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Mysterio

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Hello everybody.
A happy new year to all to start.
Please be kind with my syntax. I’m a French native speaker so English is not my main language.

I have known a girl for almost a year and a half. She belongs to my group of friends but we have never been very close until recently. Simple formalities in general. No deep discussions. Everyone has their own life without being too interested in each other. An evening companion without more.

In the meantime, in this group of friends, I got into a relationship with a girl. The two were just friends who liked each other. Nothing more.

After the breakup with the other girl:

Gradually, and I don't know how to be honest, we started talking to each other more, we created a check that we do every time we see each other. When we meet in a club we laugh together, I even hold her by the lower back without reluctance. But without going any further.

From these changes, I began to ask myself questions but without calculating it too much.

A few days ago a friend that we have in common and with whom I spoke on the phone asked me if X was my style. I replied that there is nothing between us but that if eventually she manages to hold my attention other than by her appearance and that a complicity settles between us, it would not be impossible. But that in any case, I will not force anything with her.

Yesterday. This same friend invites me to dinner at her house with her friends (including the girl in question)

They were 3 girls that I will name X,Y,Z
-1 with her boyfriend (Z)
-my friend who had a date the same evening (Y)
-the girl in question alone (X)

As soon as I arrived. X came to greet me. She wore mini pajama shorts that half uncovered her butt. We laughed a little then she went to make up in the toilets for 45 minutes.

We start talking with friends about various and varied subjects. Nothing very special so far. Y talks about her crushes, asks for advice. In general, I try not to react too much to this kind of discussion so as not to reveal myself.

At one point. I speak with X and Y comes and begins to tell us respectively “you go well together bla-bla-bla”. I ignored and continued my discussion with the girl.

Shortly after, X asks me what I think of her personality. If she had a repulsive character for a guy to want to pair up with her.
I answer her sincerely that at first I found her haughty but that she was a person we appreciated as we got to know her.

After dinner :

With Z, her boyfriend and X, we start talking about our styles of guys/girls. At that moment, everyone spoke except me because there was a cut in which Z and her boyfriend were going out. Given the time, I got up and said I was leaving too.

Small visit to the bathroom, in the meantime I find myself alone with the girl who tells me that it really made her happy that we talk to each other and that we get to know each other and that it is sad that I move so early. We chatted for 2 minutes and when we got out Z came back alone. She asks me if I'm leaving already and X says yes, but by the way, you didn't tell us what your type of girl was.

I sat down again :D.

I noticed that each time I gave a characteristic she asked me for validation in relation to it. Ex: hair, do you prefer short or long, butt, chest etc…… she showed me pictures of her before and after, her colorings. And always asked my opinion whether it was to help her put music for his New Year's Insta story or something else.

We continued to talk a bit. Then really tired, I get up and decide to go for good. This is where Z who had only been a spectator for a while told me.
That's it, you're leaving too, my boyfriend left me and you're going to leave X.
At this moment, the two looked at each other with wide eyes. I laughed and left.

General behavior of X during the evening: generally open to discussion, follow-up, good audience, sometimes a little erased on her phone.

Also I don’t really know if that really matters but sometimes she use some words like “bro, dude” but it looks like a habit in her way of talking with everyone.

The reason I’m not sure if this is interest or only a friendly behaviour is because we know each other for long time. And before, I’ve never noticed any signs of interest from her, also she’s been picking boys in front of me many times.


Edit : Yesterday, Y invited me again to come home with them to work.
She told me that she will work alone and I will work with X.
I didn’t go
 
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Derek da man

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Sounds to me like you're not comfortable admiring to others that you like X. From you're writing it appears that every time they give you pointers that she likes you that you just brush them off.

It appears your friends are trying to give you a bit of support in getting together with her; in reality it feels like they are pushing you into doing something that you're not ready for - I've been in similar position too with friends pushing me along and your immediate response is to resist.

I have known a girl for almost a year and a half. She belongs to my group of friends but we have never been very close until recently. Simple formalities in general. No deep discussions. Everyone has their own life without being too interested in each other.
This is just normal social circle, she probably found you attractive but couldn't find a way to get you to notice her or start a conversation that was more than just superficial.

Gradually, and I don't know how to be honest, we started talking to each other more, we created a check that we do every time we see each other. When we meet in a club we laugh together,
She found a way in to talk with you, and I mean talk beyond simple niceties and being polite.

I even hold her by the lower back without reluctance. But without going any further.
Human behavior is pre-programmed into all of us, nature was taking it's course. You need to learn to recognise the signs and then follow them up and escalate things, she will then respond so you know she likes it and you escalate further. Note: it's your job to "escalate" it's her role to accept or reject. If she rejects it may simply be that she isn't yet comfortable to proceed further, it's not a total rejection to "leave me alone" unless she walks away.

I answer her sincerely that at first I found her haughty but that she was a person we appreciated as we got to know her.
I'm thinking your French to English translation may be a bit off here. I think you mean she can be a bit "stand-off-ish" and wsn't very welcoming to you to start with but she warmed to you as you got to know each other.

She asks me if I'm leaving already and X says yes, but by the way, you didn't tell us what your type of girl was.

I sat down again :D.

I noticed that each time I gave a characteristic she asked me for validation in relation to it. Ex: hair, do you prefer short or long, butt, chest etc…… she showed me pictures of her before and after, her colorings. And always asked my opinion whether it was to help her put music for his New Year's Insta story or something else.
She clearly wants your company. She asks your opinion and then challenges that opinion, which is a "test" to see if you'll stand up to her, and when you do, that will increase attraction more. It's not about you having a shared opinion or agreeing with her, which is a mistake I use to make, it's about you being a stong man that has an opinion and will stick with it. Being "agreeable" will be seen as weak and unattractive.


It sounds to me like you need a friendly "kick up the backside" . . . so here it is:

Decide if you like her enough to want to spend time with her. Based on your writing I think this is the case, but YOU need to decide that for yourself. Then you need to sort out a date with her - just the 2 of you doing something you will both enjoy - a coffee or a walk, keep it simple but it has to have no other intent than spending time together enjoying each others company, so not a project you are working on.

If you don't like her enough to want to spend time with her tell you friends that so they will stop pushing you and also they will probably tell her that too and you can all move on.

When I was younger I had trouble admitting to myself, and even more so to other people, that I liked someone. I was scared that other people might see through me and realise I fancied her and that I wanted sex with her and that drove me to hide my feelings, particularly how much pleasure I got just from being in someone's company. It sounds like you may be in a similar place.

You clearly like her otherwise you wouldn't care enough to be asking the question on this forum, and she obviously likes you as her friends are trying to help you being too slow in asking for a date, which is causing your resistance to your friends and consequently you asking here.

My advice - ask her on a date, enjoy her company, just the 2 of you! You need to make you move soon, girls get fed up waiting very quickly as they have lots of opportunities and she'll get asked out by someone else and that's your chance gone. If she doesn't like you she'll decliene the invitation but she will NOT resent you for asking as she will see it as a compliment. You have nothing to loose by asking her and a whole to to gain from making the invitation.

So yes - you should definitely go!
 

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Hello Darek,

Thank you for taking the time to give a detailed feed back.

You clearly pointed true facts.
Only one thing remains.
The fact that she is a friend on my ex girlfriend.
You know, girls talks a lot and information flys quickly.
 

Derek da man

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and that's a problem because . . . ?

Did you cheat or treat your last girlfriend badly? If not there's no problem.

Is your previous girlfriend trying to be vindictive? Let her make herself look bad and keep yourself stoic (firm and solid without reactions). If this was the case then X would not be making herself available so again no problem.

Get out there and ask her !

Let us know how it goes.
 

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Of course no. I have always be respectful.

I’ll make the move then !

Btw, is this a handicap if we actually don’t have any real conversation by messages ?
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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Btw, is this a handicap if we actually don’t have any real conversation by messages ?
Quite the opposite, by not keep messaging you don't appear to be "needy" which is unattractive. Nothing wrong with messages to sort out logistics or arrange meets but personally I keep messaging to a minimum.

Don't get me wrong there is a place for "Good morning beautiful" texts and the like but you're not in that position at the moment.
 
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Hi,

Thank you for your answers.

Here is how the situation evolved.

As expected, we saw each other yesterday to "work" together her, me and her friend since they live together. Well, we spent more time laughing than anything else.

And how to say!

His behavior is really hard to interpret.

On the one hand, she's super comfortable, really, she talks and acts without filters, limit you have the impression she's talking with her friend (she doesn't mind being a little vulgar or saying things like " bro "). The girl is like an electric battery, hyperactive, she jumps everywhere, she's like a child.

On the other hand, sometimes you feel her playing, she doesn't mind that I am tactile (more than once I left my hand on her leg or I took her hands etc…) . She act a little bit dumb, she has fun playing with my things, she laughs when I tease her, she wants attention. She looks me in the eye with the look of a child playing marbles (mischievous look). She smiles a lot.

Also at one point, we were talking all 3 and what she said, she is generally more calm when she is in the presence of someone she likes.
I know that you shouldn't always take a girl's words literally.

For my part. I too am very natural. Sometimes I'm vulgar, sometimes I flirt, sometimes I openly tease her. In short, I don't think too much about what I'm doing, I try to have a good time.

2 feelings in conclusion:
-either she is super comfortable because I am in the FZ
- or she is super comfortable and she lets her behavior take over even if she is open.
 

Derek da man

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Pleased you had a good time - but you didn't ask her for a date? You and her - on your own - as a couple - doing something that isn't a project or the like - something that is just for the 2 of you having fun?

If you don't ask, she will see it as a sign that "you're not interested" and she will move on.
 

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Actually, this is not possible to schedule a date. We are in exam period and clearly overbooked to hang out. I project to do that after when we'll have the time.
 
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