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Should I drop out of my masters degree?

Virgin101

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Just to give the back story, after finishing my undergrad microbiology degree and scraping a 2:1 (between 60-70%), I decided commit to job searching, instead of almost predictable option of going for the one year biotech masters degree. I wanted to get out into the real world, and having previously done an internship I thought I'd the edge over the other students in my course. I thought that if need be, I could do a masters some time later in life, after having gotten a better sense for what I'm interested in. Having made this decision though, a very small part of me knew that there was a chance things mightn't work out, and if so, that I might have to go back and do a masters a year later anyway.

During this year I managed to become a manager in a pound store where I worked for a year, all the while applying for lab jobs. After a year, and no luck from a total of 5 interviews, I decided to bite my lip and do a biotech masters. The reason for the popularity of this masters being its final semester's 30 credit research project, which most students secure in industry.

So by the time I'd started this masters, I'd already unsuccessfully applied for more than 150 laboratory positions. This made it hard to continue applying for positions (albeit college internship programs now), and to somehow expect a different result. Eventually this April, after a phone interview, I was told that I'd successfully secured an unpaid industry research project. I finally had a huge amount of motivation for the first time in years, and I was looking forward to starting there, intending to work my ass off. I visited the company a few weeks later in early May, and shortly later relocated to a new apartment in order to be nearer for travelling purposes.

Then came the bad news just this Thursday, that this company has changed their mind and no longer want to hire me, leaving me in a very awkward location, if I'm to be instead commuting to the college. I've tried to ring the company but I think they're giving me the run around. To make matters worse, is that because it took 5 weeks for me to hear about their change of mind, this meant that during that time the research projects left in college were all taken! One lecturer is now trying to develop a project for me.

And if all that wasn't bad enough, I won't be graduating until next year due to 5 credits that I'm missing. This issue wouldn't have mattered if I'd secured the placement, as I'd get the industrial experience, which is what matters. After hearing this, my motivation for college work is now lower than it's ever been... so I just wonder if I'm fooling myself thinking that I can complete this next 3 months. I know you might say I've come this far, but maybe it's time to call a day to all this college caper. Without the industrial experience I'm back to square one anyway. This will really make me feel as if I'm completely at the mercy of third level institutions, who take my money and dangle the carrot out in front of of me, just to draw it back.

I feel like I've spent the last 2 years of my life pointlessly jumping through hoops. It's scary the amount of knowledge I could have learned, with the time I've spent tailoring cover letters to job specs. I think in the MSc career guidance module, they could have been more honest with students, in saying "X amount of students each year fail to secure projects outside college", instead of the 'cheer leading' nonsense they spouted at students. All the while I did have a sense of doubt about securing a project in industry, but even I, would never have thought things would get this bad. And if I were to put my current situation in the context of what my hopes were 2 years ago, I'd be fuming.

Obviously I'd be quick to point out 101 reasons why to drop out, and have little to say as regards what I could now do with myself! It would feel good to just work an ordinary job for a while, but where could I go with it? This college course is killing my spirit. At least I have my undergrad degree? What sort of jobs are there out there that someone like myself could take up? However, there'll be a gap in my CV if I don't complete the masters. So this might mean that any hopes for ever working as a microbiologist might be crushed.

Although I've an interest in molecular science, I've always sensed that if I were to be really feel like I've value and motivation in my work, that it wouldn't have anything to do with lab work. At the back of my mind, I thought I could use some sort of lab job as a stepping stone to independence, and that years down the line I'd somehow use my wisdom and carefully saved money to go a different road.

Thanks for reading.
 

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The Life Sciences are oversaturated with PhD's and it's depressed wages and job prospects all over. Salaries are nothing.

I almost finished a Bachelor's in Bio with a Pre-Med emphasis, but my last quarter I realized I didn't want to go into Medicine or Biotech or anything else. I changed schools and switched to a B.A. Computer Science program, much happier with it.
 

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This strikes close to home so I'll try to offer some perspective. It's certainly a tough decision that no one can make for you . But I will try to give you some pointers that will help weigh the decision. My experience comes from being close to graduating from a life science PhD and having gone through all the usual academic bullshit.

First off, if you are at all into self-improvement and aspiring for more, you are going to hit a deadend very soon working in life sciences. Even though working in a lab is unlike most jobs in the sense that it's quite fun and varied, it's also a minimum 40-hour per week, boss breathing down your neck deal, which most people who strive to be better despise.

The job prospects in the field are shit. Universities are pumping out more graduates than ever and the market is beyond saturated at every level, from Bsc to tenure-track positions. Having said that, anything is possible, and if you apply smart, consistent action towards finding a job or even lab placement, you can definitely rise above the competition and get one. The question is, is this what you really want?

I am not one to tell you to get an Msc just as a backup option. As the great MJ Demarco said in "Unscripted", a degree as a safety net is about as thick as the paper it was printed on . The market cares about real world, problem solving skills and not the skills in the isolated bubble of life science research.

To not rant too much:
- If your degree is going to cost you extra money to complete, there is a good case to drop it. If it's only a time investment, you can argue that it's worth finishing just to build character strength by completing what you start. Not the strongest argument for sure.
- If you love science and you want to stay in it no matter what, the option is pretty straightforward. Accept it for what it is and keep going.
- If you care about money and want a good paying job, at least in a short timeframe, this is the wrong field.
- If as you say in the end this will be just a stepping stone, my view is that the MSc will bring you no closer to a job without specific experience. Instead this time could be invested to pimping your application skills, networking with the appropriate people or getting a short term practice position.

More importantly, know that no matter what you choose, you are going to be OK, you are in full control of the direction of your life.
 

Virgin101

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journeyman said:
To not rant too much:
- If your degree is going to cost you extra money to complete, there is a good case to drop it. If it's only a time investment, you can argue that it's worth finishing just to build character strength by completing what you start. Not the strongest argument for sure.
- If you love science and you want to stay in it no matter what, the option is pretty straightforward. Accept it for what it is and keep going.
- If you care about money and want a good paying job, at least in a short timeframe, this is the wrong field.
- If as you say in the end this will be just a stepping stone, my view is that the MSc will bring you no closer to a job without specific experience. Instead this time could be invested to pimping your application skills, networking with the appropriate people or getting a short term practice position.

More importantly, know that no matter what you choose, you are going to be OK, you are in full control of the direction of your life.
Thanks Journeyman,

I think I'm going to do the bloody thing. Especially considering (said with embarrassment) my Dad's paying for it. If he weren't around, I feel I'd somehow have the courage to "burn the boats" so to speak. But given that I've already had a year out with no luck, it might be better to complete it. The only area of interest to me that overlaps with the course is wastewater treatment, so that might be an area that I'll pursue.

Also, I couldn't help but send a letter to the company to ask them to reconsider... because it is almost as if the whole thing was just a prank or something. I've learned a thing or two from it, and how perhaps I could have even seen it coming.

I'm going to formulate a plan for what I'll do when the 3 mths are up, and have a big sheet of paper on my bedroom wall to help me prioritise. I'll work on how to spin interview questions, what jobs I might like outside the field, what I could hope to get within the field, etc. At least the new place I'm in has good logistics for bringing girls back.

Maybe I'll even write a book called "How College Got the Better of Me"
 
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