practically reading lines, and starting to scramble. Here is a beautiful woman, who is clearly attracted to me, but I'm exhausted and can't figure this out. She says that if we meet again a third time she'll go have a cup of coffee. Then I start to chase...and you guys know where this goes. I finally tap out and say, "fine" and with a dismissive wave of my hand. Even if there's a third time...they'll be no first time.
How do you guys handle it when you know her emotions are saying 'yes', but her head is saying 'no', besides keep your shit together and not chasing?
Coffee Date
I met this girl at another coffee shop by commenting on her style. She is a Mongoloian/Russian hybrid. I love hybrids. Something I've noticed in both street stops and dates is that I don't feel authentic or present because I'm thinking about what to do or say next, so I'm just focusing on the emotion I'm trying to convey and that seems to be working pretty well. At one point she called me on my dilated and dancing pupils (which funnily enough leads to my daygame question). I answered that unlike the rest of the guys in the coffee shop I'm not ashamed of being attracted to a beautiful woman.
My Question: I baited her into asking about why I was celebrating with a friend earlier that day. The truth is the guy helped me get a job in a hot area of tech right now. I downplayed and she kept prying. I kept dodging and trying to change the subject, bc I didn't want to be bragging about the job and be placed in 'provider' land. Finally, she said that if I don't tell her, she was going to leave, so I cracked. I was vague about the opportunity but she leveraged me into giving up the goods. Should I have just come clean earlier? Most women just allow for the change of subject, I teased an embarrassing high school story. How could I reverse the pressure but not be rude? Something like, "I'm sure you have a good reason for wanting to know. I'm just curious why that is???"
Daygame
I did 10-12 sets in the shopping district of SF. I bet I walked 5 miles to today and I was a former mountain guide...I know what five miles feel like. I try to start off in the lioness' den, aka Victoria's Secret. I figure it's the old Mark Twain about eating the frog first thing in the morning. I'm at the beginning stages of daygame so I'm not screening any women other than whether I'm attracted to them. Wedding ring. Going up to her. Just trying to get to 100 opens ASAP.
Questions:
1. I opened a woman and she called me out bc she had heard me spew the same lines to another woman. How would you suggest handling this bc it caught me off guard, and I tried to stay cool but failed and bailed?
2. I was about to hop on the train after 3.5 hours of prowling around. I was tired both physically and mentally. On my way down to the train, I saw an attractive young Asian hybrid (F1 from now on??) As she started walking away, I said fuck it, even though my mojo wasn't there. I ran in front, and much to both of our surprise, it was a woman I had opened the week before. She had sunglasses on last time....this time they were off and her pupils were the size of her iris and were darting back and forth 1,000 MPH. I've never seen anything like it, and tbh if I didn't know better, I would thought there was something going on pathologically.
She was blushing and talking about how awkward this 2nd time around was, to which I agreed. I couldn't go through the normal routine so I went in for the number close by telling her that I got a feeling that she was adventurous and we need to do something new together. She said no, but didn't move. Her eyes were still going bananas. I tried to calm her down by asking her about her job, what she did that day. She asks about my job. I acknowledge how random this is and insist on a cup of coffee. Her eyes are still a freak show. She doesn't trust me and says no, but she isn't going anywhere. I do a close I learned in sales to find the objection, "If you were me and were honestly attracted to a beautiful woman, but she kept saying no, what advice would you give me to get her out on a date?" She says that just like last time, "there's no particular reason". There is, she can feel the gaminess coming out of me. I'm practically reading lines, and starting to scramble. Here is a beautiful woman, who is clearly attracted to me, but I'm exhausted and can't figure this out. She says that if we meet again a third time she'll go have a cup of coffee. Then I start to chase...and you guys know where this goes. I finally tap out and say, "fine" and with a dismissive wave of my hand. Even if there's a third time...they'll be no first time.
How do you guys handle it when you know her emotions are saying 'yes', but her head is saying 'no', besides keep your shit together and not chasing?
