Hi. What's up everyone? I'm a newbie to the forums posting for the first time, though I have some exposure to Chase's articles. I was hoping you guys could give me some solid advice for an upcoming date I got. If anything I say comes across as kind of stupid or rambling, just keep in mind that I'm pretty new to the art of seduction and still figuring it all out.
Okay, now that we got that out of the way, here's the whole story. I met this blonde girl at one of my college's shuttle stops. You could probably fairly say she's a bombshell type, especially given that she's a bikini model, though I didn't know that at the time. We were standing together at the shuttle stop when I noticed she sat down on the bench. After a minute or two wanting to talk to her, yet not wanting to rudely interrupt her texting (kind of silly now that I think about it), and thinking this girl is probably out of my league, I gather my courage, sit next to her, and I initiate conversation. Damned if I'm not going to at least try! I don't really remember all the details of the conversation, but anyways I tell her about a good instructor I had, and she asks me who it is. I can't remember the instructors name, so I tell her that if she gives me a way to get in contact with her, I'll tell her who in the instructor is, once I recall it. She asks for my Facebook and sends me an invite. We get on the bus and ask each other about what class we're heading to, what our major is, etc.
One of the things that was so weird about this, is that she actually asked me personal questions. This doesn't seem to happen 99% of the time when I chat to girls. Not only that, she is opening up to me, revealing things about herself to me without my having to ask. Normally, girls just give me short nonelaborate responses that sometimes seem abrupt. I vaguely remember making the comment to her about something that went like, "Oh, that's smart.", perhaps in a mild subdued complimentary manner. Then, when I tell her what my major is, she says, "So, you're a smart guy?" Wow! Is she flirting with me? I tell her with a certain poised matter-of-fact tone, "I'm a 4.0 student." She reveals that she is a 4.0 student as well. I notice we seem to have a fair bit in common and seem to be developing a good rapport. During the conversation, I tell her I am going to a classical music course. She tells me that she loves classical music. My instructor for the course requires that we attend the concerts, and as such, gets us free tickets, including an extra to take anyone we want. I see an opportunity and say, "I have an extra ticket to a concert, but I don't know who to take. Maybe you'd like to come." She seems kind of excited and interested, asking when it is. As we part ways, I tell her I will message her later.
To be clear though, the concert is not the date I'm talking about. Anyways, I stay busy with classes the next day or two, before I finally message her. I ask her if next Friday works for the concert. She tells me she already has plans then. I ask if Saturday is any better, she explains that a friend is getting married and she might have a bachelorette party that night. She says she will let me know later if she can come Saturday night. I message her occasionally every now and again on Facebook, telling her what I'm up to and making conversation. Fast forward to yesterday night, we are talking about one of my clubs that she is really interested in joining.
She seems to be in a really great mood and eager to join the club! Not to let such a high note go to waste, I tell her we should get lunch, that I know a really great restaurant, and ask her what time would work for her. Mentioning that she is free on Wednesday, she tells me that she was actually at that particular restaurant yesterday. Thinking she might not want to go to that restaurant again, I mention another one. She says she was also at the other restaurant yesterday too, and goes on to say, "We seem to share the same taste in food!" I find it odd that she would just so happen to be at those two restaurants. I begin to half wonder if she is going out of her way to develop a rapport with me. Win-win either way I figure. We settle on the first restaurant. I ask her if she wants a ride or she can make it over, but she tells me that it is close to where she lives and she can just walk there. One last thing that was kind of weird; she asks me if I can help with her astronomy exam and that she will bring her flash cards. I decide to follow Chase's advice I saw in one of his articles, and make the counter offer that perhaps she could help me with a native studies exam. She says, "Sure! I need to take that class.
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So anyways, we've agreed on a lunch date for this fast approaching Wednesday. When she first met me, I was very casually dressed, wearing gym shorts and a t-shirt, not to mention I had some stubble. Do you think it would be a good idea to be more fashionable for this date, so others see she is with a well-dressed guy? Would it embarrass her to be with a guy who doesn't seem concerned how he is dressed on his date, or would it make her uncomfortable, like I'm trying hard, if I spiffy up? How should I be dressed? Also, I'd appreciate some conversation tips. If she is as outgoing as she was on the bus, general conversation probably won't be a huge problem. However, I would say conversation is definitely one of my weakest areas. I also know that if I want to make things serious, I will need to sexually escalate quickly. I could try some nonverbal flirtation in the restaurant, although, I'm guessing more direct sexual talk might make her uncomfortable in a restaurant, right? My main plan is to walk her back to her apartment, and once we get there, either I kiss her and smoothly lead her into her room, or if nothing else, I tell her an excuse like, "I'm thirsty. Could I come in and have a glass of water?", and work my way from there. If something comes up where I have to leave, hell, maybe I can even "drop" my keys, so I have a good reason to come back later. A backup plan for my plan you could say.
I seem to being getting some strong compliance signals from this girl. However, I really want to make sure this date goes off without a hitch. Before anyone says anything, yes, I realize she isn't the only great girl out there, yes, I know I should work from an abundance perspective and not a scarcity one, yes, I know she isn't some perfect goddess, and yes, if she doesn't bite, I will move on and work on perfecting my seduction skills with other women. However, the way I see it, if I can secure her as a long term partner, it will be good practice for me as a seducer, not to mention, having such a desirable woman as a girlfriend would be a strong boost to my male pride and value as a mate to other women (If she's his girlfriend, there must be something great about that guy!). She's probably the prettiest woman I've seen in a long time, so I'd rather not blow it if it can be helped. You don't see a Marilyn Monroe every day. Way I see it, worst case, she is simply curious. Best case, she really wants me, and hopes I'll claim her as a lover! Feel free to ask me any questions. I appreciate any advice.
Okay, now that we got that out of the way, here's the whole story. I met this blonde girl at one of my college's shuttle stops. You could probably fairly say she's a bombshell type, especially given that she's a bikini model, though I didn't know that at the time. We were standing together at the shuttle stop when I noticed she sat down on the bench. After a minute or two wanting to talk to her, yet not wanting to rudely interrupt her texting (kind of silly now that I think about it), and thinking this girl is probably out of my league, I gather my courage, sit next to her, and I initiate conversation. Damned if I'm not going to at least try! I don't really remember all the details of the conversation, but anyways I tell her about a good instructor I had, and she asks me who it is. I can't remember the instructors name, so I tell her that if she gives me a way to get in contact with her, I'll tell her who in the instructor is, once I recall it. She asks for my Facebook and sends me an invite. We get on the bus and ask each other about what class we're heading to, what our major is, etc.
One of the things that was so weird about this, is that she actually asked me personal questions. This doesn't seem to happen 99% of the time when I chat to girls. Not only that, she is opening up to me, revealing things about herself to me without my having to ask. Normally, girls just give me short nonelaborate responses that sometimes seem abrupt. I vaguely remember making the comment to her about something that went like, "Oh, that's smart.", perhaps in a mild subdued complimentary manner. Then, when I tell her what my major is, she says, "So, you're a smart guy?" Wow! Is she flirting with me? I tell her with a certain poised matter-of-fact tone, "I'm a 4.0 student." She reveals that she is a 4.0 student as well. I notice we seem to have a fair bit in common and seem to be developing a good rapport. During the conversation, I tell her I am going to a classical music course. She tells me that she loves classical music. My instructor for the course requires that we attend the concerts, and as such, gets us free tickets, including an extra to take anyone we want. I see an opportunity and say, "I have an extra ticket to a concert, but I don't know who to take. Maybe you'd like to come." She seems kind of excited and interested, asking when it is. As we part ways, I tell her I will message her later.
To be clear though, the concert is not the date I'm talking about. Anyways, I stay busy with classes the next day or two, before I finally message her. I ask her if next Friday works for the concert. She tells me she already has plans then. I ask if Saturday is any better, she explains that a friend is getting married and she might have a bachelorette party that night. She says she will let me know later if she can come Saturday night. I message her occasionally every now and again on Facebook, telling her what I'm up to and making conversation. Fast forward to yesterday night, we are talking about one of my clubs that she is really interested in joining.
She seems to be in a really great mood and eager to join the club! Not to let such a high note go to waste, I tell her we should get lunch, that I know a really great restaurant, and ask her what time would work for her. Mentioning that she is free on Wednesday, she tells me that she was actually at that particular restaurant yesterday. Thinking she might not want to go to that restaurant again, I mention another one. She says she was also at the other restaurant yesterday too, and goes on to say, "We seem to share the same taste in food!" I find it odd that she would just so happen to be at those two restaurants. I begin to half wonder if she is going out of her way to develop a rapport with me. Win-win either way I figure. We settle on the first restaurant. I ask her if she wants a ride or she can make it over, but she tells me that it is close to where she lives and she can just walk there. One last thing that was kind of weird; she asks me if I can help with her astronomy exam and that she will bring her flash cards. I decide to follow Chase's advice I saw in one of his articles, and make the counter offer that perhaps she could help me with a native studies exam. She says, "Sure! I need to take that class.
So anyways, we've agreed on a lunch date for this fast approaching Wednesday. When she first met me, I was very casually dressed, wearing gym shorts and a t-shirt, not to mention I had some stubble. Do you think it would be a good idea to be more fashionable for this date, so others see she is with a well-dressed guy? Would it embarrass her to be with a guy who doesn't seem concerned how he is dressed on his date, or would it make her uncomfortable, like I'm trying hard, if I spiffy up? How should I be dressed? Also, I'd appreciate some conversation tips. If she is as outgoing as she was on the bus, general conversation probably won't be a huge problem. However, I would say conversation is definitely one of my weakest areas. I also know that if I want to make things serious, I will need to sexually escalate quickly. I could try some nonverbal flirtation in the restaurant, although, I'm guessing more direct sexual talk might make her uncomfortable in a restaurant, right? My main plan is to walk her back to her apartment, and once we get there, either I kiss her and smoothly lead her into her room, or if nothing else, I tell her an excuse like, "I'm thirsty. Could I come in and have a glass of water?", and work my way from there. If something comes up where I have to leave, hell, maybe I can even "drop" my keys, so I have a good reason to come back later. A backup plan for my plan you could say.
I seem to being getting some strong compliance signals from this girl. However, I really want to make sure this date goes off without a hitch. Before anyone says anything, yes, I realize she isn't the only great girl out there, yes, I know I should work from an abundance perspective and not a scarcity one, yes, I know she isn't some perfect goddess, and yes, if she doesn't bite, I will move on and work on perfecting my seduction skills with other women. However, the way I see it, if I can secure her as a long term partner, it will be good practice for me as a seducer, not to mention, having such a desirable woman as a girlfriend would be a strong boost to my male pride and value as a mate to other women (If she's his girlfriend, there must be something great about that guy!). She's probably the prettiest woman I've seen in a long time, so I'd rather not blow it if it can be helped. You don't see a Marilyn Monroe every day. Way I see it, worst case, she is simply curious. Best case, she really wants me, and hopes I'll claim her as a lover! Feel free to ask me any questions. I appreciate any advice.