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About me:
Age: 23 at the time of this posting (birth year = 1990)
Height: 5'7''
Weight: ~135lbs, slim/fit
Ethnicity: Korean
Started learning seduction shenanigans: August of 2013
First cold approach: 9/8/13

Reason for starting seduction shenanigans:
One of my ex-girlfriends and I were having a bad time when she blurted out "you will never find anyone like me!". I took that as a challenge. Things continued downhill with her, broke up, then discovered GC. Well, that's what made me take the initiative. The primary reason is that I was terrible with girls who weren't in my social circle. I literally didn't know how to interact with women. Furthermore, I attend a university filled with super attractive girls, and I would have lived the rest of my life with regret if I continued my college life in my room in front of a computer. There are girls who go to class in spandex volleyball shorts, jean shorts, or even a tight mini dress so short that parts of their ass cheeks just hang out, and I would be in my room jacking off. SMH...

Worst experiences with a girl (for some LULZ):
Back before my sophomore year in high school, I sat next to a very attractive would-be-junior in summer school. One day, everyone in the class paired up to do a worksheet and things turned out in a way so that she was to be my partner. After everyone around us paired up, I grabbed my balls (figuratively) and asked her if she wanted to be my partner. She smiled and said yes. I took the worksheet and held it in the air so that she could take it and write her name on it. I was SO nervous that my trembling hand shook the paper so hard that it actually made audible noise. After that, she would smile every time we made eye contact, but I never talked to her. I pretended to sleep in class everyday.

I met a super attractive half-Asian, half-white-or-something sorority girl named AM at a clubbing event her sorority threw at some bar/club in LA. One of my frat bros wingmanned for me and got AM and her friend to come back to our frat house to hang out after the event. We ate, played pool and foosball, and had a good time. I didn't talk much, but AM would often look straight into my eyes with the sexiest eyes I have ever seen, and she would hold it for as long as 5 seconds or so. I returned eye contact with "why is she looking at me like that?" or a "holy shit holy shit holy shit there it is again!" thought in my head. She was wearing only a sports bra and volleyball shorts, and holy hell did she have an amazing body to go with her killer face. Few days later, I invited AM, her friend, and the frat bro back to the house to cook dinner and bake dessert for each other and hang out. I froze HARD. I barely talked in the kitchen while cooking, barely talked while eating, and barely talked while sitting on the couches after eating. There was a total of at least 20 minutes of complete silence that night. FML. I never talked to AM or her friend again, and she stopped coming to the events we had with her sorority.
 

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My first outings with the intent to seduce these mythical creatures called "women"

Date: Sept. 6 and 7, 2013
Location: Brea Mall, South Coast Plaza, Westfield Mall somewhere in Orange County, and The Block at Orange

Opportunity 1:
An attractive blonde girl in her late 20s or so was shopping for cards at an American Greetings store. I positioned myself in the same aisle as her, about 10 feet away. I stood facing the cards, with absolutely nothing in my head. She came closer to me then stood facing the cards so that her shoulder was about 5 inches from mine. I started panicking in my head thinking "OMG OMG OMG DO SOMETHING WHAT DO I SAY OMG!". After about 10 seconds, she reached over my body's length and grabbed a card. She would've had an easier time if she went around to my other side. Another 5 seconds later, she reached over again and put the card back, then left the store.

Opportunity 2:
I was walking though the mall when I made eye contact with an attractive brunette heading my way. She wore a very slight smile, continued past me, then stopped to look at the mall directory about 30 feet behind me. I stopped and hung out by the railing for about 30 seconds thinking about how to open. I started walking towards her. 10 feet later, I walked back to the railing and tried to get rid of the approach anxiety. 10 seconds later, I started walking towards her again. 10 feet later, I turned back around and returned to the railing. I told myself, "alright, I'm just gonna go stand next to her and do nothing. See what happens". Walked about 20 feet this time, turned back around and returned to my faithful railing. Shameful thoughts ran through my head for the next 10 seconds. She walked away.

Opportunity 3:
Went to go take a poo break at Sears. Made eye contact 3 times with a busty red head employee while going in and out of the store. I pussied out. Poo smelled bad.
 

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Cold approach #1

Date: Sept. 8, 2013
Name: Vicky
Location: On the street at night near campus
Situation: She was walking home with take-out dinner
Achievement: She blushed the ENTIRE time
Lessons learned: Look at face before opening
Result: Phone number, proposed date, could've easily hooked up if I wanted to
Misc.: All she knew about me was my name, year in school, major, and phone number. That was it.

Vicky and I crossed the street together, sorta side-by-side, but we didn't look at each other. I continued walking straight after crossing the street while she made a turn and walked down the sidewalk perpendicular to mine. I turned my head and saw an amazing body--she was wearing a sky blue jean shorts and just maybe a centimeter of her ass cheeks were hanging out. Ashamed with my performance from the two days before, I just started jogging towards her. When I was approximately 5 feet from her, I called out, "excuse me". She turned around and I realized that her face was not very attractive. I debated for a moment whether I should continue or not--I lost my interest in her but this was an opportunity to practice my magic. I went with the latter and told her, "I think you're really attractive...are you single by any chance?"

She melted like butter and said yes. I walked her halfway home, about 5 minutes, while I got her to talk about what she was studying, why she was studying it, what she wanted to do, etc.

We stopped at an intersection
Me: "So, I was wondering if you were down to have lunch with me sometime so we can get to know each other better"
I opted for lunch because it was less sexual and I just wanted to practice with her. She agreed and we exchanged numbers.

She texted me the next day with something like
Her: "Instead of lunch, how about late dinner or dessert?"
I know that I shouldn't be picky and all, but she was going to end up in my bed if I agreed took her suggestion. She had an amazing body and ass, but I wasn't attracted to her face. I ignored the text and never talked to her again. Call me an asshole if you'd like.
 

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Recap of my progression through parties and other social events, Fall 2013

Week 1, part 1:
It was just our frat and our sister sorority for this party/kickback. Grabbed my balls and introduced myself to like 10 new girls, talked exclusively with a girl named AT, and talked and played pool with 5 girls. Achievement unlocked: play 2v2 pool with 3 girls (with 2 others switching in). All of my conversations were polite and largely school-based (major, why that major, what she wants to do, dreams, etc). When AT and I were talking, we were facing each other with our faces about 10 inches apart. We talked for 10+ minutes, and her eyes were sparkly/glittery.

We finally broke eye contact and looked at the rest of the crowd.
Her: "You know, you can go mingle with other girls too"
Me: "Yeah, I could go mingle"
!!!!!!!!!! I should have said something like "No...I would rather spend the night with you"
I tried to salvage the situation
Me: "...Or we could go inside and play pool"
Her: "I can't play pool."
Me: "That's fine. Come, I'll teach you"
Her: "Wanna be my beer pong partner instead?"
I'm actually allergic to beer and told her a story about how I almost died after my first-ever beer pong game. After this I noticed that her eyes were no longer sparkly/glittery. I decided to head inside anyway and met other girls to play pool with.



Week 1, part 2:
Not much change from the first party; conversations were still very polite and mundane but added more topics. Even though I don't drink when I do shenanigans, I don't remember much about this party.

I noticed a group of 3 girls standing around. One of the girls in the group, a Latina, looked very much like a model. She had the perfect slim-yet-curvy body with a very sexy cat-like face. I grabbed two other frat bros and opened them ASAP. After introductions, I immediately focused on Jocelyn, the Mexican model-looking girl. Not even 2 minutes into the conversation with her, 3 other girls who were originally part of the group returned to join while my two frat brothers disappeared.
Achievement unlocked: be the only male in a circle with 6 random girls.
Another girl in the group named Josie and I somehow got locked in a conversation. She was fairly attractive--she looked like the pornstar Vicki Chase. Soon, it was just Josie and me talking one-on-one while Jocelyn and the rest of the girls were back in their group about 5 feet away. Josie would not stop talking. For every question/statement that came out of my mouth, she talked for 3 minutes. I got to know her more than I ever wanted to. During my conversation with Josie, Jocelyn would break from her group and stand next to Josie for about a minute, lock eyes with me, then go back to her group. I could not stop Josie from talking in a polite manner. Jocelyn did this 3 times, and Josie finally noticed my eyes wandering away from hers (and into Jocelyn's), but I don't think she noticed who I was looking at because hers were fixed on mine. She stopped herself and asked me if I wanted her number.
Achievement unlocked: have a girl offer me her number.
She gave me her number and said she'd hit me up whenever she was in the area because she goes up and down SoCal from UCSB to SDSU to party. She did call me while drunk once and we exchanged a few texts, but she stopped when I asked about Jocelyn. LULZ
Clamjam/cockblock: After Josie gave me her number, she went to her group and suggested that they party hop. Fuck. So the entire group, including Jocelyn, just walked away and out of the frat house. After debating for a moment, I quickly moved myself to the front of the house, hopped down our fence-thingy, ran up to Jocelyn and asked if she was single. Unfortunately, she said had a boyfriend ;,[ I didn't know how to respond so I went back inside.



Week 2
Tried out dancefloor game. With the sorority girls I met at the first week 1 party, I did the thing where I hold out my hand, she grabs it, then I pull her in to dance together. It was just a fun dance though. I don't want to do shenanigans with girls from our sister sorority to avoid any possible drama; I don't wanna shit where I eat. I saw a decent-looking, blonde-haired Caucasian or pale-Hispanic girl dancing with her females friends. We introduced ourselves, her name was Isabel, I grabbed her hand, twirled her, did a little fun dance with our hands held, then half-twirled her into grinding. After a song or two, I played with her breasts and realized she didn't have a bra on =D . After a minute or so, she went to our bar to get water. She stood there for a good 2 minutes drinking water, so I decided to grind on one of her friends. Not even 30 seconds in, Isabel comes back, pushes her friend away, says something in her ears, then resumes grinding me. Achievement unlocked: I don't know what to call this but I was pretty exxxcited. After dancing, we met up outside and I asked if she was single. She said she had a boyfriend...what? I exited as gracefully as possible, but I should have asked where her bra was or question her in some other way. When I sat down on a bench across the front yard, I noticed Isabel and her friend talking to each other and looking at me. I'm pretty darn sure that was a test to see how aggressive I was =[ Don't remember anything else. I should've kept a better record.


Sorority clubbing thingy
Flirted heavily with a girl from our sister sorority named JH. Great reactions and all, but I didn't make any moves because she feels more like a little sister than anything. I interacted with her some more at a later party in which I got her to kiss me and told her she could use my tongue as a chaser. She texted me the following weekend saying she was bored and wanted to hang out and watch a movie. I tried to act like I didn't know what that meant.

Saw an attractive Armenian-looking girl in a minidress sitting alone at the bar with her head down.
Me: "Are you just gonna take a nap here like that?"
Her: "Hahaha...what's your name?"
Headed straight into small talk with her. Erin was her name. She was slightly intoxicated, and she was allllll smiles and giggles. I nicknamed her Giggly. I was about to start deep diving when some guy just walks in on us. He and Erin proceeded to talk to each other as if they knew each other, and she introduced us. The guy, Jon, actually turned out to be a super chill guy. The three of us began bantering, but I tried to focus my attention on Erin as much as possible. After 5 minutes or so of this unwanted threeway, I asked Erin how she knew Jon. Apparently Jon opened Erin before me, even made out with her on the dance floor, and he was momentarily on the other side of the bar trying to get himself a drink when I swooped in. Then came a short awkward silence that was broken by Erin, who excused herself to go to the bathroom. Jon happened to be from the frat next door from mine, and we talked and got close enough for him to let me go after Erin. Achievement unlocked: guy offers me the girl he was trying to get. While Jon and I were talking, Erin came out of the bathroom and went to go talk to her female friend. Then these two preppy Asian guys opened them and began talking. I sized up the two fellow Asian brethren. They were my size but less muscular, and their clothing, hair, posture, and distance from the girls advertised that they were niceguys. So I walked toward them, made eye contact with Erin, grabbed her arm, pulled her away, got up close to her so that our bodies were almost touching and spoke into her ear, "hey Giggly, you are really attractive, and I wanna know if you're single." She blushed, broke into a girly giggle, and she got weak in the knees or something because she bent down like halfway to a squat. She finally came to and told me that she was single, and we resumed bantering (didn't want to go immediately into deep diving). In the meanwhile, I got some investment out of her: I had her come out of her heels because I wanted to see how tall she was (we were same height with heels). We kept the close distance, I think I had my hand on her waist most of the time, and when she stood heel-less in front of me, we locked eyes (I tried to look sexual =p) in silence for two good seconds. I wanted to deep dive, but her friend broke us and said that she and Erin had to leave. I got Erin's number, hugged and kissed her on the cheek goodbye, and stayed back to approach more girls.

I texted Erin later that night @ ~2AM
Me: What does your schedule look like this week?
Her: I have a midterm this Thursday. This was the last event for me this week until then
Me: I see. What are your plans after midterms?
Her: I finish at 6 then I'm going out with my friends
I wanted to make something happen Thursday night because I was leaving for a retreat on Friday and wasn't going to be free until Monday.

Question: should I have persisted a third time for a date the following week? Note that this was on a Monday night at 2AM, and the earliest I could see her was in a week. At the time I didn't feel like exchanging texts and stuff, and she didn't include any smileys or hearts, so I decided to treat her texts as a polite rejection and scratch her off although she replied to my texts within 5 minutes. Let me know what you think via private message. Any and every feedback is very welcomed and appreciated, btw.

Achievement unlocked: got invited to an after party. Nothing happened except I got a number from a girl who I thought was really cool, bonded some more with a girl I knew from our sister sorority, direct-opened a very attractive girl who happened to be taken (her equally attractive friend gave me a seductive eye contact, but I felt kinda weird about going for her immediately after attempting at her friend), and tried to gather the balls to open another girl from our sister sorority who is a model for Abercrombie & Fitch or Hollister or something. I ultimately couldn't because she was at least 6' tall (my eyes were at level with her cleavage), very attractive, and was basically in a lingerie.



Halloween party
I was Tony Park (the Korean Tony Stark) for the night. I have an "arc reactor" light that attaches to a shirt. Wore a light grey shirt, dark grey blazer, with dark blue jeans and Camper's sneakers that almost looks like dress shoes (Thank you Chase for suggesting this brand in one of your articles!). The night ended up being more about LULZ; I was more of a jester that night. When people asked about the light, I told them how I was held hostage in a cave and blah blah.

I was standing outside my frat house when I saw the hottest Latina I have ever seen walking up the street, alone. This girl, Elizabeth, has the most gorgeous and seductive face I've ever seen. She was also at least 6' tall, sexy breast-length wavy black hair, barely-tan complexion, busty, and she wore a fitted leather jacket with yoga pants and black knee-high boots. ERMAHGERD. I wanted to do unspeakable things to her (I didn't realize how tall she was until we were face-to-face. Then I was like "oh shit").
Me: Good evening, where are you headed?
Her: Hi, um...I'm trying to find...
She looks around, sees our address on the frat house, looks at her phone, and reads out my frat house's address. She was one of those girls from another college trying to get into parties. We bantered a little, got a good vibe with her, and I led her into the house. She wanted to wait outside for her friend who was on her way, but I told her she can wait inside and that I would keep her company. We ended up getting split up once inside, but I didn't really mind because she was too tall for me anyway.

We ran into each other later that night
Me: How's the night going for you?
Her: You know, if you want to have sex with a girl, just tell her
Me: That's what I would tell you, but you're so damn tall!
!!!!!!!!!! I said that loudly, in a jokingly way. I should have motioned her closer to me, then whispered in her ear that I wanted to tie her up in the basement and fuck her in the ass
She just smiled and continued on with her night. Feeling a little down from that setback, I decided to do front-door security because I didn't really feel like talking at the moment. She came out to the front patio (we were separated by a railing) and met up with her female friend. Elizabeth introduced me to her friend as "my new best friend", then I went back to security and observed Elizabeth get approached by multiple tryhards and "alpha" males (by 5 of them at the same time at one point) who were all running on liquid confidence. Elizabeth would greet them warmly, then her body language would turn cold within 2 minutes. She would then turn around and either give me a smile, roll her eyes, or give me a "ugh, lame" look. Achievement unlocked: friendzoned by one of the hottest girls I have ever met? It was something, hahaha. If it was me of 2-3 months prior, I wouldn't even have been able to make eye contact with her.



Second-to-last party

Last party of the quarter

Lessons learned


Will update later
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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Recap of my progression through parties and other social events, Fall 2013, continued

Halloween party edit
Saw an attractive Latina with the largest ass I would go for. She was wearing a Playboy-style one-piece where the rear part is like a Brazilian-cut bottom. I was passing by when I opened her by saying "you have one of the most amazing bodies I have ever seen". She giggled with her female friend, so I turned back around to talk to them. Not even a minute later, I noticed that they didn't seem very interested. I asked if either of them were single, and they turned out to be a bi-sexual/lesbian couple. We had some small talk, covering mostly general mundane stuff and dildos. I stayed with them longer than I should have.



Second-to-last party
The only thing I remember about this party is talking to a decent-looking blonde sorority girl from another college. I decided to be a little sexual, and regurgitated something I read on GC.
Her: The midterm was soooo hard!
Me: So are you saying you don't like it hard?
It went right over her head, and we continued talking about mundane things. I think it didn't work because I initially set up a polite frame and we had a boring, standard conversation up to that point. Maaaybe this could have changed things, I don't know. I think she finally got it a few minutes later, there was a short awkward silence, and she excused herself and disappeared with her friends.



Last party of the quarter
I decided to play some games because I got a little brainwashed by YouTube videos, namely those of RSD's Owen/Tyler, SimplePickup, and Vitaly.

A girl I met earlier in the night kept calling me by the wrong name, so I did this thing where I give her 3 chances to get my name right or she owes me a kiss. She did get my name right within 3 tries, but I acted like she was wrong and got a kiss. A friendly-looking guy she was with at the time looked a little sad. Achievement unlocked: get a kiss from a girl who was with a guy whose probably trying to get at her. I didn't pursue her further because she wasn't my type.

A very pretty half-Asian, half-Norwegian girl was trying to climb over the railing from the main entrance to the front patio. I stopped her saying she needs to get in through the main entrance. She begged and I told her I'd let her and her male friend inside if she gave me a kiss. The two climbed over, she gave me a kiss on the cheek. I told her my other cheek wanted a kiss too, and as she was leaning in I turned my head and her kiss landed on my lips. She took a step back, laughed, then came back in for another kiss on the lips. I have no fucking clue why I let her go.

Decided to open two good-looking blondes who were just standing around. They asked me what I studied and I told them to guess. If they guessed correctly within 3 tries, they got to spank my magnificent ass; if they guessed incorrectly, they owed me a kiss. They laughed, commented on the slickness, and said they would be up for it if they didn't have boyfriends. I lingered around to banter but ultimately ended up in awkward silence because I didn't know WTH I was doing with them. I drifted away when they got distracted.



Sutra Club, Nov. 30, 2013
Holy shit were there a lot of creepers. A lot of guys either had a very serious look or a fearful look on their face. They just stood in place and did nothing but check girls out and sip their drinks. I tried to walk around with sexy eyes and slight smirk as much as possible. I didn't get any opportunities that I was comfortable with, so I ended up not approaching any girls. There were 2 sets of 3 girls I could have opened, but they weren't my type. This was my first club experience, and I learned how bad it looks to wear a serious and fearful expression.

I went to one of the bars there early in the night to get my friend a drink as a repayment for driving + gas. The barmaid was hella gorgeous. She was probably around 30 and wore a lot of makeup, but her face was hot nonetheless. Her body was slim and hella stunning--busty with the perfect ass with slim-yet-toned legs that said "I squat". She caught me staring at her ass as she was making my drink.
Her: I know. I'm probably gonna get in trouble for wearing yoga pants to work. Ugh, they hate me
Me: Trouble? They should give you a raise, you look amazing!
Her: Hahaha thank you! (handing me my drink)
I should have continued the conversation, but I was in a "get this drink to my friend and go approach club girls" mindset. Without even thinking, I simply paid and walked away =[

After the club, my friend and I stopped by a McDonald's to eat. I will save the details for cold approach post #12



Lessons learned
I need to make sure I'm smiling and making eye contact with the correct expression/vibe. Often times when I approach, I don't even know if I'm smiling or not. Often times during interaction, I don't even know if I was looking into her eyes--I feel like I may have these "zoned-out" eyes where they're blankly pointed toward the girls' eyes.

I likely don't look fearful, but I'm pretty sure I have a somewhat serious expression/vibe when I approach girls because this is still new to me. I need to treat approaching as a casual thing and enjoy the moment, rather than it being some complex procedure.

I need to come up with some more interesting and deep-divable topics to converse about.

I need to set a sexual frame, or at least one that is not too friendly/polite, from the start.

I need to test/challenge girls. When Isabel told me she was taken even though she let me fondle her breasts, I should have persisted.

If the girl responds well, I should probably continue to talk to her even if she's taller than me or not my type. This way I avoid being a spectator and get some social proof/preselection?

I should not pull any stupid/corny/YouTube-y/scripted games and gimmicks. Maybe I will do it from time to time at parties when I just want to enjoy myself, but this will definitely not be a go-to type of thing for getting women.

I should exit gracefully as early as possible if the girl has a boyfriend for sure, or if she's not interested. Lingering around and having small talk with no clear motivation is quite awkward.
 

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Cold approach #2

Date: Oct. 11, 2013
Name: Melissa
Location: On the streets near campus on the night of the week 2 party
Situation: She was walking home after partying with a female friend, NG
Achievement: Fended off 6 hecklers, held hands within 5-10 minutes of meeting her, was pretty physical
Lessons learned: Always go for the sex close (or at least attempt to), be more sexual, stay ballsy if the first impression was ballsy, there are no second chances, don't create a boyfriendy frame, must be unfazed when hecklers heckle regardless of their number and physical size
Result: Instant date, number, perhaps could have hooked up
Misc.: I was very proud, and disappointed at the same time, of myself for a full week after this

My friends Ray, Eric, and I decided to roam the streets for some night game after partying a little. We were standing around on the sidewalk for a second for some reason, Melissa and NG walked past us and stopped about 20 feet away, and I turned to look and saw how gorgeous both of them were. Melissa was one of those girls who was pretty/gorgeous but could put on an sexy/hot persona if she wanted to. I ran up to them without hesitating and told them how attractive they were and asked if they were single. Initially they were both speechless and giggling, then NG told me they were both single. We small talked for a little bit, found out what they've been up to that day, and that they were heading home to eat and sleep. Also found out Melissa was Mexican, so I asked her if she wanted to eat with me sometime in Spanish. She laughed and said "sure" and was about to give me her number when my friend Ray said, "why not now? You two were gonna eat anyway, so might as well eat with us". My plan for the night was to roam around collecting numbers, but an instant date didn't seem like a bad idea either. Melissa and NG looked at each other for a moment, smiled, and agreed.

We took a few steps when some tall skinny white boy dressed like a 90's Eminem in XL white clothes and beanie stopped me
Eminem: Heeey, you're Steven right? (not my real name) What's up man? We met at one of our parties! (NOPE) Hey! How are you? (turning to Melissa) My name is Eminem, what's your name?

Then 5 other guys showed up out of nowhere from all directions and surrounded us. 2 of them were huge Samoan or black guys, and the other 2 were white or pale Hispanics. Eminem then turned to NG and introduced himself and another guy also began talking to NG. The other white/Hispanic guy came up from behind us and introduced himself to Melissa. So now Melissa and NG's backs were turned toward me and Ray and Eric were down the sidewalk about 5 feet away (WHAT THE FUCK GUYS?). Ray, Eric, the two big dudes, and I were sober while the other 3 hecklers seemed to be intoxicated with something.

The guy who opened Melissa
Rapper: Hey, so I'm actually a rapper and these two are my security (pointing at the two big dudes). You're so beautiful you should be on stage with me.
LOL that was so lame...Melissa was just like "oh, cool..."

The guy who opened NG turned to me to introduce himself.
Fucker: Hey bro, I'm Fucker, nice to meet you (shaking hands)
Me: Hey Fucker, it was nice meeting you. Come on, Melissa, let's go
Melissa was listening to the rapper, who was going on and on about how he makes music and shit, so she didn't do anything except throw me a quick glance. She looked a little confused. Eminem was talking to NG about how he's from the L.A.M.E fraternity and how his frat throws parties from SD to LA to SB. The ENTIRE time, the only thing Eminem was talking about were parties, and he was trying to get NG and Melissa to come party with him and the boyz. I looked at Ray and Eric, who were still down the sidewalk just standing around, and I knew there was no way I was gonna let these fuckers take Melissa and NG. They were just creepy as fuck.

Melissa's back was facing me at an angle, so I just reached over, put my arm around her waist, and pulled her towards me
Me: Come on, I'm hungry. Let's go
She was either listening to the rapper talk or she may have been in mid-speech, so her body just stopped after taking a step toward me (she wasn't expecting to be physically moved, so her body just automatically stopped itself once I pulled on her). My hand slipped away from her waist and fell to my side. At this point, Melissa and I were standing side-by-side so our hands ended up touching each other. Instantly, we held each others' hands at the same time. We looked at each other and both smiled. She looked assured. Fucker saw that we were holding hands.
Fucker: Yo bro, is she your girl?
Me: Yeah
Rapper: Hey, is he your boyfriend?
Melissa: Haha, yeah
I took a few steps away and Melissa followed, hand in hand.
Me: Come on NG, let's go eat
Eminem: Where are you gonna go eat? It's cold, we got a van over there (CREEPY AS FUCK!)
Me: Down the street. We have a car too (we were across the street from my frat house). Come on NG, let's go
So we finally headed off to Ray's car, and I started driving to a Denny's nearby. I never drove his car before, so I drove a little awkwardly
Ray: Stop being an Asian driver (girls chuckle)
Me: My bad, I'm not used to your car. I only drive Ferraris
Melissa: Ooh, really?
Me: Yeah, I'm a professional race car driver
Melissa: I like the sound of that (in a sexy, low voice)
Ray: Haha, oh really?
Me: Yee, in Gran Turismo
Melissa: Huh?
Me: PS3?
Melissa: Uhh..
!!!!!!!!!! Holy fucking shit, why the hell did I say that? I could've at least said "Yeah, I like to live dangerously" or "Yeah, I like to live my life on the fast lane" (we were driving a Toyota Rav4 25mph through a residential street)...

We got to Denny's and I only ordered a hot chocolate because I didn't want to have sex on a full stomach (I considered a sex close a reasonable possibility). Melissa actually didn't order any food either...hmm :p. NG, Ray, and Eric ordered food and ate, while Melissa and I spent the entire time talking. She spent about 75-80% of the time talking while my talking time was used for asking questions, making statements, or replying. Because all of my interactions with girls prior to Melissa were very mundane, I tried to talk about other topics such as her family, aspirations, and I forgot what else. I also realized from previous interactions that I haven't complimented or qualified, so I also complimented, screened, and qualified Melissa.

Somewhere in the middle of the interaction, we were talking about roller coasters
Melissa: OMG, I can't ride roller coasters; they're scary
Me: Do you get scared easily?
Melissa: Kinda
Me: BAAAAH! (I screamed :p)
She jumped a little and froze. I used this opportunity to give her a hug and keep my arm around her (we were sitting next to each other). I kept my arm around her for the rest of the night and played with her hair on and off. She remained sitting upright though. I would have preferred that she leaned into me. We sat so that our sides and legs were touching, and she was exactly my height, so maybe it would've been a little physically awkward for her to put her head on my shoulder or something. The rest of the conversation was great--no awkward silences or anything--but it didn't feel like there was any sexual tension.

We left Denny's and got back into Ray's car. He drove this time while I sat in the back with Melissa.
Melissa: So, where are we going now?
Me: Where to you live?
!!!!!!!!!! HOLY FUCKING SHIT! I hated myself for an entire week for fucking up here. It's past 4AM and a girl asks you where you're taking her next, instead of asking you to take her home. I actually had my wallet stolen earlier that night (it may have been misplaced in my room, and Melissa knew about this), so I could've asked her "hey, can you come help me look for my wallet?" or SOMETHING. ANYTHING other than "where do you live?". There was an awkward silence. I considered salvaging the situation, but I was physically tired and mentally tired at the thought of having to replace my credit cards and all. So I broke the silence with some mundane talk. As we were dropping them off, Melissa turned to kiss me on the cheek. I pulled her back afterward for a few kisses on the lips. No tongue. I texted her the next day but no reply. I tried to add her on Facebook, but she deleted my request. Game over.
 

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Thoughts

Wow, maintaining a journal is turning out to be more helpful than I initially thought. Reading through the posts above, I'm seeing points of improvement that I haven't spotted before.

I'm gonna have to update this on the day of the approach to capture as much detail as possible and to maximize analysis.
 

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Cold approach #3

Date: Oct. 25, 2013
Name: Did not ask
Location: On the streets at night near campus after Halloween party
Situation: I was on the on the other side of the street heading to Denny's with my frat bros
Result: Nothing/rejection

My frat bros and I decided to head to Denny's after our Halloween party. On the way, I noticed 3 girls--a decent-looking girl (DG) and two unattractive girls (UG)--on the other side of the street who were also dressed up. I yelled out "I like your dress!" and they stopped walking to look at us. I took that as an approach invitation and ran across the street.
Me: Good evening (pause and look at everyone in the eye). How was your night? (I naturally talk slowly and have a low tone, and I'm sure I was smiling--while running across the street I was thinking, "hehehe I'm running across the street for some pussaaay")
Girls: ...Good hahaha
Me: Oh yeah? What are you ladies up to? (My first time saying "ladies" instead of "guys" =D)
Girls: Umm...I don't know? Going home..? Haha
Me: Well, my friends and I are heading to Denny's to eat. I was wondering if you'd like to join us

They looked at each other for a moment. The UGs were excited and the DG wore a slight smile
DG: I have a midterm coming up so I need to go sleep
Me: I see...are you hungry though?
DG: A little bit, but I should go to bed

The two UGs then tried to talk DG into going. The two UGs wanted to come, and they would have, but I didn't want to have just them two come; it was gonna be either all 3 or none. I wanted the DG
UG: Well, I guess us two can join you then
Me: ...I'm not sure it's a good idea to let your friend walk home alone this late at night dressed like that haha

The three looked at each other, discussed a little, then decided that they would all go home
Me: (To DG) before you take off, I just want to tell you that I think you're pretty pretty, and I want to know if you're single by any chance
DG: I'm sorry, I actually have a boyfriend. Thank you for the offer though
Me: Aww, alrighty then. Take care, ladies

Achievement: Ran across the street to open three girls alone
Lessons learned: When approaching a group of girls, I may even have to consider all of the girls in the group because they may be attracted
Misc.: I'm pretty sure it wasn't a false-boyfriend test because DG looked pretty tired


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Cold approach #4

Date: Nov. 13, 2013
Name: Forgot
Location: On campus at dusk
Situation: Described below
Result: Rejection

Two of my frat bros and I were heading back to the house when a blonde girl in spandex shorts that JUST covered her ass walked out of a building and began walking in front of us. She was about 2 inches shorter than me and had one hell of a body. Dirty thoughts ran rampant in my mind. She was walking slightly slower than us, so we caught up to her after about a minute or two of walking (a very viewtastic two minutes). We were walking side-by-side, and the only thing that occupied my head was "DO SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING NOW NOW NOW!". Luckily, she kept walking by my side for a full minute rather than keeping her original pace and falling behind. My frat bros and I were talking about a couple of sorority girls we met earlier that evening, so I think she wanted to eavesdrop.

I couldn't think of how to open in this situation; we've been walking side-by-side for a minute, so a direct opener would've felt a little weird. I thought maybe I could get her to join our conversation, but the fact is, my mind was saying "DO SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING NOW NOW NOW!" for the past minute, so I lost track of the conversation. So I decided to be bold. I thought, "hey, she has a super bangable body, so why don't I experiment and open a cold approach with a body compliment?"
Me: Hey, excuse me (she turned her head to me)
Me: You have a really nice body (I tried to have sexy eyes and smile, but I have no clue what I looked like because I was a little nervous. I might have looked like this)
Her: (She was a little surprised) Uhhahah (one of those really fast, quick laughs), thank you
Me: Are you single by any chance?
Her: ...Kinda (she restrained a smile)
Me: Kinda? It's a yes or no question
!!!!!!!!!! I definitely had sexy eyes and smile for that line, but that was a terribly terrible line. I should've said something like "I'll take that as a yes"
Her: (After a second of silence) Umm...no

I realized I fucked up, so I exited that "conversation thread" by saying "aww..that's pretty heartbreaking" (with a smile) and asked her what sports she did because she was wearing the official athletic wear. She ran short to mid distance and hurdles for our track team. However, instead of telling me that she did "short to mid distance and hurdles", she actually listed all the events (like 6 or 7) that she ran. I tried to build some connection and told her I used to run track and cross country in high school.

I asked her what her PR (personal record) was for the 800m.
Her: Umm, it's x:xx, but yeah, it's slow because it's not my main event. I just run it from time to time just because. I primarily run the A, B, C...

I was expecting a short answer, like "it's x:xx", but she gave a really elaborate reply. I'm pretty sure this was a case of a girl qualifying herself to you. Then I asked her what she was up to, and she told me that she was heading to the gym. I couldn't think of anything to say, so I told her I should go catch up to my frat bros, wished her luck in track, and bounced out. I probably could have salvaged the situation, but I couldn't think of a way to.

Achievement: Opened with body compliment and didn't get kicked in the nuts or expelled for sexual harassment
Lessons learned: Maintain eye contact, don't come off too strong--be leisurely and give her a chance to mentally prepare herself, "maybe/kinda single" means single
Misc.: None
 

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Cold approach #4 edit

ARGH, I should have asked what she does other than running, what she would like to do if she didn't have to worry about school and money and had a ton of free time...
 

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Cold (semi-cold) approach #5

The reason why I call this a semi-cold approach is the girl is friends with two of my frat brothers' girlfriends, and she was sitting on our frat house's front porch waiting for the two girls.

Date: Nov. 13, 2013
Name: Hannah
Location and situation: Described above
Result: Great conversation, albeit non-sexual, and rejected

As I was walking up the stairs to my frat house's front door, a super attractive dirty-blonde-haired girl came into view. I greeted her with a "hi" as our eyes met and walked inside to laugh and talk about how I failed with the track girl (approach #4). After a few minutes, a couple of my frat bros and I headed out to go grocery shopping, and I noticed that the girl was still sitting there. I decided to open.

Me: Hey, how's it going? (smiling--I had social momentum from the track girl and talking to the frat bros)
Her: Good, you?
Me: Great. Are you waiting for someone?
Her: Yeah, I'm waiting for MS and KC to return this keyboard
Me: Ah, I see. Have you been able to contact them , or ... (deliberate pause)
Her: Yeah, I called them about half an hour ago. They're on their way.
Me: You know you could have left it with one of us; you didn't have to wait.
Her: Yeah, oh well. I waited all this time so might as well wait a few more minutes and see them. I haven't seen them since we graduated. What's your name?
Me: fsc_la, what's your's?
Her: Hannah, nice to meet you (she gets off the chair to shake hands, and my oh my does she have a fit, busty body)
Her: You're the first one the say hi to me tonight (sitting back down)
Me: Huh?
Her: I've been sitting here for half an hour, and your bros would walk in and out and not even look at me. I was like "do I even exist?"
(I didn't know what to say so I just smiled and shrugged my shoulders)
Her: You have balls
Me: Thank you (locked eyes with her for a second, smiling) So do you play music or what? (pointing at the keyboard with my chin)

We bantered for about 15 minutes, with some moderate deep diving here and there. Found out she is from Baltimore, just graduated with a degree in Theater/acting along with MS and KC (Hannah looks like she belongs in a movie, and KC is already an actress), and more but I forgot what. Moderately deep dived about Baltimore, should have deep dived about her studies (or maybe not because she probably got that a ton of times). The conversation flow was smooth and had no awkward silences. I believe I made decent eye contact; I had my eyes on hers pretty much the entire time, but from time to time I feel like I may have had those zoned-out eyes that were pointed toward her. We were both smiling for much of the conversation. At one point, we were talking about how we should roofie people, cut up their bodies, and sell their organs. I tried to be inclusive and suggested that we start an underground business doing that. I felt like we clicked really well. She was a great conversationalist. She was also really chill and actually cussed as she talked. My novice-level qualifying:

Her: Blah blah fucking blah and shit (she was pretty animated about something)
Me: Hahaha, I like how you cuss.
Her: Sorry. I should be more ladylike and watch my words (sarcastically, rolling her eyes).
Me: No, no, no. Please, I like the way you are; you're super bad ass.

She smiled and resumed bantering. We were on a high note when I noticed MS and KC at the bottom of the stairs.

Me: Well, MS and KC are here
Her: They are?
Me: Yeah...before I leave you to them, are you single? (sexy eyes and smile)
Her: Yes (big smile)
Me: Perfect (legitimately happy-as-fuck smile--sorry, I couldn't contain myself for a sexy smile)
Her: Wait...NO NO NO NO NO NO, I'M NOT! HAHAHAHA! I heard your question wrong, I meant "yes, I have a boyfriend" HAHAHA! FUCK!

I wasn't even that disappointed. I'm not sure if it's because the abundance mentality is starting to click, or if it's because I was super happy with the fact that I opened such an attractive girl and had so much fun talking to her.

She followed that last line above with
Her: Hey, you have balls though, and you're good-looking. Just keep talking to girls, and you'll find someone.
Me: Haha thanks. It was nice meeting you.

We did the slap-hands-then-fist-bump thing. She was super chill. Definitely girlfriend material for me. I complimented her dress and bounced out.

Achievement: Got applauded for having the balls to talk to her when other frat bros acted like she wasn't there, this was the most fun conversation I've ever had in my life with a female
Lessons learned: If you see an attractive girl who's been sitting by herself for a while, save and make her day by opening
Misc.: I think all she knew about me was my name
 

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You've got a good handle on your technique so far.. ticking the right boxes as you go about your interactions. Yes you are right in that there's a bit of abundance happening with you bro, you've wont have that regular guy "OMIGOD, where am I gonna find such a special girl like her" problem :)

btw, your very direct style is quite inspiring :)
 

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Revising the format/content of my journal

For my journal I originally thought about recording, in as much detail as possible, all meaningful interactions I've had with girls. By "meaningful interactions" I mean cold approaches and anything other than passive conversation with girls that I thought I learned valuable lessons from and/or thought the dialogue or action was great. Such interactions would have included most rejections and screw ups (because you learn a lot from them, in the beginning at least), and all field and lay reports.

I've realized this was too much work. My field and lay reports here will still contain as much detail as possible, but I've probably been putting too much energy into my screw ups. My non-field and non-lay reports (rejections and screw ups) will contain just the lessons learned, and maybe the dialogue and/or actions if I feel like it's awesome and emulatable by others.
 

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Report of cold approaches from Nov. 16, 2013 through Dec. 28, 2013

Achievements:
- Had my first "employee opener", in which I opened a girl working behind a cash register, on 11/16.
- Had my first "seated opener", in which I opened a girl sitting alone at a gas station at night on 11/16.
- The "seated opener" girl said she had a boyfriend, but she offered me her single friends who were on their way to meet her.
- Had another seated opener in which I just sat down right next to her so that our arms were touching.
- Had sex with a girl within 15-20 minutes of meeting her. She was also someone else's date for a Thanksgiving party. She threw a lot of blunt tests, and I survived.
- Joined a pair of girls at McDonald's and ate with them on 12/1.
- Consciously made sure to smile and make good eye contact on 12/28. Girl was all smiling and couldn't really sit still--she was shifting about in little amounts.

Lessons learned:
- Be comfortable and casual as if approaching is something that you just simply do. Don't overthink seduction; don't see it as some complicated procedure. It's something that you do when you see an attractive girl, just like screaming is what you do when you see a bigass fucking spider on the column of your bunk bed waiting for you to fall asleep so it can lay its eggs inside your ears.
- Use pauses and build tension talk slower.
- Look at women like sex objects. I believe (and I am told from time to time) that my neutral expression is serious and/or scary.
- Solidify phone number exchange. Don't give her your number; get hers. If giving out your number to the girl, have her text you her name.
- If a girl responds to "are you single?" with "I'm seeing somebody", then ask how serious it is.
- Being momentarily interrupted/cockblocked doesn't mean it's over. Remain calm and unfazed, and resume with charm.
- Use more situational or genuine compliment openers. I feel like "are you single?" openers are a hit-or-miss kind of a thing where she will say she's taken if you are off on your fundamentals or she's startled. On the other hand, the girls who respond well to this are pretty DTF given that you don't screw up. Starting "slower" with situational or genuine compliment or other less-direct openers give her a chance to relax and realize that you're a normal person and not some rapist or some cold womanizer who views her as just another number/pussy. I'll be using direct if I can't come up with a situational or a genuine compliment.
- Have graceful exits. Who knows, maybe you'll run into her again when she's single and she may remember you. She won't give you another chance if you just stormed off upon rejection the first time she met you.
- Smile and make good eye contact.
- If the girl is wearing earphones, get her to remove them somehow before you start talking to her, so you don't have to repeat yourself like a retard.
- Tired Asian girls who are sobering up are probably the worst conversationalists.
 

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Two lessons I learned on Dec. 23, 2013 that I forgot to include in the update above:

- Don't wait around for the "best" moment. You can hesitate, but never sit in the background waiting for some optimal moment to make an approach or whatever.
- Always keep the end goal in mind, whether it's a same-day lay, an instant date, a number, or just her name. Always be "in the game" for all women you find attractive. Don't focus on one girl.

Concrete example:
As I walked by a Bebe store inside a mall, I noticed a very attractive blonde in a thigh-length, tight dress standing in the center-front of the store. It seemed like she was the greeter. We made very brief eye contact, and I just kept walking. She was to be my first approach of the day, so I had a little bit of approach anxiety. Literally, her being the first approach of the day (actually in 27 days--I was sick and had finals for school) was the reason behind the approach anxiety. My mind was just like "okay, let's build some social momentum and come back to this store". I could have just walked into the store and I wouldn't have choked or anything, but I decided to wait around for a better moment.

Well, I didn't literally wait around because I walked into an adjacent store that had two very attractive black-haired white employees. Both were about 2 inches shorter than me and had those slim faces and slim-yet-decently-endowed bodies. I just asked about some products which I ultimately purchased as Christmas presents. I should've asked some personal questions like, "Do you use these products?" or "What do you think about them?", etc and maybe deep dive a little bit from there.

As I was making the purchase
Her: We only have medium-sized bags. Is that okay?
Me: It's fine. Actually, give me the biggest bag you have (I was buying two hand-sized body wash and face wash products)
She laughed and gave me a bag with a base/bottom area large enough to fit 12 of the products. I should have asked if she was single at this point, but I didn't. My head was programmed to think "this store's employees are for practice to get my social momentum rolling", and I just walked out on two VERY attractive girls. I am not a very smart robot.

So I walked back to the Bebe store and noticed that the blonde greeter has been replaced by some dude. The blonde was in the back of the store manning the cash register. I didn't see an easy/effortless way to get to her, so I decided to head back to that adjacent store. I looked inside through their front window from far away and saw that both of the black-haired white girls were occupied with a customer. So I decided to wait until 2 customers (an arbitrary number) walked out of the store. When 2 customers, a couple, finally walked out, I couldn't get myself to go back in because I felt awkward about returning to the store; I had psyched myself out. About 5 minutes later, I grabbed my balls and walked back in. I actually had one of the products in my hand. My plan was to go to one of them, whoever was free, and be like "Excuse me, I have one more question. (Holding up the product) I was wondering if you're single". Then I basically got "indirectly cockblocked" by a customer and I was left hanging, so I bounced. It was rather funny, actually.
 

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Dec. 29, 2013 - Mall game

Result:
2 approaches, both rejection by way of "I have a boyfriend".
0 pussy-outs
1 change-mind because of language barrier

New stuff I tried:
Tried opening a little slow by bantering first. She was seeing someone, and when I asked if it was serious she said yeah. I bounced out gracefully.

Lessons learned:
Get to the point and don't drag shit out. I approached a beauty product employee asking about acne treatment stuff. Bantered a little bit while she was applying the product on my face as a demo. I should have gotten to the point by being like "I'm actually more interested in you than these (products). Are you single by any chance?". Instead I wasted about 20 minutes of my time and hers just sitting there getting a facial and bantering. I didn't escalate because of language barrier.

My level in the seduction arts:
I think it's safe to say that 95% of my approach anxiety is gone. I barely hesitated to go up and talk to the 3 girls today.
 

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Thoughts after some brief interactions with some girls today

I also got my first blonde girl's number today. Yay!
However, I'm not counting her because I got it with the purpose of her being my project partner; it wasn't a number closer after proposing a date or anything like that. I never stated romantic/sexual interest or asked if she was single. Actually, I don't even have any attraction for her despite her being pretty cute. I did it because I wanted a female partner for class projects, and I wanted to break a classmate's heart. I know, I can be an evil son of a bitch sometimes.

Basically, there is one of those kids in my class who likes to answer all the questions. He literally raised his hand for every question my professor asked. It was the first day of class and my professor already began ignoring the kid's raised hand, occasionally. In two instances, the guy would respond with something that was over and beyond the scope of the question or the course, then he would turn around (his head 90 degrees and body about 15 degrees) and glance at the girl. He didn't make direct eye contact, but he was pretty much checking her to make sure her head was facing toward his general area; it was very obvious that he was checking to make sure that she heard his amazing answer. He also had a couldn't-contain grin on his face with an expression that clearly said "yup, I'm this smart". After the second time, I told myself I'm gonna go make her my project partner. So I did. Just walked up to her at the end of the class and did it. Very little approach anxiety and very straightforward. I'll have to build some more connection with her to truly make her my partner because she has friends in the class who she's considering partnering up with, but even collaboration will be cool. I just want to see the guy's expression when he turns around to see her sitting next to me.

I am an evil piece of shit. I'm not sure how I feel. I feel pretty bad now, but it was very fun to do at the time. Right now I'm like 70% feeling bad and 30% feeling like a badass.

Chase did say a lot of guys tend to go from "nice guy" to "asshole" before arriving at "genuine man". I've definitely left the "nice guy" stage, but I'm definitely not a full "genuine man" either.

Soon, I shall be.
 

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Deep diving and sexual framing put into one

I'm sorry about cross-posting, but this journal will continue to be updated while the original thread may be lost with time.

fsc said:
Both are really cool for deep diving, and it has inspired me to come up with something: what if you want to use this type of "game" to set a sexual frame?

It's a modification to the Cube game. The point of the game is to turn her responses into sexual interpretations. Modify this however you want.

1. Tell her to imagine herself in a cool, beautiful desert, where it's just soft golden sand and clear blue sky as far as her eyes can see.
For some reason, this feels like the best setting for this. I thought about a more sensual place like a beach, but that makes me think about the waves, the sharp shells in the sand, the smell, etc. Make sure you at least insert the word "beautiful" in there so she doesn't get all depressed visualizing a barren desert with a skeleton of a cow or something on the cracked ground.

2. It's the same thing as the original Cube game, but remove the storm and the flower(s). Instead:

3. Tell her that there is white fluid inside the cube. Tell her to visualize how much of the cube is filled with it.

4. Explain the cube, the ladder, and the horse as in the original game.

5. Interpret the white fluid in a sexual way. Ask her how much white fluid is inside.
- If she says there is a lot, then tell her the white liquid represents her sexuality. Having a lot of it means that she is a sexual being who enjoys sex, thinks quite often about sex, and probably even enjoys kinky sex. More white fluid means the more she enjoys sex and the kinkier she enjoys it.
- If she says there isn't much, then tell her the white liquid represents her innocence and purity. It means that she is growing out of the innocent "Disney princess" or "daddy's little girl" image and becoming a mature, sexual being who enjoys sex, thinks quite often about sex, and probably even enjoys kinky sex. Less white fluid means that more of her innocence and purity are gone, and the more she enjoys sex and the kinkier she enjoys it.

Have fun =p
 

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I think you've made some great progress. You still have a bit of work to do on social calibration (you lost Melissa because of this). Your approaches seem forced sometimes. But I think you're doing really well so far and there's a ton of improvement. I think the biggest problems you have right now are good ones. What I mean by this is you weed out girls too easily. There's one thing about them that you don't like and you shut down. This is about getting experience! You're not going to regret having sex most of the time. I also struggle with this.

The second thing is you give up too easily. Things go wrong in seduction. You have to work to overcome these things but a little perseverance goes a long way. Don't push too hard, but don't give up as soon as things get rough.

This is a great start! Looking forward to seeing more from you.
 

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Hesitation

Don't do it. Take the first opportunity because you may not get a second chance.

Hesitation scenario 1: Blonde at work
The campus computer store that I work at has two locations: a main store and a small secondary store that is more like a small section of the med school store. There's a blonde girl at the med school store who seems interested in me, and I find her quite attractive. I haven't had a good chance to approach her because I was still at the very early stages of my seduction shenanigans, I didn't want to screw up with a coworker because I sorta feared negative repercussions, and she was usually busy. Three days ago, I had an opportunity to approach as I finished my shift and was about to head off to class. I had gotten rid of most of my approach anxiety, I'm quitting after next week, and she was by herself on a different cash register. She was free, and she was straight up looking at me for who knows how long. I just looked up and realized she was looking at me. We locked eyes for about 2-3 seconds, then I just left the store. The last time she and I were scheduled to work overlapping hours was probably 2 months ago. It is very unlikely that I will be scheduled to work at the secondary store next week (my last week working) AND as the same time as her. I have the abundance mentality, so I don't mind if I never see her again, but it would have been very nice to see how far I could have gotten with her. Shouldadunnit.

Hesitation scenario 2: Blonde in class
Attractive blonde girl in my computer science class...this is hella rare. I had a good opportunity to approach her after class three days ago, but I didn't because I was talking to my roommate. By the time I was ready to approach, she was 30-50 meters away. I didn't approach her because I felt weird about running up to her. Yesterday, some other dude approached her during break and got her number. Much kudos to him. I guess I'm not the only hunter in the computer science department. Shouldadunnit.

Hesitation scenario 3: Black-haired European
Similar story to the girl in scenario 1, except this girl works at the campus market. As she was processing my purchase, I made small talk with her. She was smiling and seemed a little shy-ish. I guess not many people go beyond the typical "hey, how are you?" stage. I left after she rang up my purchase. As I was about to leave the building, I decided to ask her out. When I went back to the registers, however, she was gone. I returned to the market two days ago and yesterday, but she was nowhere to be found. I found out during our small talk that she doesn't have any classes on Tuesdays and Fridays, so maybe she'll be working those days next week. Shouldadunnit/willdoit.

Hesitation scenario 4: Dirty blonde in class
This is in a management for engineers class open to all engineering majors, so there are more females in here (RELATIVELY...it's still like a 15:1 guy:girl ratio). We locked eyes when I first stepped into the lecture hall on Tuesday, as the entrance is at the front of the class. I walked in with a friend, so I ended up sitting with him. She seemed bored, anxious, and definitely lonely. She occasionally looked around and frequently played with her hair and nails. She also looked in my direction twice or so. We made eye contact again while we were walking out of class after it ended. I was standing outside when we made eye contact again as she headed to the restroom. I stayed behind so I could approach her. Made yet another eye contact with her as she walked out of the restroom and she started walking off. I tailed after her. I should have jogged after her to close the distance faster, but I didn't. When I was almost close enough to call out "excuse me", she called someone and began talking on the phone. Made eye contact with her again yesterday as I walked into class, but both seats to her left and right were taken. Made eye contact again while I was sitting in class and again after class. Will get to class a little earlier next Tuesday and sit next to her. Shouldadunnit/willdoit.

Win scenario 1: Blonde in class
There is another attractive blonde in a different computer science class. She's the blonde in the "Thoughts after some brief interactions with some girls today" post above. She's the girl whose number I got, not the ones I talk about in the title link. After class ended, I followed her outside. She caught up with some guys and tried to talk to them. The guys seemed fairly nonchalant, or they were shy. The guys didn't make eye contact with her much, and they got into talking to each other until the girl butted in into the conversation. We reached a T intersection and the guys went one way and the girl went the other. I followed her of course. Felt like a creep a little bit. When she stepped outside of the building, she stopped and took her phone out. I immediately opened.

Me: Hey, I believe you were in the database class.
Her: Yeah! I am!
Me: Cool, what's your name?
Her: SexyWhiteChickName
Me: I'm fsc, nice to meet you.
Me: So yeah, I was wondering if you wanted to partner up with me for the projects, or collaborate, if you don't have anyone in mind.
Her: Oh! I'm not really sure yet because I'm actually considering working with my friends who are in the class. I have to wait until they get back to me.
Me: Alright, do you want to exchange numbers real quick? And keep me updated on what happens?
Her: Yeah! Sure!
So we exchanged numbers and small talked a little as my phone was hella slow in opening up the contacts list thing and sending the text. I should have pinged her the next day or something via text. She's partnering up with a friend who is also in another class with her. At least I tried. This is a FAR better outcome than me sitting at home without her number or name, thinking "Shouldadunnit"

Win scenario 2: Blonde in class
Yet another attractive blonde in the management class. I was originally seated with a friend when I saw her walking up the lecture hall steps. I'm sure she saw me checking her out, no eye contact though because I was looking at her body. She sat in the row behind me, to the left. I looked back twice in her direction to see if she was sitting with anyone and to check her out some more. Pretty sure she saw me looking both times. I only use the 10-scale to describe the girl to others, and I'll say she has an 8 face with a 9 body. I got up and walked up to her.

Me: Hey, are you saving this seat for anyone?
Her: No, I'm not.
Me: Do you mind me sitting here?
Her: Haha, nope

So I got my stuff and moved next to her. Made some small talk. I definitely could have and should have related with her when she said she has bad grades. I also should have complimented her and just been more sexual in general. It was just a lot of fairly boring banter. I made sure to maintain eye contact with her though. I got her number, but I don't feel like I've made a good enough connection with her for her to want to partner up with me. We couldn't really talk much because the class started, and she left in middle of the class to catch our school's basketball game. I texted her "Hey, how did game night go for you?" about 5 hours ago (the game was yesterday). I'll persist or not based on her response, if she ever sends one. There are two other girls in the class I'm interested in pursuing, so yeah. Regardless of how this one turns out, at least I tried. Sitting here wondering what her response would be is far better than being disappointed at myself for not trying.
 
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