4 December 2016: Saigon, Vietnam
I matched with 20 year old Thanh on VietnameseCupid. We arrange to meet at 8pm outside of my hostel. She came on her motorbike. She looked much more attractive in her photos, which showcased her with long hair and a good fashion sense. When she arrived, she was wearing shorts, a tshirt, and runners. Not the most flattering look. She'd also chopped off her lovely long hair, so she kinda looked like a boy with a pixie cut. She had a pretty face though. Her hair and fashion kinda let her down.
The meet:
I walked slowly out of the entrance and toward her bike. I said hello, but she didn't say much at all. Her spoken English was not very good. The introduction was pretty awkward, and we had to figure out what to do with her motorbike. I suggested parking it nearby, but I don't think she understood what I said. She instead drove us along the busy street looking for a place for drinks. She eventually parked her bike and we walked for a bit looking for a bar to grab drinks.
I ended up picking a bar, and grabbed a seat. The seating arrangement was perfect. The couch was comfortable and just big enough for two people. So we were forced to sit pretty close next to each other. The was some physical touch in this moment. I was pulling her arm and grabbing her hand to guide her through the chaotic traffic.
I was disappointed that Thanh wasn't as attractive compared to her pictures, I wasn't even sure that I wanted to game her. I also laid a new girl earlier that same day, so I wasn't at all fussed whether I got laid with her or not. I think my aloofness played a strong role in boosting her attraction for me.
I deep dived her about her pharmacy studies, her hobbies, and her life in Saigon. Thanh described herself as a feisty girl, which I thought was true. She had a bit of a prickly demeanor about her. At a couple of instances she mentioned my dating profile pictures and thought that I was 'strange' for having long hair. At one point she was playing with my hair and kinda flicking it around.
Thanh's spoken English was not good and it was difficult to communicate with her. It was not so much frustrating as it was amusing. I smiled at the situation to myself a couple of times, and I threw in some pregnant pauses as well.
One body positioning throughout the date was very natural. Because I wasn't really gaming her, I felt like the physical touch between us flowed very naturally. I had my arm resting on the back of the couch, slightly touching the back of her neck. She leaned into my arm quite frequently. The leaning and movements were subtle. At a couple of instances, I lightly touched her hand, just because it felt so natural to do so. It did not feel at all forced. It just felt weird not to touch her.
The conversation spanned about 45 minutes, and by the end of it, the touch had been utilised smoothly and subtly. Eventually, we were holding hands and she was leaning up against me. I didn't even have to pull her into me. My movements were very gentle. At one point she actually said that I was like a girl, because of how gently I touched her. Now that I mentioned it, I do get girls from time to time saying that the way I touch them is feminine because I'm soft and gentle. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The undertone of the vibe was teeming with sexual tension. At a couple of instances, I moved my face really close to hers as if I was almost about to kiss her. I just kept my face there, and threw on sexy eye contact. When I did this, she moved her face closer to mine and excitement lit up in her eyes, and she playfully moved her face back to diffuse the tension. I think it would've been extremely easy to kiss her at the bar, but I figured that I would not bother. No point kissing her since the date was unfolding out ideally at the point. At one instance, she said that she actually thought that I was really cute. I kissed her on the cheek wordlessly to reward her, and she said, "Thank you."
At one point I asked myself what I wanted to do. I wasn't terribly fussed about getting laid or not. But she had a pretty face despite her hair and clothes, so I would've fucked her in either case. I was thinking about taking a walk to the park so that I could escalate a little, and if I liked her enough, I would pull. But then I realised, no matter the outcome there was no need to add an extra step to the seduction. After sitting at the bar for 45 minutes or so, she was warm and ready to be pulled. At this point, the music was blaring, and I couldn't stand to be inside the bar any longer.
The pull:
"It's getting so loud in here. Let's go back to my hostel where it's a little quieter. It's got aircon so it'll be cooler there too. Okay?" I said. She agreed. I wanted to split the bill but she left her money in the motorbike so I ended up paying the bill. I was a bit annoyed about it, but whatever.
We walked toward the motorbike, hand in hand. Her hands were so damn sweaty. We weren't really saying much, because the street was so loud and full of people and chaos. We walked in comfortably silence. At one point she playfully pinched my bicep, and I pinched her thigh playfully in return. We had a good laugh. At one point she turned her head to bite my left deltoid. I thought it was pretty funny. I asked her why she did it, but she didn't know.
We eventually arrived at her motorbike and we went to find a place to park her bike near my hostel. It took about 10 minutes or so. The transition was handled well, and I pull-talked about random stuff to keep the conversation flowing. Moments before arriving at the hostel, I told her to take off her shoes at the entrance and leave it on the floor. When we arrived, the guests inside the hostel were just about ready to go out to a bar, so there were many people standing up, moving and making noise. This was a perfect moment to slip into my room unnoticed. There was no trouble with the receptionist.
We walked up the stairs to my room, and I told her to put her bag down and showed her where the bathroom was. I turned on the TV which was at a perfect viewing angle of a right angle to the bed. She ended up going to the bathroom and I hopped in bed. I told her that we were going to watch TV and told her to join me in bed. I told her to remove her socks because it was too hot. I killed the lights and spooned her while we watched Adventure Time on TV. I had my arm around her stomach, and our bare feet were touching each other which felt great.
The sex:
20 seconds into cuddling her, I told her to turn around to face me. She did and I landed a juicy kiss on her lips. We escalated into sex, and there was no resistance whatsoever. The whole seduction process was a very interdependent effort. All of our clothes came off within a minute or so. She had enormous boobs which were a pleasure to play with. She later told me she was a size 38.
I started by going to town by licking her pussy, and fucking her missionary and cowboy. I had a difficult time keeping it up since I had already ejaculated twice earlier that day. At one point, I told her I wanted her to stay the night with me. The condom had dried up, and I needed to pick up more condoms and lube.
I returned 15 minutes later from the store, and we fucked each other for a long time. It was a shame that I couldn't always keep it up. Thanh was an extremely passionate lover, and she absolutely loved fucking me. She looked so damn sexy with her unflattering clothes ripped off of her body. Her hair didn't matter so much now that we were fooling around in the dark.
I ended up giving her a sensual massage, and she gave me one too. I also received the first rim job of my whole entire life. It felt pretty damn good, haha. I was very vocal during sex, and said things like: "Do you like the way my cock feels inside your tight wet hole? I want to you to tell me how much you fucking love my cock. Tell me how fucking good I make you feel baby." She was also kinky as hell. She moaned things like: "Oh baby I love your dick. Oh I love the way your cock feels in my baby. I like you."
I ended up telling her to I wanted to cum inside her mouth, and she obliged. I brought her head down to my stomached, and I deposited my load all over her face and mouth. It was messy.
We went to sleep shortly after, but she had trouble falling asleep. She laid in bed for 2 hours, but couldn't drift off, so she decided to go home.
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Finishing thoughts:
Overall, I'm happy with this lay. I didn't feel like I was really gaming her because I wasn't really trying to make anything happen. I just decided to stick to the process and see what happened. The whole process seemed to unfold very naturally. I actually ended up having a wonderful time with her, and she was raunchy is hell in bed. My fundamentals throughout the date were good. I built up compliance well by telling her to do things. I especially liked how my physical escalation during the date seemed very smooth. There didn't seem to be any jarring moments during the escalation, and it just happened. Same deal with the escalation into sex after I pulled as well. I commanded her to join me in bed, and to face me, and it all happened very smoothly. It just felt right. I will aim to smooth out my seductions in the future. I think it'll be instrumental into overcoming LMR, and boosting comfort. Because I wasn't all that into Thanh initially because of her poor fashion choice and hair, I wasn't as touchy, and 'sweet' as I usually was. Instead my vibe was a little bit more bad boy, and aloof. Still I managed to balance my attainability well. It was just at the right level. I think because of her personality, if I was too sweet to her, her attraction would not have been as high. In my past dates, my attainability have been a bit on the high side as I'm very sweet, cute and freely dish out compliments. In a lot of cases, I think being sweet and cute is beneficial, as it balances out value I pump out through my vibe. But with girls who are not very coy and shy, I don't think it's necessary to be so sweet, warm and cute. There is some utility in holding back the reigns and maintaining the mystery.
Jeffrey
I matched with 20 year old Thanh on VietnameseCupid. We arrange to meet at 8pm outside of my hostel. She came on her motorbike. She looked much more attractive in her photos, which showcased her with long hair and a good fashion sense. When she arrived, she was wearing shorts, a tshirt, and runners. Not the most flattering look. She'd also chopped off her lovely long hair, so she kinda looked like a boy with a pixie cut. She had a pretty face though. Her hair and fashion kinda let her down.
The meet:
I walked slowly out of the entrance and toward her bike. I said hello, but she didn't say much at all. Her spoken English was not very good. The introduction was pretty awkward, and we had to figure out what to do with her motorbike. I suggested parking it nearby, but I don't think she understood what I said. She instead drove us along the busy street looking for a place for drinks. She eventually parked her bike and we walked for a bit looking for a bar to grab drinks.
I ended up picking a bar, and grabbed a seat. The seating arrangement was perfect. The couch was comfortable and just big enough for two people. So we were forced to sit pretty close next to each other. The was some physical touch in this moment. I was pulling her arm and grabbing her hand to guide her through the chaotic traffic.
I was disappointed that Thanh wasn't as attractive compared to her pictures, I wasn't even sure that I wanted to game her. I also laid a new girl earlier that same day, so I wasn't at all fussed whether I got laid with her or not. I think my aloofness played a strong role in boosting her attraction for me.
I deep dived her about her pharmacy studies, her hobbies, and her life in Saigon. Thanh described herself as a feisty girl, which I thought was true. She had a bit of a prickly demeanor about her. At a couple of instances she mentioned my dating profile pictures and thought that I was 'strange' for having long hair. At one point she was playing with my hair and kinda flicking it around.
Thanh's spoken English was not good and it was difficult to communicate with her. It was not so much frustrating as it was amusing. I smiled at the situation to myself a couple of times, and I threw in some pregnant pauses as well.
One body positioning throughout the date was very natural. Because I wasn't really gaming her, I felt like the physical touch between us flowed very naturally. I had my arm resting on the back of the couch, slightly touching the back of her neck. She leaned into my arm quite frequently. The leaning and movements were subtle. At a couple of instances, I lightly touched her hand, just because it felt so natural to do so. It did not feel at all forced. It just felt weird not to touch her.
The conversation spanned about 45 minutes, and by the end of it, the touch had been utilised smoothly and subtly. Eventually, we were holding hands and she was leaning up against me. I didn't even have to pull her into me. My movements were very gentle. At one point she actually said that I was like a girl, because of how gently I touched her. Now that I mentioned it, I do get girls from time to time saying that the way I touch them is feminine because I'm soft and gentle. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The undertone of the vibe was teeming with sexual tension. At a couple of instances, I moved my face really close to hers as if I was almost about to kiss her. I just kept my face there, and threw on sexy eye contact. When I did this, she moved her face closer to mine and excitement lit up in her eyes, and she playfully moved her face back to diffuse the tension. I think it would've been extremely easy to kiss her at the bar, but I figured that I would not bother. No point kissing her since the date was unfolding out ideally at the point. At one instance, she said that she actually thought that I was really cute. I kissed her on the cheek wordlessly to reward her, and she said, "Thank you."
At one point I asked myself what I wanted to do. I wasn't terribly fussed about getting laid or not. But she had a pretty face despite her hair and clothes, so I would've fucked her in either case. I was thinking about taking a walk to the park so that I could escalate a little, and if I liked her enough, I would pull. But then I realised, no matter the outcome there was no need to add an extra step to the seduction. After sitting at the bar for 45 minutes or so, she was warm and ready to be pulled. At this point, the music was blaring, and I couldn't stand to be inside the bar any longer.
The pull:
"It's getting so loud in here. Let's go back to my hostel where it's a little quieter. It's got aircon so it'll be cooler there too. Okay?" I said. She agreed. I wanted to split the bill but she left her money in the motorbike so I ended up paying the bill. I was a bit annoyed about it, but whatever.
We walked toward the motorbike, hand in hand. Her hands were so damn sweaty. We weren't really saying much, because the street was so loud and full of people and chaos. We walked in comfortably silence. At one point she playfully pinched my bicep, and I pinched her thigh playfully in return. We had a good laugh. At one point she turned her head to bite my left deltoid. I thought it was pretty funny. I asked her why she did it, but she didn't know.
We eventually arrived at her motorbike and we went to find a place to park her bike near my hostel. It took about 10 minutes or so. The transition was handled well, and I pull-talked about random stuff to keep the conversation flowing. Moments before arriving at the hostel, I told her to take off her shoes at the entrance and leave it on the floor. When we arrived, the guests inside the hostel were just about ready to go out to a bar, so there were many people standing up, moving and making noise. This was a perfect moment to slip into my room unnoticed. There was no trouble with the receptionist.
We walked up the stairs to my room, and I told her to put her bag down and showed her where the bathroom was. I turned on the TV which was at a perfect viewing angle of a right angle to the bed. She ended up going to the bathroom and I hopped in bed. I told her that we were going to watch TV and told her to join me in bed. I told her to remove her socks because it was too hot. I killed the lights and spooned her while we watched Adventure Time on TV. I had my arm around her stomach, and our bare feet were touching each other which felt great.
The sex:
20 seconds into cuddling her, I told her to turn around to face me. She did and I landed a juicy kiss on her lips. We escalated into sex, and there was no resistance whatsoever. The whole seduction process was a very interdependent effort. All of our clothes came off within a minute or so. She had enormous boobs which were a pleasure to play with. She later told me she was a size 38.
I started by going to town by licking her pussy, and fucking her missionary and cowboy. I had a difficult time keeping it up since I had already ejaculated twice earlier that day. At one point, I told her I wanted her to stay the night with me. The condom had dried up, and I needed to pick up more condoms and lube.
I returned 15 minutes later from the store, and we fucked each other for a long time. It was a shame that I couldn't always keep it up. Thanh was an extremely passionate lover, and she absolutely loved fucking me. She looked so damn sexy with her unflattering clothes ripped off of her body. Her hair didn't matter so much now that we were fooling around in the dark.
I ended up giving her a sensual massage, and she gave me one too. I also received the first rim job of my whole entire life. It felt pretty damn good, haha. I was very vocal during sex, and said things like: "Do you like the way my cock feels inside your tight wet hole? I want to you to tell me how much you fucking love my cock. Tell me how fucking good I make you feel baby." She was also kinky as hell. She moaned things like: "Oh baby I love your dick. Oh I love the way your cock feels in my baby. I like you."
I ended up telling her to I wanted to cum inside her mouth, and she obliged. I brought her head down to my stomached, and I deposited my load all over her face and mouth. It was messy.
We went to sleep shortly after, but she had trouble falling asleep. She laid in bed for 2 hours, but couldn't drift off, so she decided to go home.
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Finishing thoughts:
Overall, I'm happy with this lay. I didn't feel like I was really gaming her because I wasn't really trying to make anything happen. I just decided to stick to the process and see what happened. The whole process seemed to unfold very naturally. I actually ended up having a wonderful time with her, and she was raunchy is hell in bed. My fundamentals throughout the date were good. I built up compliance well by telling her to do things. I especially liked how my physical escalation during the date seemed very smooth. There didn't seem to be any jarring moments during the escalation, and it just happened. Same deal with the escalation into sex after I pulled as well. I commanded her to join me in bed, and to face me, and it all happened very smoothly. It just felt right. I will aim to smooth out my seductions in the future. I think it'll be instrumental into overcoming LMR, and boosting comfort. Because I wasn't all that into Thanh initially because of her poor fashion choice and hair, I wasn't as touchy, and 'sweet' as I usually was. Instead my vibe was a little bit more bad boy, and aloof. Still I managed to balance my attainability well. It was just at the right level. I think because of her personality, if I was too sweet to her, her attraction would not have been as high. In my past dates, my attainability have been a bit on the high side as I'm very sweet, cute and freely dish out compliments. In a lot of cases, I think being sweet and cute is beneficial, as it balances out value I pump out through my vibe. But with girls who are not very coy and shy, I don't think it's necessary to be so sweet, warm and cute. There is some utility in holding back the reigns and maintaining the mystery.
Jeffrey
