Slowing down while keeping pace?

[Novacane]

If there is anything i've followed in regards to the PUA mentality it would have to be move fast, and keep an abundance mentality mind set. With that being said moving fast has in a way relatively halted my "game". What I mean by the previous statement is when I usually speak to someone I am interested in I screen for logistics, deep dive a bit and propose to meet up later, now the end I have in mind 99% of the time is to get a lay as quickly as possible, but I have becoming to realize that it sort of off puts woman, especially if I propose the first initial meet-up should be at her place (due to mine never being free). Now I know this post may be all over the place but I would like to ask should the first date transition into ending at her place, meaning go out get something to eat etc. and then end off with a lay or should I stretch out my interactions with woman and shift the dynamic so they view me as someone who they must chase, I really do value my time and this is why I usually game as quickly as possible but I'd like to know if I were to slow my game would I yield better results? Also if I were to shift the mentality from quickly getting a lay then onto the next one to giving this girl the best time of her life while employing the law of least effort making her want more would my success rates start to pick up again? Again I apologize if this post seems to be all over the place my main question in the most simplest terms would be how to employ fast game but at a pace that is not to fast, but not to slow that I end up wasting valuable time? Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Franco]

Novacane,

but I have becoming to realize that it sort of off puts woman, especially if I propose the first initial meet-up should be at her place (due to mine never being free).

This is an issue. The first initial meet-up should certainly be at a public location with the exception being girls you've met through social circle. Women you've cold approached are most likely not comfortable meeting directly in a private environment, and yes, it also gives them the wrong idea. A good idea would be to find out in what general region they live in and then suggest a meet-up close to there. That way you can transition to their place after the date if possible. If it is not possible, then escalating in a secluded public area after the date would be your next best bet (or possibly your best bet to begin with, depending on the circumstances).

I think changing your process here will up your success rate significantly.

- Franco

 

[Richard]

Nova,

Great questions you have here =P

Also if I were to shift the mentality from quickly getting a lay then onto the next one to giving this girl the best time of her life while employing the law of least effort making her want more would my success rates start to pick up again?

I'll start with this one though. In all honesty, it would be best to combine the two instead of switching from one to the other or visa versa. Having an abundance mentality means you know you can find beautiful women almost anywhere and shouldn't fret over a single one (that's part 1), and employing the law of least effort ensures that she's putting in more effort for you than you are for her, and in reality, she'd probably be putting more effort into you than she ever has in her life (that's part 2). Combine the two so you know you can find beautiful women, and know that they should be chasing you

but I'd like to know if I were to slow my game would I yield better results

Moving fast, means moving as fast as you can. So, if the girl is willing to move fast with you, keep moving fast, but some girls aren't willing to move incredibly fast or at a pace that you're setting. So, moving fast means speeding along as quick as you can without jeopardizing the potential lay, and if you're moving too quick, girls will give you hints at it.

I would like to ask should the first date transition into ending at her place

I loved doing this. It's best to go out on a first date like yogurt, coffee, something small, then set up a barrier like: "I'd love to keep the night going, but my place is never free!" and if she likes you and her place is free, she'll probably invite you over. That's the optimal way to end up at her place, and if she does invite you over, you know you'll be laying her!!!

-Richard

 

[Novacane]

loved doing this. It's best to go out on a first date like yogurt, coffee, something small, then set up a barrier like: "I'd love to keep the night going, but my place is never free!" and if she likes you and her place is free, she'll probably invite you over. That's the optimal way to end up at her place, and if she does invite you over, you know you'll be laying her!!!

Has to be the most ingenious way of transitioning to her place. Thank you for the insight Zphix, as for Franco I do understand now why it would be off putting to suggest meeting in private for the first date, my initial misconception with moving fast was I believed that the faster you got a lay the easier you would be to present yourself as a man different from the regulars who constantly approach a girl. Again thank you both for the quick reply!