Skilledseducers what simple thing changed your seduction game?
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For, me.
This is it. From reactions, responses, getting girls, friends, when I write anything from "here".
We all have this.
You can feel this when you 'game'.
Sometimes, you feel that 'gaming' is wrong.
Now...
It's not that 'game' is wrong.
It's not that Girlschase is evil.
It is just that you are arriving from a place of chasing. This post, this knowledge here, gets very obvious when you combat other high level guys in the same room.
Especially if they are very good/perceive to be good by the female, Because the guy who is trying to compete, will lose.
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A List
1. Logistics
2. Logistics
3. Logistics
4. Logistics
5. Logistics
6. Logistics
7. Logistics
8. Logistics
9. Logistics
10. AA drills, program, system
11. (Bonus at the bottom)
Logistic Can Get You The Bitch Or Make You One
Do You Even Approach Brah
Please Do This Or Prepare For A VERY FUN Learning Curve
TL;DR
1. Logistics are your friend until they're not. Know yours like the back of your hand and be prepared for wildcards and or faster/slower developments in the courtship than expected. Learn from it. Approach anyway though if you have AA, low momentum, and or she's hot af.
2. At the top it's an assertion of fundamentals and basics. If you don't have this then you won't fight for it. Because it'll be too hard for you to start sub optimally. All levels of fundamentals and social ability are workable and possible, but ask yourself is it probable? More importantly is it consistent? ROI of the life of a man below average vs average vs above average vs good vs great vs maxed out? Make your choice.
3. AA is deeper than getting a lay. This is your life. Take it seriously. Gradually get to a place where you can approach the majority of the girls you'd like to and then ontop of that improve your interactions and DON'T EJECT without atleast grabbing contact and soft closing if you have the chance.
1. Logistics
2. Logistics
3. Logistics
4. Logistics
5. Logistics
6. Logistics
7. Logistics
8. Logistics
9. Logistics
10. AA drills, program, system
11. (Bonus at the bottom)
Logistic Can Get You The Bitch Or Make You One
1-9. Learn Logistics and be mindful of this in your sets inside and out. Today I was debating a number close and right when the window opened it closed due to logistical negligence on my part. Shame on me..
Pay attention to logistic sticking points and what your logistics and hers will mean for the interaction in your writing and others.
Trust me having a magical once in a life time connection with horrible logistics will suck...need I say more haha.
Then on the other side of the coin maybe when your just going through the motions with a girl who your not all that into and or she's not that into you with wonderful logistics and gaming nonetheless...and boom you're further than you thought. Maybe even fucking.
On the other side there are advanced guys and intermediate guys who are like logistic Houdini's, beginners who get lucky etc. So don't get discouraged. Be aware and practical about how to move things forward if you so choose.
Pay attention to logistic sticking points and what your logistics and hers will mean for the interaction in your writing and others.
Trust me having a magical once in a life time connection with horrible logistics will suck...need I say more haha.
Then on the other side of the coin maybe when your just going through the motions with a girl who your not all that into and or she's not that into you with wonderful logistics and gaming nonetheless...and boom you're further than you thought. Maybe even fucking.
On the other side there are advanced guys and intermediate guys who are like logistic Houdini's, beginners who get lucky etc. So don't get discouraged. Be aware and practical about how to move things forward if you so choose.
Do You Even Approach Brah
10. Regardless of any of this be sure to finish some sort of AA exercise, program, system, routine. If you don't approach your logistics won't mean shit and even if a woman approaches you I'm not confident you'd get anywhere if you aren't able to approach a fair number of the women you'd like to if not all. It's deeper than women. AA is insidious to life not just women.
Find a system, method, program, confront it as a principle before you even worry extensively about the quality of the approach and interaction.
Pays dividends down the line. I promise.
Plus you want to. You wouldn't feel that adrenaline shot if you didn't.
Find a system, method, program, confront it as a principle before you even worry extensively about the quality of the approach and interaction.
Pays dividends down the line. I promise.
Plus you want to. You wouldn't feel that adrenaline shot if you didn't.
Please Do This Or Prepare For A VERY FUN Learning Curve
11. Please have above average fundamentals that showcase lover frames. Saves time and mental energy. Otherwise you better have killer game or pray the asymmetric gods are raining fortune upon you. But for everyone's sake just take some time to tackle these.
Fundamentals aren't in a vaccum though. Find time to go out socially/game to showcase what you've developed.
I mean will anyone notice your fundamentals being down pat in a forest 24/7...maybe the trees.
"Work On Your Fundamentals" and stop socializing. Improve on both fronts.
It's tempting. Not even going to lie. Especially after L's you'll sometimes want to recluse and build yourself into an alpha chad then come back out. It won't happen though.
Don't cut out socializing and game completely though. Attack AA and tweak your approach based on feedback.
There is no stagnation until absolute 0. You either are improving or deteriorating.
Your choice.
Fundamentals aren't in a vaccum though. Find time to go out socially/game to showcase what you've developed.
I mean will anyone notice your fundamentals being down pat in a forest 24/7...maybe the trees.
"Work On Your Fundamentals" and stop socializing. Improve on both fronts.
It's tempting. Not even going to lie. Especially after L's you'll sometimes want to recluse and build yourself into an alpha chad then come back out. It won't happen though.
Don't cut out socializing and game completely though. Attack AA and tweak your approach based on feedback.
There is no stagnation until absolute 0. You either are improving or deteriorating.
Your choice.
TL;DR
1. Logistics are your friend until they're not. Know yours like the back of your hand and be prepared for wildcards and or faster/slower developments in the courtship than expected. Learn from it. Approach anyway though if you have AA, low momentum, and or she's hot af.
2. At the top it's an assertion of fundamentals and basics. If you don't have this then you won't fight for it. Because it'll be too hard for you to start sub optimally. All levels of fundamentals and social ability are workable and possible, but ask yourself is it probable? More importantly is it consistent? ROI of the life of a man below average vs average vs above average vs good vs great vs maxed out? Make your choice.
3. AA is deeper than getting a lay. This is your life. Take it seriously. Gradually get to a place where you can approach the majority of the girls you'd like to and then ontop of that improve your interactions and DON'T EJECT without atleast grabbing contact and soft closing if you have the chance.
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Great question, I guess the smallest thing that’s had the biggest effect would be closing out. I’ve always gotten good responses, but when things really started to get interesting is when I started pulling the trigger more liberally and unrestrained.
Learning about social pressure, deep diving, and most important of the three, lover frame. Has also gotten me a pretty nice return for not that much work. Especially lover frame, its kind of like the rubber band that brings everything else you learn together into one cohesive thing. “What would a lover do” was a really simple yet powerful mindset flip.
Learning about social pressure, deep diving, and most important of the three, lover frame. Has also gotten me a pretty nice return for not that much work. Especially lover frame, its kind of like the rubber band that brings everything else you learn together into one cohesive thing. “What would a lover do” was a really simple yet powerful mindset flip.
1. Vibe for sure. Being flirty, eye contact, sensual, sexual vibe. A wink here, a sexual innuendo there. Charismatic joke to top it off. Lots of touch, an ass grab with a cheeky smile or dominantly moving her around with a comforting smile.
2. Fundementals: Once I upgraded my fashion, stillness, movement, voice, etc (all in all which took maybe a month or two in total in the beginning and then years of refinement), it felt like my results changed overnight.
2. Fundementals: Once I upgraded my fashion, stillness, movement, voice, etc (all in all which took maybe a month or two in total in the beginning and then years of refinement), it felt like my results changed overnight.
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1. Sexual Prizing
2. The concept of texting pings & changing a girls mood instead of her mind
3. Relentlessly focusing on green light girls who’re into you straight away
2. The concept of texting pings & changing a girls mood instead of her mind
3. Relentlessly focusing on green light girls who’re into you straight away
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1. Fundamentals
2. Lover Frame
3. Screening for DTF girls
4. Logistics
Honestly believe that if most men focused on getting slightly above average in those 4 categories there will be a lot less whining and complaining on the internet
2. Lover Frame
3. Screening for DTF girls
4. Logistics
Honestly believe that if most men focused on getting slightly above average in those 4 categories there will be a lot less whining and complaining on the internet
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Second generation escalation - created in MASF, deepened intensely in Nextasf by a few of us. Tension and sexual tension is the epicenter of my game.
Lock-ins and moving around in sets - eg. makes or breaks if a set opens, and creates foundational relating to others.
How to actively manage captivation - one of the keys in my seduction style - one of Cozys keys he taught me. Cajun touches on this too.
When i connected the two first above i started pulling massively in bars and clubs to my own and pua-related friends astonishment. i took off as a seducer. The third one just took me to a whole other level.
None of this is simple. drop the magic bullet thinking. Do the work.
Lock-ins and moving around in sets - eg. makes or breaks if a set opens, and creates foundational relating to others.
How to actively manage captivation - one of the keys in my seduction style - one of Cozys keys he taught me. Cajun touches on this too.
When i connected the two first above i started pulling massively in bars and clubs to my own and pua-related friends astonishment. i took off as a seducer. The third one just took me to a whole other level.
None of this is simple. drop the magic bullet thinking. Do the work.
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Joining the boards.
I have been a natural my whole life but in the far past had faulty mental models. Then one day I got on the girlschase blog, it really kickstarted things for me.. then somewhere around 2018 I think I joined the boards.. I mean how can you replace daily exposure to a community like this?
The content by Chase which is usually extremely well written and quite verbose always appealed to my need for understanding things on a deeper level instead of "be an alpha male!!"
And ofcourse then we had content by Alek which provided very cool framework on how to persist and calibrate. His hooking and calibration series are must reads in my book.
I have been a natural my whole life but in the far past had faulty mental models. Then one day I got on the girlschase blog, it really kickstarted things for me.. then somewhere around 2018 I think I joined the boards.. I mean how can you replace daily exposure to a community like this?
The content by Chase which is usually extremely well written and quite verbose always appealed to my need for understanding things on a deeper level instead of "be an alpha male!!"
And ofcourse then we had content by Alek which provided very cool framework on how to persist and calibrate. His hooking and calibration series are must reads in my book.
Interesting, i can't find anything about next generation escalation on the internet, can you tell me more about that?
Captivation is something i'd like to improve, any tips?
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My answer is going to be a little different lol
But for me, allowing myself to be the dirty, filthy beast that I'd always wanted to be in the bedroom. Did wonders for my confidence and when I started testing the waters (which, to be honest, was still pretty vanilla) I became a lot calmer around women.
Like, the first few women I had sex with I was afraid to grab their tits during sex. It wasn't until I felt immense regret for not having played with a giant set from a crazy chick that I'd never see again that I finally manned up about it. Although she also taught me the fun value of having women say dirty things in the bedroom which did even more wonders for me, personally.
Eventually that led to having women scream out loud how they were my personal little slut, very into that. It only goes deeper from there lol
But yeah, as long as you baby step women into it, they're kinda freaky
But for me, allowing myself to be the dirty, filthy beast that I'd always wanted to be in the bedroom. Did wonders for my confidence and when I started testing the waters (which, to be honest, was still pretty vanilla) I became a lot calmer around women.
Like, the first few women I had sex with I was afraid to grab their tits during sex. It wasn't until I felt immense regret for not having played with a giant set from a crazy chick that I'd never see again that I finally manned up about it. Although she also taught me the fun value of having women say dirty things in the bedroom which did even more wonders for me, personally.
Eventually that led to having women scream out loud how they were my personal little slut, very into that. It only goes deeper from there lol
But yeah, as long as you baby step women into it, they're kinda freaky
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Here, second generation verbals:
What works and what does not work in seduction now a days In clubs - Featuring Cosy (the cost of success) - The Skills Method
I went through a debauchery period that ended by CHOICE, last week (I got tired of meaningless sex and I met a girl that has tons of potential to be … Continue Reading →
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Allowing myself to be sexually dominant and speaking freely about sex.
I have a very calm and collected personality, but I do also have a ton of sexual energy.
Once I tapped into that raw dominance and directed it almost exclusively to sex and sex talk, chicks got lots of my dick for sure.
It also allowed them to be more liberated and free around me, which is a plus.
I have a very calm and collected personality, but I do also have a ton of sexual energy.
Once I tapped into that raw dominance and directed it almost exclusively to sex and sex talk, chicks got lots of my dick for sure.
It also allowed them to be more liberated and free around me, which is a plus.
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Fun to see this old post from CozyHere, second generation verbals:
What works and what does not work in seduction now a days In clubs - Featuring Cosy (the cost of success) - The Skills Method
I went through a debauchery period that ended by CHOICE, last week (I got tired of meaningless sex and I met a girl that has tons of potential to be … Continue Reading →www.theskillsmethod.com
