Sleep w/ Roommate?

[Leopold]

I just moved in with an adorable Norwegian girl and her cat, and though at first I told myself it would be for the best if we didn't sleep together and I just focused on pick up completely, she is always wearing short skirts and... well, you know how it is. I work from home, so she can be a bit distracting. Maybe I want my cake and also to eat it, but I can't help but be attracted to her. I am a man, she is a sweet young lady... it would be practically criminal if we were to not become sexually close.

My plan right now is to find another cute girl in town, sleep with her a few times, then set up a threesome, and then from there translate that into something one-on-one with my new roommate (in this case I could just come out and ask her -- no risk, as she'd be intrigued and flattered by such a invitation). I moved in one week ago, and I think I have a reasonable chance of finding a girl interested in a threesome sooner or later, if I keep at it. Only problem is -- attraction expires. My intuition tells me I am already at the verge of needing to make a move here (we've had two sit down chats now; one more and I think that door would be pretty much closed). If I made a move I'd say I have pretty decent odds, especially if I can get her horny first. She's liberal and submissive, and extremely accommodating. I don't want things to go platonic, that's for sure, but I can't think of any other good ways to escalate to sex with my her. I can't go half way, so I'm trying to figure out a solid plan to making this happen, besides the threesome, as that will take a bit of time (though it's a good back-up plan). I almost just came out and asked her if she wanted to have sex while she was laying on the couch tonight with her panties exposed and her white bare legs as we chatted (fyi there were two streams of thoughts going through my mind -- one was saying grab her and ravish her, the other was nodding along politely engaged in whatever much less interesting subject we were talking about). I restrained myself, luckily (or not). That's probably not the right path. (nor is the grab her and ravish her. 21st century you crazy... but I digress). I desire passion, so need to inspire it in her by being myself passionate (without myself becoming attached. This is mostly risky because if she rejects me the power structure of the house would go very much in her favor).

So I'm opening this up to the forum: can you think of any tactics to get her horny or transition to sex with her, or do you think it would be more prudent for me to practice restraint and distance myself until I am ready to pull the trigger with my threesome plan? One thing I'm thinking (worked in high-school at least) is to complain about being sore and ask her if she'll give me a massage, then gauge my next steps from those actions. She is sexually attracted to me, but she also has other guys in her life, so the path of least resistance for her right now is to not sleep with me. How can I make it so the path of least resistance is unquestionably sex?

Thanks for your help in advance!

-Leo

 

[Marty]

Leo,

while she was laying on the couch tonight with her panties exposed and her white bare legs as we chatted

Are you kidding?

Get moving and follow the standard escalation advice contained on this site (NOT the overly aggressive course of action that was, understandably, going through your mind). Based on what you wrote above, she is gonna get pretty pissed with you if you don't make a move soon.

There is no chance that this was accidental. Women (particularly attractive ones) are extremely conscious of what they or do not display to a man. She's provoking you intentionally and needs to see how you handle it.

Keep it simple. Drop the complex threesome idea and get going. Now.

-Marty

 

[Leopold]

Keep it simple. Drop the complex threesome idea and get going. Now.

EGADS, Marty! You're right. She's been giving me tons of invitations, I've just been blind to them cuz I didn't want to see them, as I was on the fence about fucking my roommate or not. That settles it though: tonight I'll invite her to watch a movie in my room and escalate there. If that doesn't work my contingency plan is to wait a day to let the invite settle, then pull a Don Draper and just come in from being out and walk towards her slowly then put my hands on her waist and escalate from there (if she responds not unfavorably of course). So far every time I touch her she leaps out of her skin and tries to touch me back, so I think this would drive her crazy, if she hasn't already auto-rejected me that is...

Thanks, it was a close one. I only hope it's not too late.

-Leo

P.S. It's possible she has a bf, but so far she hasn't told me this explicitly so I think I'm still good. I'll report in tomorrow my success !

 

[Marty]

My approach with the "panty" situation would have been to say: "Come sit by me," adding with a wink, "The view from here is perfect."

Assuming she came back with some smartass riposte like "Will it still be perfect if I move?" then you're SO in there, it's not even funny.

If you can command her to comply for the first move, rather than grabbing her outright and showing all your cards, it's probably to your advantage.

 

[Leopold]

If you can command her to comply for the first move, rather than grabbing her outright and showing all your cards, it's probably to your advantage.

Very true. Perhaps a better contingency plan would be to be sitting and reading on the couch, talk with her a bit, then tell her to come sit with me, like you suggested. My intuition tells me that the moment she complies like that, the seduction would be pretty much game-match-set. Great stuff, thanks!

 

[Mr.Rob]

The only reason I wouldn't fuck her is because things will go south eventually and if you don't handle expectations and whatnot right (or she's jealous type) then when you start bringing other girls over she might start causing drama... though I've personally heard stories, but because I lack experience I'd probably fuck her and deal with the consequences later just for reference experience.

Though other than not causing drama you have no reason not to make a move.

Just a thought.

-Rob

 

[Leopold]

The only reason I wouldn't fuck her is because things will go south eventually and if you don't handle expectations and whatnot right (or she's jealous type) then when you start bringing other girls over she might start causing drama... though I've personally heard stories, but because I lack experience I'd probably fuck her and deal with the consequences later just for reference experience.

Though other than not causing drama you have no reason not to make a move.

Just a thought.

-Rob

Yeah, that's why I was on the fence to begin with. Potential drama. If I fail after trying here the power structure of the house is much more in her favor than if I just remain distanced and aloof. I'm going to go for it anyway, as the worst thing that would happen is that I'd have to move at the end of the month, which I'm totally fine with, as the location could be more central. I think Marty's tactic of not showing all my cards right away is the best option here. Thinking back to last night, I realize now that she was practically begging me to take her, the way she was stretching out on the couch and looking at me. So I think it should work, unless she has someone over or another wrench gets thrown in the gears like I fail to escalate because of room logistics or something stupid like that.

 

[Leopold]

Hmm, her bf-type guy is over now. Hopefully he doesn't stay or my plan is finished before it begins, at least for tonight. Oh well, more time for work then! Just need to be careful not to fall into the delusion of scarcity mentality with this. If that were to happen, my ship'd be sunk.

 

[Leopold]

Just as an update (might as well be consistent on this one -- I'm terrible with keeping up on this forum, though I recognize it as such an excellent tool for helping myself and others, so I'll try and keep this story updated as it develops over the next day or two):

Tonight is probably a no go. Her guy left, so I went ahead with the movie plan. It was on track, I was planted on the love seat where she'd have to come join me and lean into me to watch it (instant arm around shoulder, then a few minutes later a manhandle kiss, then calibrate to how shes responded). But then her bf-guy "demanded" they talk tonight. Before we watched the movie they were on the phone (she told me it was her "sick friend" -- they were speaking a language I don't understand so it was a convenient lie to use). She makes me tea and is folding some clothes while she's on the phone, and I'm reading an eBook on the couch. She goes away and shuts the door in her room for the end of the conversation, then comes out and tells me her "friend" demanded to come over. She said she was planning to speak with him tomorrow, but he demanded they meet up tonight. She apologizes and asks if it's okay if we watch it another night. I said "Sure, that's fine." Then I indirectly ask if she'd want me to step aside for this guy (I said something about should I leave the room then, and then said I don't mind getting out of their way) and she said I should stay. The subtext here seemed to be that she still wants to have sex with me, but she's just got to deal with this other relationship tonight (hopefully closing that book). He's not competition for me, he just was with her before someone better (me) came along. At least that's my read tonight. Time will tell whether I'm right or wrong though.

TTYL,
Leo

 

[Leopold]

Nothing yet, moving on. Looks like the threesome plan is my best bet at this stage. Shame...