FR++ She wouldn't let me put it in

[Ross]

Ned,

Spot on yes ladder. My only question is that, while persisting for her vag, did you refer back to this ladder and/or use any other methods of motivation? Most attractive girls I run across that are virgins won't just let a guy slip it in, no matter how smooth he is with his hand motions or his tongue. Remember to continue the vocal persistence as you did for the yes ladder, that way she'll agree in her mind that it's a good idea because you've presented it as one.

At the very least, you'll find out exactly why she didn't want to sleep with you on that night (being a virgin isn't an excuse - wanting to save it for a boyfriend is) but there's almost always multiple thoughts on the subject running through her mind. One of those thoughts typically is, "I don't want to be a virgin forever, maybe I should just lose it to a cool guy..." which is something that you need to capitalize on and focus on to show her desire for having sex.

 

[Atra]

Honestly? I think you were pushing to hard. If she was a virgin, it's no wonder that she wanted to take it slow with a guy she had never met before.
You write "just cause a girl resists and rejects your efforts doesn't mean she doesn't want you and definitely doesn't mean you need to let it hit you and faze you, all you gotta do is PERSIST and ignore their objections..." and I think you are wrong here.

Here, Chase writes: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7494:
"Also, a good way to avoid raping a girl is, whenever you face any kind of resistance from her, to only persist with your escalation three times. If she still resists after your third attempt, back off totally and only have sex with her if she suddenly starts making a move.
Obviously if you get a very clear “NO” from her, then you should back off ASAP."

Since you saw here again and she let you go a step further, you probably "did" read here signals right, though, but things can have many layers, she wants to and she doesn't want to, and if you're going to be her first lover, you want it to be a goog experience for her, I guess.

PS. I'm a woman. Thought you should know.